The Seven Feasts are all about Jesus.

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danschance

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The Seven Feast the God commanded the the Jews to observe, by law are important to Christins, as they show us about significant events and Christ has or will fulfill them all.

From: How did Jesus fulfill the meanings of the Jewish feasts?

The first four of the seven feasts occur during the springtime (Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Weeks), and they all have already been fulfilled by Christ in the New Testament. The final three holidays (Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, and Tabernacles) occur during the fall, all within a short fifteen-day period


1) Passover (Leviticus 23:5) – Pointed to the Messiah as our Passover lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7) whose blood would be shed for our sins. Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation for the Passover at the same hour that the lambs were being slaughtered for the Passover meal that evening.

2) Unleavened Bread (Leviticus 23:6) – Pointed to the Messiah's sinless life (as leaven is a picture of sin in the Bible), making Him the perfect sacrifice for our sins. Jesus' body was in the grave during the first days of this feast, like a kernel of wheat planted and waiting to burst forth as the bread of life.

3) First Fruits (Leviticus 23:10) – Pointed to the Messiah's resurrection as the first fruits of the righteous. Jesus was resurrected on this very day, which is one of the reasons that Paul refers to him in1 Corinthians 15:20as the "first fruits from the dead."

4) Weeks or Pentecost (Leviticus 23:16) – Occurred fifty days after the beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and pointed to the great harvest of souls and the gift of the Holy Spirit for both Jew and Gentile, who would be brought into the kingdom of God during the Church Age (seeActs 2). The Church was actually established on this day when God poured out His Holy Spirit and 3,000 Jews responded to Peter's great sermon and his first proclamation of the gospel.

5) Trumpets (Leviticus 23:24) – The first of the fall feasts. Many believe this day points to the Rapture of the Church when the Messiah Jesus will appear in the heavens as He comes for His bride, the Church. The Rapture is always associated in Scripture with the blowing of a loud trumpet (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18and1 Corinthians 15:52).

6) Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:27) – Many believe this prophetically points to the day of the Second Coming of Jesus when He will return to earth. That will be the Day of Atonement for the Jewish remnant when they "look upon Him whom they have pierced," repent of their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10andRomans 11:1-6,25-36).

7) Tabernacles or Booths (Leviticus 23:34) – Many scholars believe that this feast day points to the Lord's promise that He will once again “tabernacle” with His people when He returns to reign over all the world (Micah 4:1-7).

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These are not Jewish feasts. Lev_23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

They are God's Feasts and the Jews was only 1/12th of the "children of Israel".

Please stop calling them "Jewish feasts".

Holy convocations = Divine Appointments.

Have you watched Mark Biltz and The significance of the four blood red moons? He does an excellent presentation about God's feasts.

[video=youtube;OxNjTveS8ys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNjTveS8ys&hd=1[/video]
 
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These are the feasts the Jews were commanded to observe in Lev 23. While you seem to detest these feasts are called "Jewish Feasts" theat is how Jews refer to them.

From a Jewish website:
[h=3]Popular Jewish Holidays[/h]The holidays discussed below are not necessarily the most important Jewish holidays, but they are the holidays that are most commonly observed by American Jews, and they are the holidays that American Jews will expect you to be familiar with.

Judaism 101: A Gentile's Guide to the Jewish Holidays
 
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These are the feasts the Jews were commanded to observe in Lev 23. While you seem to detest these feasts are called "Jewish Feasts" theat is how Jews refer to them.
From a Jewish website:
I think the difference is that calling them "Jewish Feasts" and always speaking with drama, accusing, and emotional words so favoring one thing over becomes "detests" goes along with a mindset that God speaks to the Jews as a different God than the God who speaks to gentiles. Others say they are Jewish Feasts saying that until very recently, Christians really didn't understand or know about them, and the Jewish race was told about them, first. Big difference.
 
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Can we not split hairs over minutia?
 

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These are the feasts the Jews were commanded to observe in Lev 23. While you seem to detest these feasts are called "Jewish Feasts" theat is how Jews refer to them.

