All Prayers To God Through Mary: Total Consecration to the Immaculate -Real Sources

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1still_waters

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All sources below come straight from Roman Catholic sources. This is not from anti-Catholic propaganda sites.
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SUMMARY
There is a Roman Catholic practice called Total Consecration to the Immaculate.
These three things are part of the practice.


1. We promise to become dependent on Mary in all things.
2. To offer all our prayers and oblations to God through Mary.
3. T
o seek every gift from God through Mary.
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THE DETAILS WITH EVIDENCE
I came across a Roman Catholic term/practice today while doing research.
It involves offering up all prayers to God through Mary.
Not through Jesus, but through Mary.

"Total Consecration to the Immaculate"
I saw the term while reading about Pope Francis's visit to a religious community.

The Franciscans sang the Ave Maria of Fatima and in the hands of the Pope renewed their vow of Total Consecration to the Immaculate.

eucharistandmission: Pope meets Franciscans of the Immaculate : seminary to remain closed

What is Total Consecration to the Immaculate all about?
Don't worry, I didn't go to anti-Catholic sites to find sources.
Sometimes they can over spin rhetoric and make things look super scary.


Here is a description from an actual Roman Catholic related site.

By our consecration we promise to become dependent on Mary in all things: to offer all our prayers and oblations to God through Mary, and to seek every gift from God through Mary. And we do this with the greatest confidence. Since she is our mother, she knows our needs better than we; and since she is Queen of Heaven, she has immediate access to the infinite treasury of graces in the Kingdom of her Divine Son.
CONSECRATION TO THE IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY

Roman Catholics on this forum tend to downplay the whole praying to Mary thing.
They portray it as if you're just giving Mary some of your prayer requests, so she can pray for you. You know, just like when you call Mrs. Snodgrass for prayer in your church's prayer chain.

As you can see, Total Consecration To The Immaculate takes it further than Mary being your heavenly prayer partner version of Mrs. Snodgrass.


1. We promise to become dependent on Mary in all things.
2. To offer all our prayers and oblations to God through Mary.
3. T
o seek every gift from God through Mary.

Before you go questioning my source above, know that this movement is directly linked to the Roman Catholic Church.

Rosary Confraternity of the Catholic Church, a world-wide movement of prayer for peace. We are administered by the Dominican Fathers, Fr. Reginald Martin, O.P., Director. We are located next to the Holy Rosary Church in Portland,Oregon, USA, the city of roses. Included is how to pray the rosary. Those who pray the Rosary regularly would do well to be enrolled in the Confraternity to gain extra spiritual benefits for each Rosary they pray.

Rosary Center - Rosary Confraternity

This is all linked to Fatima, which Pope Francis himself approves of.

VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis will consecrate the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary Oct. 13 as part of the Marian Day celebration that will involve the iconic statue of Our Lady of the Rosary of Fatima.“The Holy Father strongly desires that the Marian Day may have present, as a special sign, one of the most significant Marian icons for Christians throughout the world, and, for that reason, we thought of the beloved original statue of Our Lady of Fatima,” wrote Cardinal Rino Fisichella.

Pope Francis to Consecrate the World to Mary’s Immaculate Heart | Daily News | NCRegister.com
Corrections to Roman Catholicism's Heresy as shown above.

1. W
e promise to become dependent on Mary in all things.

The Bible says we must be dependent on Jesus in all things.
John 15
5
“I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

2. To offer all our prayers and oblations to God through Mary.

The Bible says we have access to God through Jesus.
1 Timothy 2:5

5 For
there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,

3. To seek every gift from God through Mary.

The Bible says all spiritual blessings are found in Jesus.
Ephesians 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
 
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Boy, that's when total severance from Christ takes place and where one has set up 'in the place of Christ' their Church's image...just a precursor to what's to come.
 
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This is the one practice I openly challenge. What St. Louis meant by this original thirty day consecration vs. what many of my brothers and sisters have turned it into is blasphemy. I stand with many Catholics, such as Matthew Kelly, and often argue over this practice.

I can only hope that our voice will be that of Paul scolding Peter.
 
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Roman Catholicism is nothing more than the worship of Osiris, Isis and Horus. They just changed the names. Osiris - god, Isis - Mary and Horus - Jesus. Horus is the "dying" god, that's why they have a dead Jesus on the cross... it's not Jesus Christ, it's Horus.
 

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Roman Catholicism is nothing more than the worship of Osiris, Isis and Horus. They just changed the names. Osiris - god, Isis - Mary and Horus - Jesus. Horus is the "dying" god, that's why they have a dead Jesus on the cross... it's not Jesus Christ, it's Horus.
Source? Hislop? Chick? who?
 
