A Dearth of the Word
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Really? Which scripture is twisted? I think only the scriptures that managed to stick in your tiny little mind. Now that's par for the course. 
I think they stuck sideways. Just bang your head on the floor a few times, you'll feel better.
I think they stuck sideways. Just bang your head on the floor a few times, you'll feel better.
Really? Which scripture is twisted? I think only the scriptures that managed to stick in your tiny little mind. Now that's par for the course.
I think they stuck sideways. Just bang your head on the floor a few times, you'll feel better.
I think they stuck sideways. Just bang your head on the floor a few times, you'll feel better.
Answer? A biblical mind would.
You're talking of attacking others views on Scriptures? Wow, weren't you just in a thread telling another person his teachings are demonic?
Yes.
And now you're calling others even more crude names, suggesting their minds are small &c. Yes, your daily practice is to do just that, it's a lifestyle.
A biblically Christian mind is attempting to show you your errors, sir. Several on here have attempted to help you with this and you resort to name calling and attacks.
You're talking of attacking others views on Scriptures? Wow, weren't you just in a thread telling another person his teachings are demonic?
Yes.
And now you're calling others even more crude names, suggesting their minds are small &c. Yes, your daily practice is to do just that, it's a lifestyle.
A biblically Christian mind is attempting to show you your errors, sir. Several on here have attempted to help you with this and you resort to name calling and attacks.
I would like this question answered that I posted in a different healing thread, by those that believe God always heals if your faith is strong enough, or if you could have a greater understanding of His promise of healing and prosperity.
WHY AREN'T YOU OUT THERE DAY AND NIGHT HEALING PEOPLE?!
Jesus healed some that couldn't even ask to be healed. The guy that had the legion of demons for instance. Others he raised from the DEAD. So they obviously couldn't ask to raised from the dead, or have faith to be raised.
In those cases OTHERS asked or Jesus simply took it upon Himself to heal or raise from the dead.
The point is, those of you who believe the Lord will heal EVERY one EVERY time IF you simply believe hard enough, WHY ARENT YOU OUT THERE DAY AND NIGHT HEALING PEOPLE!
Why is YOUR faith so weak that you can't speak a word of HEALING for this woman's daughter?
The Lord has a purpose for His children. We have no idea how He will be Glorified by illnesses and injuries, but I. Trust that He has MY best interests at heart in every situation in life.
I'm asking you brothers and sisters in Christ to please stop hurting others with this doctrine. Love Ed
WHY AREN'T YOU OUT THERE DAY AND NIGHT HEALING PEOPLE?!
Jesus healed some that couldn't even ask to be healed. The guy that had the legion of demons for instance. Others he raised from the DEAD. So they obviously couldn't ask to raised from the dead, or have faith to be raised.
In those cases OTHERS asked or Jesus simply took it upon Himself to heal or raise from the dead.
The point is, those of you who believe the Lord will heal EVERY one EVERY time IF you simply believe hard enough, WHY ARENT YOU OUT THERE DAY AND NIGHT HEALING PEOPLE!
Why is YOUR faith so weak that you can't speak a word of HEALING for this woman's daughter?
The Lord has a purpose for His children. We have no idea how He will be Glorified by illnesses and injuries, but I. Trust that He has MY best interests at heart in every situation in life.
I'm asking you brothers and sisters in Christ to please stop hurting others with this doctrine. Love Ed
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There are people on this forum who are obviously not interested in the truth. They have a set of ideas based on self, and the joy of chopping everybody but themselves to pieces. preacher4truth has no idea what truth is, SovereignGrace is sovereign unto himself and a few others. So I tell it to them straight. If they don't like it, these pharisees can put me on ignore and I do OH I Do wish they would. I for one do not need their junk...If I wasn't such a nice guy I would call it crap. As I said before I speak straight. I'm not a diplomat and If don't like it. Don't read my posts. I'll tell you my thoughts and if you don't like how I think, tough. You deal with it.
I'm assuming you are talking to me? If so....You go where you are sent. You minister as you are directed. You do not run ahead of the Lord and jump all over things.
God does not always heal if your faith is strong enough. Simple as that. God always heals. Its done. You WERE healed. 1Pete 2:24 If you want to believe that, you can reach out and take it. That is the Word. Healing is done. Healing belongs to you. Its yours. Faith has nothing to do with that...Faith only is for taking it,because if you don't believe its already yours, you won't reach out and take it. ¿entiende?
God does not always heal if your faith is strong enough. Simple as that. God always heals. Its done. You WERE healed. 1Pete 2:24 If you want to believe that, you can reach out and take it. That is the Word. Healing is done. Healing belongs to you. Its yours. Faith has nothing to do with that...Faith only is for taking it,because if you don't believe its already yours, you won't reach out and take it. ¿entiende?
Hi Penn., I did answer your question to the best of my ability in the last thread you asked the same question on but you either didn't read it or didn't like it and dismissed it or it didn't register. Often our brains don't register and we don't hear what we totally disagree with here on these forums on CC and also in our daily lives. For that reason I am so very thankful Jesus saves to the uttermost when our human meat brains get in the way of the truth.
That all our sins past, present and future were all forgiven at the time we got saved. For that reason we are no longer judged and have nothing to fear from our Father because of Christ. We are saved and sealed because it's true., our brains and our abilities without the Holy Spirit leading us to be daily abiding on the Vine we are "devour able" The Bible warns us that the devil goes about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. If we are not aware of who we are and what we have in Christ., we will be devour able.