From a Jewish website:
Well Jews do have their own traditions and doctrines of men that make void God's words. But none the less, I did search for "Jews feasts" and "Jewish feasts" and found no scriptures in old or new.

If I met a Jew who called them "Jewish Feasts" I'd point out to him/her Lev. 23:2 where God calls them His feast.

God took much time and gave great detail throughout scriptures to show us in His Word that the kingdom had divided...One the house of Judah and the other the house of Israel/and sometimes Ephriam."
 
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Well Jews do have their own traditions and doctrines of men that make void God's words. But none the less, I did search for "Jews feasts" and "Jewish feasts" and found no scriptures in old or new.

If I met a Jew who called them "Jewish Feasts" I'd point out to him/her Lev. 23:2 where God calls them His feast.

God took much time and gave great detail throughout scriptures to show us in His Word that the kingdom had divided...One the house of Judah and the other the house of Israel/and sometimes Ephriam."
I can't find Trinity in my bible either but i believe it is true.
 

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These are not Jewish feasts. Lev_23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

They are God's Feasts and the Jews was only 1/12th of the "children of Israel".

Please stop calling them "Jewish feasts".

Holy convocations = Divine Appointments.

Have you watched Mark Biltz and The significance of the four blood red moons? He does an excellent presentation about God's feasts.

[video=youtube;OxNjTveS8ys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNjTveS8ys&hd=1[/video]
Here's an intro to an article that sheds some perspective on the whole 'Blood Moon' craze going on in the Law-keeping and Zionist communities:

Mark Biltz is the founder of El Shaddai Ministries, a Hebrew roots resource and teaching ministry located near Tacoma, Washington. Recently Biltz has attracted attention in presentations and YouTube videos about end-time prophecy and the Lord’s return. He discusses the significance of four total lunar eclipses that will fall on the dates of Passover and Sukkot in 2014 and 2015. The Crucifixion of Jesus was at the time of Passover, and Biltz believes that the Second Coming of Christ must happen at Sukkot, so he argues that this relatively unusual event of four lunar eclipses on these four dates has great significance. He also mentions two solar eclipses in 2015 having prophetic implications. Because total lunar eclipses often appear red, people sometimes call a totally eclipsed moon a “blood moon.” Therefore, Biltz suggests that these eclipses are a fulfillment of the prophecy in Joel 2:31 of the sun being darkened and the moon turning to blood and suggests that they may presage the Lord’s return. Others, such as John Hagee, have begun speaking about this as well. Let us examine some of these claims.

You can read the entire article here: Will Lunar Eclipses Cause Four Blood Moons in 2014 and 2015? - Answers in Genesis

-JGIG
 

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I think the difference is that calling them "Jewish Feasts" and always speaking with drama, accusing, and emotional words so favoring one thing over becomes "detests" goes along with a mindset that God speaks to the Jews as a different God than the God who speaks to gentiles. Others say they are Jewish Feasts saying that until very recently, Christians really didn't understand or know about them, and the Jewish race was told about them, first. Big difference.
Huh.

Jewish people don't seem to have any trouble calling them Jewish Holidays. Here are the first several paragraphs from this article from Judaism 101 (Judaism 101: Jewish Holidays):
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]
Jewish Holidays

Level: Basic​
[/TD]
[TD]
• Holidays begin at sunset the night before
• "Work" is forbidden on many holidays
• Some holidays are one day longer than the Bible says
• Holidays fall on different dates every year​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

This is the first in a series of pages on the Jewish holidays. This page discusses some basic considerations that apply to all or many holidays. Each of the individual holiday pages talks about the significance of a holiday, its traditional observances and related customs, the date on which each holiday will occur for the next five years, and in some cases recipes for traditional, Ashkenazic holiday-related foods.

