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I agree it was prophetic indeed.

Cassandra of Troy .. Hmm you know she was considered insane?

It would seem you take delight in destruction, that is not a good sign.
Yea poor Cassandra, cursed to tell the truth but never be believed and to be ridiculed instead. Ajax the Lesser raped her so viciously that even the demons wept it is written in the white people histories.

I don't take delight in destruction, oh my goodness look how the older generations sold us out so much and how my generation whores with the foreigner to the umpteenth degree. Look at all their iniquity and how they destroy the inheritance of the Lord, it is not hidden, it is even done before the face of the sun.

I delight in the justice and salvation of the Lord God Most High. I believe firmly Jesus will return and utterly destroy the wicked with the greatest vexations and curses so great will it be that the scoffers will not even believe it even as it has begun to unfold before our very eyes. God will save me and many others from their hands, praise Jesus.
 

Jackson123

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So if a person not bear the fruit of love will be burn or go to hell

That consistence with the whole bible teaching

Abide in Jesus mean Jesus in us and we in Him

If Jesus in us, we will act like in love

If Jesus not in us we do not have love

How we expect go to heaven if we not ask Jesus in to our life

I believe abide in Jesus mean have faith in jesus

It will produce salvation and fruit of love

If we do not have faith in Jesus, than we do not have salvation like a branch that not bear fruit will be burn
 
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I don't take delight in destruction,
So you have decided to drop the "lol" then, good choice.

I don't take delight in destruction, oh my goodness look how the older generations sold us out so much and how my generation whores with the foreigner to the umpteenth degree.
Empires rise and fall, nothing new there.
 
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So you have decided to drop the "lol" then, good choice.



Empires rise and fall, nothing new there.
No I am going to lol and sing praises to Jesus while they weep for eternity in accordance to the prophecies.

True that on empires, true that indeed! We're watching fall of one, sadly Murica and the West, and the rise of the final Beast Empire, and unless we speak out like the watchman then we're guilty of it. Therefore may they burn in hellfire for all their extreme forms of wickedness the likes of which has not been seen before, praise Jesus.
 

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LOL I'm not sure why I capitalized "Us". Oops. :oops:
God engineered a "vastness" in salvation.
Your post is spot on,but more can build on it.
Why?
Because we all have a testimony.

Another component is the bride/groom component.
In a sense (note "a sense") we were "married" to the world. A total decisive bond with this world. Men driven by lust,impulses,and flat out slaves to sin.
We had a beligerant ,lying,backstabbing master. A "husband"

The new master/bride groom breaks that bondage and a new freedom enters.

Now,did we seek him?
Did he seek us?
Or did we first meet indirectly and i was smitten with his sight?

How did that first sight and encounter come?

For me, i saw a girl that had something i did not.
I can still remember her spirit.
God was all over her. I,as a vile lost sinner could see it. I remember like it was yesterday (1976) thinking "i dont know what she has,but i want it"
She was the doorway to my meeting Jesus.
 
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So you don't see the glaring contradiction here then?
Not at all. It is pleasant to sing the praises to King Jesus triumphing over his enemies and delivering us from their wicked hands proving he is the true savior! Praise Jesus.
 

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He pay the debt only for those who believe in Him, if He pay the whole world, than no body go to hell.

He pay every time we ask forgiveness, for the future debt, we have to
See I don't think we "have" to repent and ask forgiveness, I think we "will", but only because He has changed our hearts and we are now ABLE to want this. This is also why He gets all glory and credit when we do repent and fall at His feet, not in fear, but because it honestly hurts now when I know I've sinned and fallen short. Before I could justify everything and forget about it as soon as I thought of something else, but not not. Now I WANT to obey, but again only by His power, and believe He will lose NONE that the Father has given Him, so I do agree with DC as far as knowing I can not lose salvation, and don't want to. I honestly believe the truth lies in the middle, "both and", not "either or".
 
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My blue healer recently passed.
She took a piece of me with her.

don't you just love that breed?

my first one had a little something besides heeler so she was calm and easily corrected...except for the heel thing. she never did
get over wanting to nosh on the heels of anything...except me haha

we have one now that has her own weather system. but love her much.

they are like little people in an exotic suit

awfully sorry that yours recently passed away. I am familiar with that kind of pain

might be too soon to mention this, but I know of several good heeler rescues...they often even have pups. if ever you would want to
get another....
 

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Is that verse mean every body in the world go to heaven?

Jesus only pay the sin for the believer not for every body and if you tell,me where the verse come from, I will read the context
Everyone in the world will go to heaven if they ask for forgiveness and invite the Holy Spirit to live inside to comfort and guide them on their spiritual journey.
 