And I've discovered it's not a one time KNOWING. It's a daily KNOWING the truth and being re reminded again and again and hearing and hearing and hearing because we humans will forget. We are but dust. Thankfully., Jesus paid for us to be dealt with according to His grace. God forgives us at all times because we are IN Christ. We are in Him but we don't always walk that truth out. Yet we are not condemned by Him because we fail. We are covered because our Great High Priest 'ever maketh intercession for us.... He lives after the power of an endless life.
I am not as cut and dry as Denadii when it comes to explaining this topic. But I agree with what he has said that we have already been given healing in the atonement. We are to hold the ground given to us by Jesus Himself. We are not the sick trying to be healed. We are the healed holding the ground Jesus gave us and that satan tries to steal from us the way he did with Adam and Eve.
I'm not sure why you and so many other Christians here cower and fall down when challenged to discuss why you hold to the things you hold to about not being healed. Since you BELIEVE there is no healing in the atonement and you BELIEVE God loves you and is not healing you for some higher reason., some higher call so you will grow in your faith? there should be no "hurting others with this doctrine". You should be joyful and happy and glad to suffer.
But I understand this contradicts the goodness of God in Christ AND IT SHOULD. Because the One who was sent by the Father who loves us died on the cross and gave us so great a salvation did not send the very same sin and sickness back on us again that He overcame while on the cross shedding His blood for. That stuff comes from our arch enemy satan and his cohorts who use confusion about what we believe about God and the Bible and Jesus and ourselves daily to attack and kill us.
he is the one who comes to KILL STEAL AND DESTROY.... NOT GOD. God sent His Son into the world not to condemn the world but that the world through HIM might be saved. He brings healing in His wings. He gives us life and that MORE ABUNDANTLY. He is always good. And God does not want us to call evil = Good and Good = evil. Yet persons do this all the time saying death...sickness and disease is "good" when in fact it is all evil and Jesus defeated it at the cross and wants us to believe Him.
I could say you are hurting others with your doctrine Penn but we hurt ourselves when we don't know the truth so I would not add more to yours or anyone else's pain and anguish. I do understand that you and so many others here on CC and in the world of believers do not believe in healing in the atonement like the other so many brothers and sisters in Christ do., who do go about healing and preaching about healing. I'm not offended by your difference of beliefs in this matter. I do however pray like John in 3John 2 that you too would be healed and prosper the way your soul is prospering. That you would come to the understanding of the truth and be healed in every way.
But again., it TAKES TIME for us humans to hear the truth and to be convinced IN OUR OWN MINDS. That is what we are called to do... be convinced in our own minds so we can stand regardless of what someone may say to us about the Bible and their own interpretations vs ours. No one of us believers has totally ARRIVED to know alllll the truth we need. We need to WALK IT OUT and by faith to receive all that Jesus has died to give us while we are here and are called to receive it by faith.
Only here will we have to walk by faith and not by sight. When we get to heaven we no longer will fight the good fight of faith. It's only here we have to be pilgrims in this pilgrim land. We are more than conquerors. We are not THE CONQUEROR but He has made us more than conquerors because we gain what HE died to give us. I'm going to learn how to take it by faith and if there are others including you who don't believe I cannot condemn or force you to believe. I can only walk my own Christian life and abide on the Vine for myself. He loves us the same and He condemns no one of His children.
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There is really too much here for me to unpack right now. So just some of it. I completely understand that ALL my sins have been forgiven, and I don't fear judgement from my Heavenly Father. Not sure what that has to do with the question at hand that you DID NOT ANSWER.
Why aren't you healing people all day?
Also, it is not about being joyful in persecutions, sickness, sufferings, or even death. It is about loving, trusting, AND being joyful in ALL situations, and that includes blessings of all kinds as well.
Why aren't you healing people all day?
You believe the promises of Scripture that you can heal. You have achieved a higher level understanding of the promises of God than others. Your wish is that we would attain that higher level. Well, why aren't YOU healing people?
It is also insulting and false to say that I don't believe the Lord heals. However, I am not going to usurp His sovereignty. I am going to trust that ALL things He will work to my good.
Of course this will come off as condescending, but I assure you I don't mean it as such. Someone has deluded you sister. If you take away the window dressing, your posts absolutely say that people aren't healed because they don't believe (no faith) OR they haven't achieved a higher plane of understanding Scripture. That's the truth.
I get no joy out of making a post like this. It bothers me. But I'm praying the Lord will break you of this delusion you are under.
I understand that you posted this to joaniemarie but I will address this one thing. As a question. You said "your posts absolutely say that people aren't healed because they don't believe (no faith) OR they haven't achieved a higher plane of understanding Scripture." Why is this always the reason that people claim was the reason they were not healed? Or rather, you were accused of this? I heard that once or twice, but, if you can believe it, it was not in a WoF church. It was in an ordinary crackers and cheese church. The reason people do not get healed is because they do NOT believe that God heals today. They have the faith for it. Each one of us has been given the measure of faith. Romans 12:3 As the mans said. "Plant it. It'll grow" That's your choice whether or not you will believe God.
Most Christians go by seeing is believing. But the truth is Believing is seeing. When you believe it, you will see it. So....Choose to believe it.
Most Christians go by seeing is believing. But the truth is Believing is seeing. When you believe it, you will see it. So....Choose to believe it.