The holidays covered are listed in the site index in the right margin. For those who just want information on a need-to-know basis, there is also A Gentile's Guide to the Jewish Holidays, which will give you a basic awareness of the holidays most commonly observed by American Jews.
When Holidays Begin

All Jewish holidays begin the evening before the date specified on most calendars. This is because a Jewish "day" begins and ends at sunset, rather than at midnight. If you read the story of creation in Genesis Ch. 1, you will notice that it says, "And there was evening, and there was morning, one day." From this, we infer that a day begins with evening, that is, sunset. Holidays end at nightfall of the date specified on most calendars; that is, at the time when it becomes dark out, about an hour after sunset.

For the precise time when a holiday begins and ends in your area, consult the list of candle lighting times provided by the Orthodox Union, by Chabad or by any Jewish calendar.

For a discussion of why Jewish holidays occur on different days every year, see Jewish Calendar.

Nope. They don't have a problem with it at all.

Why do you?

It seems that you are actually the one "always speaking with drama, accusing, and emotional words".

-JGIG
 

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Well Jews do have their own traditions and doctrines of men that make void God's words. But none the less, I did search for "Jews feasts" and "Jewish feasts" and found no scriptures in old or new.

If I met a Jew who called them "Jewish Feasts" I'd point out to him/her Lev. 23:2 where God calls them His feast.

God took much time and gave great detail throughout scriptures to show us in His Word that the kingdom had divided...One the house of Judah and the other the house of Israel/and sometimes Ephriam."
So you'd correct a Jewish person about their own Feasts?

Classy.

You do realize that the 'Lost Tribes' aren't lost anymore and haven't been lost for a very, very long time, right?

Perhaps you should read this article (written by a Jew, but I hope that won't disqualify him - AND he uses contextual Scripture!): Levitt Letter Extra News | Ten Lost Tribes: Found!


-JGIG
 
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Here's one of the articles written by Zola Levitt from my Tim LaHaye Prophecy Study Bible - KJV ©2000 by AMG Publishers: The Seven Feasts of Israel

The Seven Feasts of Israel
By Zola Levitt​

The seven feasts of Israel, as found in Leviticus 23, provide a prophetic preview of the vital future events that relate to Christ, the Church, and the Jews. The seven feasts are important to comprehend so the believer can have a basic understanding of God’s calendar.

The first feast on the festival calendar was Passover, the feast of redemption (Leviticus 23:5). A lamb without spot or blemish was to be sacrificed and his blood shed for deliverance and salvation. It was by divine design from the beginning of time that our Lord Jesus was to be sacrificed on Passover day. Passover represents our salvation in that “the Lamb of God” (John 1:29) takes away the sin of the world.

The Feast of Unleavened Bread begins on the night after Passover (Leviticus 23:6). God commanded the Jews to eat unleavened bread during the week following Passover, symbolizing a holy walk with the Lord. The unleavened bread of the New Testament is the body of our Lord Jesus Christ. He is called “the bread of life” (John 6:35), and His body was buried during this feast.

The Feast of Firstfruits (Leviticus 23:10-11) is held on the Sunday following Unleavened Bread. In it Israel would acknowledge Him as the One who gave them the fertility of the land. They were to bring the firstfruits of the early crops to the priest in the Temple to be waved before the Lord on their behalf. We not only celebrate the resurrection of our Lord on this feast day, but also the resurrection of the Church (1 Corinthians 15:23).

Pentecost, connoting fifty days, was to occur fifty days after Firstfruits (Leviticus 23:15-17) and involved taking “two wave loaves” baked with leaven and of equal weight. Since they are baked with leaven (which symbolizes sin), they represent sinful men. Thus, God was predicting that the Church would be comprised of two equal parts, Jews and Gentiles. When the Holy Spirit came, there was a harvest of 3,000 souls (Acts 2:41), only a small token of the great harvest to come in the rapture of the Church.

Trumpets were to be blown at the commencement of the Feast of Trumpets (Leviticus 23:24), which finds its exact parallel and fulfillment in the rapture of the Church (1 Corinthians 15: 51-52; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) when that great trumpet sounds. The graves will give up those who died in faith and believers that are alive will rise from the earth. All the believers will be mysteriously changed and outfitted for immortality.