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1still_waters

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The Catholics are going to say this is just a fringe practice.
Don't buy that one bit.

Here are prayers to Mary aimed at this consecration to the immaculate.
These prayers are from mainstream Catholic sources. One of them from a Pope.
They are very congruent with the three listed things in the original post.

The original list, and then mainstream catholic prayers.
1. We promise to become dependent on Mary in all things.
2. To offer all our prayers and oblations to God through Mary.
3. T
o seek every gift from God through Mary.
Straight from a Pope.
1.Request for Mary to rule over them.
2.Statements saying Mary, not God carries out her designs in the world.
3.Mary as a savior from sins.
4.Mary as a throne of grace.
5.Mary has a triumphant rule.


Please accept our consecration, dearest Mother, and use us as You wish to accomplish Your designs in the world.O Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary, Queen of the Most Holy Rosary, and Queen of the World, rule over us,

Save us from the spreading flood of modern paganism; kindle in our hearts and homes the love of purity, the practice of a virtuous life, an ardent zeal for souls, and a desire to pray the Rosary more faithfully.

We come with confidence to You, O Throne of Grace
together with your rule, triumph in every heart and home.

Read more:A Solemn Act of Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

--Venerable Pope Pius XII
A Solemn Act of Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary



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From their mainstream EWTN Catholic TV station.

6. Consecration to Mary their whole being, life, love, all that they are.
7. Request that all that they are to belong to Mary.
8. Promise to devote themselves whole-heartedly to the service of the blessed cult.


We consecrate to thee our very being and our whole life; all that we have, all that we love, all
that we are. To thee we give our bodies, our hearts and our souls; to thee we give our homes, our families, our country. We desire that all that is in us and around us may belong to thee,


Finally, we promise thee, O glorious Mother of God and loving Mother of men, to devote ourselves whole-heartedly to the service of thy blessed cult,
https://www.ewtn.com/library/PRAYER/CONMARY.TXT

Here's the list from the so called "fringe".
1. We promise to become dependent on Mary in all things.
2. To offer all our prayers and oblations to God through Mary.
3. T
o seek every gift from God through Mary.
Here's the list from the prayer of a Pope, and the prayer from a mainstream Catholic TV station.
Straight from a Pope, and their mainstream TV station.
1. Request for Mary to rule over them.
2. Statements saying Mary, not God carries out her designs in the world.
3. Mary shown as savior from sins.
4. Mary described as a throne of grace.
5. Mary described as having a triumphant rule.
6. Consecration to Mary their whole being, life, love, all that they are.
7. Request that all that they are to belong to Mary.
8. Promise to devote themselves whole-heartedly to the service of the blessed cult.


This is not just fringe activity. This is mainstream stuff that goes right up to the office of Pope.


 
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Queen of Heaven was a title given to a number of ancient sky goddesses in the ancient Mediterranean and Near East, in particular Anat, Isis, Innana, Astarte, Hera and possiblyAsherah (by the prophet Jeremiah). Elsewhere, Nordic Frigg also bore this title. In Greco-Roman times Hera, and her Roman aspect Juno bore this title. Forms and content of worship varied. In modern times, the title Queen of Heaven is used by Catholics and Orthodox Christians for Mary.

Mary is invoked in the Litany of Loreto as:

  • Queen of the Angels,
  • Queen of Patriarchs,
  • Queen of Prophets,
  • Queen of Apostles,
  • Queen of Martyrs,
  • Queen of Confessors,
  • Queen of Virgins,
  • Queen of all Saints
  • Queen of Families.[SUP][11][/SUP]
  • Queen conceived without original sin
  • Queen assumed into Heaven
  • Queen of the Most Holy Rosary
  • Queen of Peace[SUP][12][/SUP]
Other titles
Other titles have been added to reflect modern scientific understanding. The Second Vatican Council in 1964 referred to Mary as Queen of the Universe. Section 59 of Lumen Gentium, the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church from Vatican II, stated: "Finally, the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all guilt of original sin, on the completion of her earthly sojourn, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord asQueen of the universe, that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and the conqueror of sin and death." This reference came at a time during which space exploration was beginning.[SUP][13]

( Wikipedia)[/SUP]
 

Jackson123

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That is [h=3]COUP D'ETAT[/h]
Replace the Jesus Christ function or eat least supinely take over the authority of Jesus.
 