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You know as I go back and read this I see this post and I think to myself, this is probably how ya'll let things get so bad. For clarity we don't need vigilantism, really the government should be cleansing the land and killing all the wicked whores, and faggots, and witches, and adulterers, and pagans, and idol worshippers, etc. They are certainly entrenched across America, particularly the degenerate liberal conquered states that belong now to Babylon and the foreigners as God expressly warned would happen if you did not cleanse the land and put the evil away from us. But the government does not do this but is actually in cahoots with them, meanwhile anyone who will express this fundamental truth will be derided. Oh how the darkness hates the light because their own deeds are so very wicked and deserving of all death! But I just relax because the good Lord Jesus is promised to return to miserably slay all those people and he will make them burn hellfire forever, praise Jesus!
Wow, this is the kind of tyrannical mindset that the RCC had in it's "kill for Jesus" days. If you think our "government" should be rounding up and killing anybody you are no better than these leftist+socialist nut jobs in Congress now spewing nothing but lies to divide, calling others hateful while wanting to take away their free speech. Have you read the bible? Are you really telling me the Lord and God that stepped into His creation, never did anything but the Fathers will for His whole live and for the love of His people, laid down His life so the price to forgive their sin could be paid, the One who prayed "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" while those very people where nailing Him to a cross, you're telling me He would say we should be, quote: "killing all the wicked whores, and faggots, and witches, and adulterers, and pagans, and idol worshippers, etc."?

Really? You are not even in the right city let alone in the ballpark. Jesus came honest and firm, but never hateful or murderous. You think He taught what you are calling for here? Really? Really???? He didn't, His mighty Name is so far above that level, you don't think a better answer is to proclaim His mighty word and let His power do what it does, you know "His will be done on earth as it is in heaven" and all that? I understand this can manifest itself in different ways for different people, but it's all for Him, for His glory, He is sovereign and I am just called to proclaim His word and the reason for the hope that's in me Him in every way and at every opportunity I'm blessed with. Our God is this just all consuming, radically awesome and the One worthy. :D

Come on me, you think this represents Jesus our King well?
 
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Wow, this is the kind of tyrannical mindset that the RCC had in it's "kill for Jesus" days. If you think our "government" should be rounding up and killing anybody you are no better than these leftist+socialist nut jobs in Congress now spewing nothing but lies to divide, calling others hateful while wanting to take away their free speech. Have you read the bible? Are you really telling me the Lord and God that stepped into His creation, never did anything but the Fathers will for His whole live and for the love of His people, laid down His life so the price to forgive their sin could be paid, the One who prayed "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" while those very people where nailing Him to a cross, you're telling me He would say we should be, quote: "killing all the wicked whores, and faggots, and witches, and adulterers, and pagans, and idol worshippers, etc."?

Really? You are not even in the right city let alone in the ballpark. Jesus came honest and firm, but never hateful or murderous. You think He taught what you are calling for here? Really? Really???? He didn't, His mighty Name is so far above that level, you don't think a better answer is to proclaim His mighty word and let His power do what it does, you know "His will be done on earth as it is in heaven" and all that? I understand this can manifest itself in different ways for different people, but it's all for Him, for His glory, He is sovereign and I am just called to proclaim His word and the reason for the hope that's in me Him in every way and at every opportunity I'm blessed with. Our God is this just all consuming, radically awesome and the One worthy. :D

Come on me, you think this represents Jesus our King well?
I find so very often those least inclined to be so foolish and stupid as myself to carry the word of God to the very midst of the heathens to their face on the very ground. Lol spectacle of angels and men that I am. I bet my bottom dollar you couldn't inform half as many people, nor half as powerful elite to grimmeist scum of the ghetto that they should stop being whores or fags or degenerates or whatever and instead praise Jesus.

You seem kind though, you have much love for man, but in this you forget what Jesus reminded Peter as Satan tried sifting Peter as wheat and making him rebuke the very Lord Jesus himself and nearly blaspheme. And of course Peter would learn in time after the crucifixion and resurrection and really just write two of the most concise letter in the Bible that speak of the hellfire and damnation awaiting the wicked and us eternally praising Jesus.

As for Jesus

Luke 13:25-28

25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.

27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
 

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See I don't think we "have" to repent and ask forgiveness, I think we "will", but only because He has changed our hearts and we are now ABLE to want this. This is also why He gets all glory and credit when we do repent and fall at His feet, not in fear, but because it honestly hurts now when I know I've sinned and fallen short. Before I could justify everything and forget about it as soon as I thought of something else, but not not. Now I WANT to obey, but again only by His power, and believe He will lose NONE that the Father has given Him, so I do agree with DC as far as knowing I can not lose salvation, and don't want to. I honestly believe the truth lies in the middle, "both and", not "either or".
If I am correctly understand, you believe every time we sin, we will ask forgiveness?

What is the different between we have to and we will?

Both of them are ask forgiveness isn't it?
See I don't think we "have" to repent and ask forgiveness, I think we "will", but only because He has changed our hearts and we are now ABLE to want this. This is also why He gets all glory and credit when we do repent and fall at His feet, not in fear, but because it honestly hurts now when I know I've sinned and fallen short. Before I could justify everything and forget about it as soon as I thought of something else, but not not. Now I WANT to obey, but again only by His power, and believe He will lose NONE that the Father has given Him, so I do agree with DC as far as knowing I can not lose salvation, and don't want to. I honestly believe the truth lies in the middle, "both and", not "either or".
Seem to me you believe we automatically ask forgiveness because Jesus in us will make us ask forgiveness when we do sin.