On the solemn Day of Atonement, the high priest of Israel entered into the Holy of Holies and made a sacrifice on his own behalf and for all the sins of Israel (Leviticus 23:27). Jesus is the final atonement for all the sins once and forever (Hebrews 9-10). The Day of Atonement will be fulfilled in a wonderful way when the Lord returns at His Second Coming, at which point Israel will finally accept His atonement (Zechariah 12:10; Romans 11:25-27).

The Feast of Tabernacles celebrates the fact that God wanted to provide shelter for the Israelites in the wilderness (Leviticus 23:39-43). Each year devout Jews build little shelters outside their houses and worship in them. The Lord’s great tabernacle will exist in Jerusalem during the Millennial Kingdom. The entire world will come every year to appear before the King and worship Him.
 
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Here's an intro to an article that sheds some perspective on the whole 'Blood Moon' craze going on in the Law-keeping and Zionist communities:
Mark Biltz is the founder of El Shaddai Ministries, a Hebrew roots resource and teaching ministry located near Tacoma, Washington. Recently Biltz has attracted attention in presentations and YouTube videos about end-time prophecy and the Lord’s return. He discusses the significance of four total lunar eclipses that will fall on the dates of Passover and Sukkot in 2014 and 2015. The Crucifixion of Jesus was at the time of Passover, and Biltz believes that the Second Coming of Christ must happen at Sukkot, so he argues that this relatively unusual event of four lunar eclipses on these four dates has great significance. He also mentions two solar eclipses in 2015 having prophetic implications. Because total lunar eclipses often appear red, people sometimes call a totally eclipsed moon a “blood moon.” Therefore, Biltz suggests that these eclipses are a fulfillment of the prophecy in Joel 2:31 of the sun being darkened and the moon turning to blood and suggests that they may presage the Lord’s return. Others, such as John Hagee, have begun speaking about this as well. Let us examine some of these claims.

You can read the entire article here: Will Lunar Eclipses Cause Four Blood Moons in 2014 and 2015? - Answers in Genesis

-JGIG
The red moon mania is just another red herring. "Blood moons" happen all the time and through out this planets history. Matthew 24 never mentions them.
 
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Huh.

Jewish people don't seem to have any trouble calling them Jewish Holidays. Here are the first several paragraphs from this article from Judaism 101 (Judaism 101: Jewish Holidays):[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]
Jewish Holidays

Level: Basic​
[/TD]
[TD]
• Holidays begin at sunset the night before
• "Work" is forbidden on many holidays
• Some holidays are one day longer than the Bible says
• Holidays fall on different dates every year​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

This is the first in a series of pages on the Jewish holidays. This page discusses some basic considerations that apply to all or many holidays. Each of the individual holiday pages talks about the significance of a holiday, its traditional observances and related customs, the date on which each holiday will occur for the next five years, and in some cases recipes for traditional, Ashkenazic holiday-related foods.

The holidays covered are listed in the site index in the right margin. For those who just want information on a need-to-know basis, there is also A Gentile's Guide to the Jewish Holidays, which will give you a basic awareness of the holidays most commonly observed by American Jews.
When Holidays Begin

All Jewish holidays begin the evening before the date specified on most calendars. This is because a Jewish "day" begins and ends at sunset, rather than at midnight. If you read the story of creation in Genesis Ch. 1, you will notice that it says, "And there was evening, and there was morning, one day." From this, we infer that a day begins with evening, that is, sunset. Holidays end at nightfall of the date specified on most calendars; that is, at the time when it becomes dark out, about an hour after sunset.

For the precise time when a holiday begins and ends in your area, consult the list of candle lighting times provided by the Orthodox Union, by Chabad or by any Jewish calendar.

For a discussion of why Jewish holidays occur on different days every year, see Jewish Calendar.

Nope. They don't have a problem with it at all.

Why do you?

It seems that you are actually the one "always speaking with drama, accusing, and emotional words".