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Isaiah 42:8 (KJV) [SUP]8 [/SUP]I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
 
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Okay, you guys are not happy with anything I write. How about I just start going online and bringing up threads over and over about Baptists. That would get me banned. About Pentecostals. Banned. About Methodists. Banned. So realize that 1stillwaters, you created the playing field. If we are unable to respond in any way, because everything we say is obviously a lie. RRealize you're the one who entered the conversation with preconceptions and already have judged us damned. I'll keep on trying to educate, and eventually I am probably gonna get banned. But I find it odd, that I try to explain, I try to not get angry because "it isn't personal." And yet, I'll bet that after I am gone. There will still be these posts about how Catholics are molesting children to raise them up to worship Satan. As ludicrous as that sounds, you'll still turn your head.

In the end, it is personal. Because when everything you respond to, and even when I stand up and explain that I agree about something, I'm deceiving. So, stop and honestly pray about how you actually come off. I don't know your intent, but your responses speak loudly that you will never stand by my side. God help me should the United States ever turn against Catholics, because sometimes I honestly wonder if it will be people on here who will light the fire that consumes my life.
 
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Okay, you guys are not happy with anything I write. How about I just start going online and bringing up threads over and over about Baptists. That would get me banned. About Pentecostals. Banned. About Methodists. Banned. So realize that 1stillwaters, you created the playing field. If we are unable to respond in any way, because everything we say is obviously a lie. RRealize you're the one who entered the conversation with preconceptions and already have judged us damned. I'll keep on trying to educate, and eventually I am probably gonna get banned. But I find it odd, that I try to explain, I try to not get angry because "it isn't personal." And yet, I'll bet that after I am gone. There will still be these posts about how Catholics are molesting children to raise them up to worship Satan. As ludicrous as that sounds, you'll still turn your head.

In the end, it is personal. Because when everything you respond to, and even when I stand up and explain that I agree about something, I'm deceiving. So, stop and honestly pray about how you actually come off. I don't know your intent, but your responses speak loudly that you will never stand by my side. God help me should the United States ever turn against Catholics, because sometimes I honestly wonder if it will be people on here who will light the fire that consumes my life.
I'm replying with sourced information right from Catholic sites.
I'm showing that this clearly isn't just a fringe activity.
I'm showing things that go straight to the office of pope, and straight to a mainstream Catholic TV station.

The Pope is mainstream. Things he says can't be described as fringe. Maybe the "fringe" exists because he said things totally congruent with what they believe.

Again the list.
First five straight from a Pope. (Mainstream as you can get.)
Last three from EWTN. (For sure not some pirate TV station operating off of Sicily.)

traight from a Pope, and their mainstream TV station.
1. Request for Mary to rule over them.
2. Statements saying Mary, not God carries out her designs in the world.
3. Mary shown as savior from sins.
4. Mary described as a throne of grace.
5. Mary described as having a triumphant rule.
6. Consecration to Mary their whole being, life, love, all that they are.
7. Request that all that they are to belong to Mary.
8. Promise to devote themselves whole-heartedly to the service of the blessed cult
 
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It would have been just as easy to just say HERESY!
 
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@ ThomastColin,
Yeah, Id say it's personal. It's personal to me to know the truth, & personal for the sake of others because we're trying to open people's eyes to the truth. It's information like this that drove the Protestant preachers of the 19th century such as Spurgeon to speak out against the RCC. This religion is bloodier by far than any other christian religion even the American protestants of the 1600's Salem witch trials. This does not include the Jesuits, which to this day are still doing the RCC's dirty work.
 
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Queen of Heaven was a title given to a number of ancient sky goddesses in the ancient Mediterranean and Near East, in particular Anat, Isis, Innana, Astarte, Hera and possiblyAsherah (by the prophet Jeremiah). Elsewhere, Nordic Frigg also bore this title. In Greco-Roman times Hera, and her Roman aspect Juno bore this title. Forms and content of worship varied. In modern times, the title Queen of Heaven is used by Catholics and Orthodox Christians for Mary.

Mary is invoked in the Litany of Loreto as:

  • Queen of the Angels,
  • Queen of Patriarchs,
  • Queen of Prophets,
  • Queen of Apostles,
  • Queen of Martyrs,
  • Queen of Confessors,
  • Queen of Virgins,
  • Queen of all Saints
  • Queen of Families.[SUP][11][/SUP]
  • Queen conceived without original sin
  • Queen assumed into Heaven
  • Queen of the Most Holy Rosary
  • Queen of Peace[SUP][12][/SUP]
Other titles
Other titles have been added to reflect modern scientific understanding. The Second Vatican Council in 1964 referred to Mary as Queen of the Universe. Section 59 of Lumen Gentium, the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church from Vatican II, stated: "Finally, the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all guilt of original sin, on the completion of her earthly sojourn, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord asQueen of the universe, that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and the conqueror of sin and death." This reference came at a time during which space exploration was beginning.[SUP][13]

( Wikipedia)[/SUP]
also...queen of Idolatry amongst Universal (church) members.....thanks for the posting as it exposes to fallacy of following idols...
 