I understand your logic but I do not think we lose our freedom when we accept Him.

Yes we volunteerly submit our freedom when we accept Him, but I believe we still have a chance to do our free will

For example, after we accept Him we still capable of doing sin.

Go do allready change our heart but why I still capable doing sin?

God in us not teach us doing sin but our free will did.

So I believe we still have a free will after accepting Him. Still have a choice, to do sin or to do His will.

That why I believe we may lose our salvation, yes Jesus will remind us to do His will but if we walk away not His false.

Can you imagine in the last judgement when Jesus say depart from me because you not accept me

And this people reply: not my false, I not accept you because the Father not chose me.

About the verse you talking about, I believe you talking about

John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

To me this verse simply mean Jesus welcome all that come to ZHim

And I believe a Father not randomly give to the Son, bible say there is criterial to be chose by Father

John 3:16

Whosoever believe will be save

So I believe Father give whosoever believe to the Son
 

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It is true Some preach Christ out of envy and strife, some out of goodwill:

Phillipians 1:15

Read on....
 

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I find so very often those least inclined to be so foolish and stupid as myself to carry the word of God to the very midst of the heathens to their face on the very ground. Lol spectacle of angels and men that I am. I bet my bottom dollar you couldn't inform half as many people, nor half as powerful elite to grimmeist scum of the ghetto that they should stop being whores or fags or degenerates or whatever and instead praise Jesus.

You seem kind though, you have much love for man, but in this you forget what Jesus reminded Peter as Satan tried sifting Peter as wheat and making him rebuke the very Lord Jesus himself and nearly blaspheme. And of course Peter would learn in time after the crucifixion and resurrection and really just write two of the most concise letter in the Bible that speak of the hellfire and damnation awaiting the wicked and us eternally praising Jesus.

As for Jesus

Luke 13:25-28

25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.

27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
Wow you don't struggle with self esteem issues at all do you? First thank you for the kind words, I very much appreciate them and I'm not trying to sell you short, or minimize your importance or value here at all, but you seem to see a lot resting on your shoulders here that does not belong on them. The way you stand for whats right is awesome, praise God for men willing to stand for His truth, but you are overly and aggressively offensive, seemingly on purpose for some reason, at least from my perspective, and this is just a fruitless exercise and only serves to turn people away.
Please understand I am by NO means saying to sacrifice truth for feeling, at all. EVER. But speaking as former "grimmeist scum", I can NEVER doubt the power of God to work ANYWHERE, and I know what He has commanded me to do, and I testify of this power to draw people to it by His grace and mighty power. That does not include people being rounded up by men, to be systematically exterminated, in my opinion of course. I am open to being show chapter and verse if I've missed it somewhere though. I just felt compelled to speak (type) this to you, but I can see and appreciate you passion for calling sin sin, but I have found that it' has a lot to do with how you go about sharing it.

I was not here just trying to debate you forever or anything like that, and again I truly appreciate the way you responded and hope you have a good day in Jesus name. :D:D
 

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If I am correctly understand, you believe every time we sin, we will ask forgiveness?

What is the different between we have to and we will?

Both of them are ask forgiveness isn't it?
I really thought I could answer everything by answering this.

I have to say ultimately in result, no there is no difference, I do believe that was my point with the whole "it's not either/or it's more like both/and" thing. It's really just a difference in perspective and as long as the goal is to glorify our King, then it's whatever then. :cool:
 

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Everyone in the world will go to heaven if they ask for forgiveness and invite the Holy Spirit to live inside to comfort and guide them on their spiritual journey.
Yep, only for those who accept Him.
 
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Wow you don't struggle with self esteem issues at all do you? First thank you for the kind words, I very much appreciate them and I'm not trying to sell you short, or minimize your importance or value here at all, but you seem to see a lot resting on your shoulders here that does not belong on them. The way you stand for whats right is awesome, praise God for men willing to stand for His truth, but you are overly and aggressively offensive, seemingly on purpose for some reason, at least from my perspective, and this is just a fruitless exercise and only serves to turn people away.
Please understand I am by NO means saying to sacrifice truth for feeling, at all. EVER. But speaking as former "grimmeist scum", I can NEVER doubt the power of God to work ANYWHERE, and I know what He has commanded me to do, and I testify of this power to draw people to it by His grace and mighty power. That does not include people being rounded up by men, to be systematically exterminated, in my opinion of course. I am open to being show chapter and verse if I've missed it somewhere though. I just felt compelled to speak (type) this to you, but I can see and appreciate you passion for calling sin sin, but I have found that it' has a lot to do with how you go about sharing it.

I was not here just trying to debate you forever or anything like that, and again I truly appreciate the way you responded and hope you have a good day in Jesus name. :D:D
Lol oh how I am the spectacle of men and angels alike, praise Jesus.