-JGIG
Here is someone who says of me, although I am a Christian who believes in Christ as My Savior and we would be sisters if all also was of Christ, she says these things about me: "you don't speak the cross, you speak law" "you don't glorify Christ only law" "you are self center" "You tell fibs" "you don't preach the gospel" "absence from your posts is God's forgiveness" "you don't tell the truth" "you fabricate fibs" "you believe Christ is yet to come" "You believe Kabbalistic thought" (whatever that is!) "you are self centered" "I don't see you glorifying Christ" "you don't get it" "you have proven yourself to be untrustworthy".

This vendetta is over my belief that the first five books of the bible are truly scripture, and Paul believed that, too.

Evidently, there is a question in the church today, can Christ the Son and all that means to us, and God the Father, our creator, live in the same world? Are they opponents or the same? Opponents to that idea always bring up law as the dividing factor, although scripture seems to point to law as never dividing, but only the result of all of God/ Yet these religious fighters always say it is about law. Bewildering.
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...so, if the Fall Feasts of the Lord are rehearsals for when He returns...why aren't Christians rehearsing?
 

JGIG

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...so, if the Fall Feasts of the Lord are rehearsals for when He returns...why aren't Christians rehearsing?
Scripture please . . .

Thanks.

-JGIG
 
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Here is a concise article of How Jesus will eventually fulfill all of the 7 Jewish feasts.

I believe this. In ancient times, God spoke to Moses and told him to tell the Israelites what God's appointed feasts and sacred assemblies would be (Leviticus 23:1-44). These are the four primary Hebraic or Jewish Feasts/Holy Days in the Spring:

  1. Passover,
  2. Feast of Unleavened Bread,
  3. Feast of Firstfruits, and
  4. Shavuot (Feast of Weeks).

In fact, Jesus was crucified and died on the day of Passover. He was buried before sunset and lay in the tomb on the first three nights of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. He was resurrected physically from death on the day of Firstfruits. And, fifty days from His resurrection (and ten days following His ascension into heaven—Acts 1:3,9), the Holy Spirit came upon many Jews who had gathered in Jerusalem on Shavuot, or the day of Pentecost. Many more details can be found in Parts I, II, III, and IV of Chapter 4 of my online book in
Hebraic Spring Festivals/Holy Days and also in Good Thursday.These are the three primary Hebraic Jewish Feasts/Holy Days in the Fall:


  1. Rosh haShanah (Feast of Trumpets),
  2. Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement), and
  3. Sukkot (Feast of Tabernacles).

I believe that the main
Rapture event will occur on a Rosh haShanah, that the physical return of Jesus to the earth at the end of the 70th Week will occur on a Yom Kippur, and then the survivors of the nations of the world who attacked Jerusalem during the 70th Week will gather in Jerusalem to worship Jesus, the King, on Sukkot or the Feast of Tabernacles (Zechariah 14:16). The latter probably is Jesus' birthday, rather than Christmas. Many more details can be found in Parts I, II, and III of Chapter 5 of my online book in Hebraic Fall Festivals/Holy Days.

From: How is it that Jesus is the fulfillment of the Jewish Spring and Fall feasts and holy days?
 
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...so, if the Fall Feasts of the Lord are rehearsals for when He returns...why aren't Christians rehearsing?
Get right or get left!

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
 
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Just so everyone knows "Rosh Hashanah" is the pharisee altered "feast" day and is not true to FoT.
 

Hizikyah

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The Feasts of Yahweh are really an amazing thing on so many levels, foremost being he prophetic level and fulfillment (fulfilled or yet to be). Such an amazing lesson in learning Yahweh's plan for mankind, and at the same time Spiritual, mental, and physical tools to teach us certain lesson or principles.

Leviticus 23:2, "Speak to the children of Israyl, and say to them; Concerning the Feasts of Yahweh, which you shall proclaim to be Holy Convocations; these are My Feasts."

I personally enjoy honoring Yahweh's Feasts days as they are called "appointed times" (moadim) and "holy convocations" (kodesh mikra). Set times for Yahweh's Spirit to be with us! Really amazing stuff!
 

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Huh.

