Abomination of Desecration

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This makes me think of something that came to my mind a bit a go. I had spotted an idol of the Buddha and my spirit burned with rage inside me. I took Buddha into my hands and lifted him up. Then in a wave of total fury I threw to the ground smashing him to pieces. I ground the shards of the idol into dust with my heel while saying to him "thou are not a god!" three times and glorifying the Lord saying "praise Jesus!" three times. I then collected the dust, spit upon it, and threw it away.

That night I opened the Bible and interestingly came upon the book of Daniel. The Book of Daniel makes plain that the abomination of desolation will be a fake god that the fathers knew not. The final false religion is not yet revealed, but it will not be anything any of us can ever think of since it will not be a false religion that has been done before or a remix of an old religion. Some people think islam is the abomination, but islam is a remix of arab polytheism. Some people think the new age movement is the abomination, but the new age stuff is just Asiatic witchcraft, it is not new. Not that any of those thigns are good, but all are still evil wicked demon worshipping false religions whose adherents deserve to die a thousand times over. It's an important warning God wants us to know that the final Beast religion is a total lie, but a different lie than what has been told so far in tragic history's course.

Something wicked but diverse and different and mixed comes our way, it is not far off. We must pray to endure, all of us, myself included, hard times on the horizon, we must praise Jesus.
 
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Now this is just total nonsense which goes against Scripture. Looks like you are getting more and more confused every day (instead of the opposite).

1. Jesus is indeed the eternal Son of God. Which means that He is God.

2. The Man Christ Jesus is indeed in Heaven, as the one and only Mediator (Daysman) between God and men.

3. We may walk by faith and not by sight at present, but that will all change after the Resurrection/Rapture and the Second Coming of Christ.
#3 I would agree the former things will not be remembered or ever come to mind.
 

Dino246

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#3 I would agree the former things will not be remembered or ever come to mind.
It's rather disingenuous to ignore serious criticisms and instead focus a minor matter on which to agree. That's a tactic of the JW's.
 
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It's rather disingenuous to ignore serious criticisms and instead focus a minor matter on which to agree. That's a tactic of the JW's.
I'm seriously not ignoring and what tactic?
 

Dino246

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I'm seriously not ignoring and what tactic?
The tactic is identified clearly in the first sentence of my previous post: "ignore serious criticisms and instead focus on a minor matter on which to agree". Jehovah's Witnesses do exactly that in an attempt to trick Christians into accepting their corrupt ideas.

Please take a course in basic English; it will help with your reading comprehension and probably with how you read the Bible.
 

RickStudies

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They don't come back in person they represent the witness of the word both working as one. The law written signified as Moses and the prophets the witness to the law Elijah .They have no body to come back in . their body of death having long ago returned to the dust.

Those are visions as thoughts inspired by God. God is not served by human hands in that way. And the incident with Peter was negative it teaches the opposite of what many that hope in the flesh hope for. Catholics in particular that must worship Peter a line of those that lord it over the faith of the non venerable pew Catholics requiring they seek the approval of men seen or they lose their foundation of lording it over another's understanding.

Peter started a rumor as a lie qualified as a oral trdaditon of men.( fathers)

Jesus said in effect. . If every time he had to expose a lie of man as a oral tradition .The whole world not be able to hold the book of lies. It made the oral tradition of Peter without effect. Rather than what Peter hoped for. That men who believe John would never die . Never could happen .Its appointed for all men to die and then receive a new body not of flesh and blood or never rise to new spirit life..
Enoch and Elijah are two witnesses who can come back. Neither of these men died but were both taken alive by God.
 
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The tactic is identified clearly in the first sentence of my previous post: "ignore serious criticisms and instead focus on a minor matter on which to agree". Jehovah's Witnesses do exactly that in an attempt to trick Christians into accepting their corrupt ideas.

Please take a course in basic English; it will help with your reading comprehension and probably with how you read the Bible.
Ok so now I am trying to trick people by offering corrupt ideas" What makes them corrupt .. not focusing on minor matters on which to agree?

How do we hear God by reading seeing you say my level is low ?

How do you measure another's understanding?

How would someone's literal understanding improve the spiritual unseen understanding hid in parables for instance?
 
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Enoch and Elijah are two witnesses who can come back. Neither of these men died but were both taken alive by God.

All who die in Christ have new spirit life. Their corrupted flesh is long gone. it was a vision not actual flesh and blood as if it could enter heaven.

learn what it means to walk by faith then a person will not carry out the desire of flesh putting a hope in it.

Peter tried to start that kind of rumor as a oral tradition of men that John would remain alive as if his flesh was not corrupted . . . .Seeing some value in a body of death. Even Jesus said of his own flesh and blood it could never profit. Learn how visions are used.
 
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3. Since there is no temple in Jerusalem at this time, there is no Holy Place either. However, many Jews in Israel are seriously engaged in preparing for the erection of another temple in Jerusalem. And while it may appear to be an impossibility at the moment, prophecy must be fulfilled. Then there will literally be a Holy Place in Jerusalem as prophesied by Daniel and confirmed by Christ.
That is where the error is made. The Holy place is not seen. The place of the fathers hidden glory. The place of faith.

The faithless Jew turned it upside down. The abomination of desolation is represented by Kings seen in Israel it remained until the time of reformation. When Christ said it is finished It made the idol place to no effect
4. The Abomination of Desolation will in fact be an idol -- the image of the Beast, the Antichrist. And the Antichrist himself will LITERALLY sit in a LITERAL temple and LITERALLY claim to be God.
The Abomination of Desolation was the temporal place that God gave over the unbelieving Jews as antichrists to not do . . .demanding they have a king like the surrounding pagan nations refusing to walk by faith as literalist ... Again, the reformation came.

The wailing wall that is left still serves it purpose to deceive men into walking by sight. The true holy place is not of this world.
 

Josefnospam

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The son of man is God and the only way to salvation is to believe that. The world did not and put him to death for claiming he was God. Seems many are still doing that today.
I doubt this will change your mind but at least you have heard the truth.. God bless you
 

p_rehbein

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Some folks will go to great lengths to try and explain their denial of the Holy Trinity. Yet the entire Gospel of John proclaims it to be Truth. I'm gonna go with the Word!