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Okay, you guys are not happy with anything I write. How about I just start going online and bringing up threads over and over about Baptists. That would get me banned. About Pentecostals. Banned. About Methodists. Banned. So realize that 1stillwaters, you created the playing field. If we are unable to respond in any way, because everything we say is obviously a lie. RRealize you're the one who entered the conversation with preconceptions and already have judged us damned. I'll keep on trying to educate, and eventually I am probably gonna get banned. But I find it odd, that I try to explain, I try to not get angry because "it isn't personal." And yet, I'll bet that after I am gone. There will still be these posts about how Catholics are molesting children to raise them up to worship Satan. As ludicrous as that sounds, you'll still turn your head.

In the end, it is personal. Because when everything you respond to, and even when I stand up and explain that I agree about something, I'm deceiving. So, stop and honestly pray about how you actually come off. I don't know your intent, but your responses speak loudly that you will never stand by my side. God help me should the United States ever turn against Catholics, because sometimes I honestly wonder if it will be people on here who will light the fire that consumes my life.
the problem is this comes straight from the Pope himself.

Yet I hear you say you disagree and it is a fringe thing, yet refuse to condemn the pope is in error. (I guess How can Gods infalible representative make a mistake. if he can make a mistake. then all popes could. and this is just to hard to admit)

And you wonder why people treat your church they way they do.

 
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Let's not forget all the other popes that ordered the executions of thousands of christians such as the reformers & those killed during the crusades.
 
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But I find it odd, that I try to explain, I try to not get angry because "it isn't personal."
Your replies are being met with statements straight from your Pope, and a very mainstream TV station. You're not being called a liar about the RCC, I'm simply give source material as a reply to things you say.

I don't know your intent, but your responses speak loudly that you will never stand by my side.
I can't stand by the side of and unite with a faith, where their Pope describes Mary with qualities that belong to God alone.
The list again.
Straight from a Pope, and their mainstream TV station.
1. Request for Mary to rule over them.
2. Statements saying Mary, not God carries out her designs in the world.
3. Mary shown as savior from sins.
4. Mary described as a throne of grace.
5. Mary described as having a triumphant rule.
6. Consecration to Mary their whole being, life, love, all that they are.
7. Request that all that they are to belong to Mary.
8. Promise to devote themselves whole-heartedly to the service of the blessed cult.
1.God rules, not Mary.
2.God carries out his designs in the world, not Mary.
3.Jesus rescues me from sins and delivers me from the evil one, not Mary.
4.Jesus has a throne of grace, not Mary.
5.Jesus has a triumphant rule, not Mary.
6.We give our whole life to God, not Mary.
7.All that we are belongs to God, not Mary.
8.We promise to devote ourselves to God, not Mary's cult.
 
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And your faith and church are perfect. This is nothing more than the return of the donatists. They believed that if anyone or anything, even the Church, had even the slightest imperfection they were lost and could never be saved. I have condemned this. I said so, time and time again. And yet the return is to respond as if I have said you were wrong.

Southern Baptist convention believes according to their doctrine that if you're not fully immersed in water, you're not saved.
Pentecostals hold tongues to be proof of salvation.
Episcopalians allow practicing homosexuals to be pastors and ministers.
Many nondenominational churches claim a prosperity gospel.
Many charismatic churches hold that homosexuals are born damned.

During the rule.of Elizabeth the First, Catholic priests and nuns were burnt at the stake and hung.
Martin Luther fathered two children out of wedlock and was accused of murdering a man prior to his entrance into the monastery.
John Calvin personally ordered the burning of cathedrals while people were still inside.
John Wesley believed that if one were in the pure presence of God, one should have an orgasm.
No Christian interceded to help the Armenian Christians being slaughtered by Muslims. They were saved by Salah Al'Din, a Muslim.
Serbian Orthodox raped and murdered Bosnian Muslims in order to ethnically cleanse Serbia.
Russian Orthodox have shown a blind eye to the KGB and the Russian organized crime syndicates.


Guess what?! Those are their specks.

I HAVE MY OWN PLANK TO DEAL WITH. Too many Catholics worship Mary. I preach against it. I teach against it. There is a Church worth saving. LET US DEAL WITH IT. At the very least, let us try. Stop being a nest of vipers snapping at every turn.

Jesus had more compassion and patience.
 
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Phew, I feel better now. Okay have at brothers and sisters.