Jewish people don't seem to have any trouble calling them Jewish Holidays. Here are the first several paragraphs from this article from Judaism 101 (Judaism 101: Jewish Holidays):[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]
Jewish Holidays

Level: Basic​
[/TD]
[TD]
• Holidays begin at sunset the night before
• "Work" is forbidden on many holidays
• Some holidays are one day longer than the Bible says
• Holidays fall on different dates every year​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

This is the first in a series of pages on the Jewish holidays. This page discusses some basic considerations that apply to all or many holidays. Each of the individual holiday pages talks about the significance of a holiday, its traditional observances and related customs, the date on which each holiday will occur for the next five years, and in some cases recipes for traditional, Ashkenazic holiday-related foods.

The holidays covered are listed in the site index in the right margin. For those who just want information on a need-to-know basis, there is also A Gentile's Guide to the Jewish Holidays, which will give you a basic awareness of the holidays most commonly observed by American Jews.
When Holidays Begin

All Jewish holidays begin the evening before the date specified on most calendars. This is because a Jewish "day" begins and ends at sunset, rather than at midnight. If you read the story of creation in Genesis Ch. 1, you will notice that it says, "And there was evening, and there was morning, one day." From this, we infer that a day begins with evening, that is, sunset. Holidays end at nightfall of the date specified on most calendars; that is, at the time when it becomes dark out, about an hour after sunset.

For the precise time when a holiday begins and ends in your area, consult the list of candle lighting times provided by the Orthodox Union, by Chabad or by any Jewish calendar.

For a discussion of why Jewish holidays occur on different days every year, see Jewish Calendar.

Nope. They don't have a problem with it at all.

Why do you?

It seems that you are actually the one "always speaking with drama, accusing, and emotional words".

-JGIG
Here is someone who says of me, although I am a Christian who believes in Christ as My Savior and we would be sisters if all also was of Christ, she says these things about me: "you don't speak the cross, you speak law" "you don't glorify Christ only law" "you are self center" "You tell fibs" "you don't preach the gospel" "absence from your posts is God's forgiveness" "you don't tell the truth" "you fabricate fibs" "you believe Christ is yet to come" "You believe Kabbalistic thought" (whatever that is!) "you are self centered" "I don't see you glorifying Christ" "you don't get it" "you have proven yourself to be untrustworthy".
You again are making stuff up, RedTent. If I actually posted those things, cite the posts where I did so.

Have I posted that you fib? Yes, and then I quoted and linked to the posts where you did so. Anything else I've posted is also backed up with your direct quotes and links to your posts where you make those quotes.

Have I posted that you believe Kabbalistic thought? Yes, and provided the thread where several of us tried to show you (repeatedly) where the teaching site you said you had learned so much from renders much of what it teaches from Kabbalistic thought. You would have none of it, trying to say that you didn't want anything to do with OUR Kabbalah! (http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/88768-new-look-galatians.html)

All that so you don't have to respond to what I actually post.

Do you think folks won't really notice?


This vendetta is over my belief that the first five books of the bible are truly scripture, and Paul believed that, too.
Again, if you're going to make an accusation like that, please provide the post where I've ever chided ANYONE for believing that the Torah is Scripture. Why would I? I believe that Torah is Scripture!

You are simply making it up.

"Vendetta"? And you say that others are the ones "always speaking with drama, accusing, and emotional words" ?

Really??

Evidently, there is a question in the church today, can Christ the Son and all that means to us, and God the Father, our creator, live in the same world? Are they opponents or the same? Opponents to that idea always bring up law as the dividing factor, although scripture seems to point to law as never dividing, but only the result of all of God/ Yet these religious fighters always say it is about law. Bewildering.
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What is bewildering is where you get this stuff. Where has ANYONE posted that they think that God the Father and the Son don't "live in the same world"? Or that they're "opponents"? Or that "the Law is the dividing factor" between them?

Again, you are making this stuff up. NO ONE is saying the things you are saying "they" do.

So! How 'bout those Jewish people who have no problem calling the "Feasts of Israel" by the term, "Jewish Holidays"?

Do you actually have anything to say about that when shown what they themselves call those days?

-JGIG