Acts 2.38 is to Israel not gentiles
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Acts 11 .
18¶When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.
18¶When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.
Repentance unto life, though extremely necessary, isn't the same as discipleship (training up in the way).
It's simply a reinforcement of the two pillars that run throughout the NT even to the last book:
1) faith unto salvation (belief)
2) to do good works (obedience)
1) justification
2) sanctification
It's simply a reinforcement of the two pillars that run throughout the NT even to the last book:
1) faith unto salvation (belief)
2) to do good works (obedience)
1) justification
2) sanctification
Excuse me, but Jesus referred to the Gentiles as sheep and as I pointed out.
"I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd."
Gentile believers (other sheep) are those whom Christ would call for the most part, through Paul. But let's revisit the scripture in question, shall we.
"Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”
The original OP claimed that this scripture was for Israel/Jews only. So let's fact check that:
"Repent and be baptized"
Do you think that the above is only for Israel? I could site many, many scriptures to the Gentiles with the same command to repent and be baptized. All those "for all who are far off—whom the Lord our God will call" is referring to all other people other than Jews. Here is a post on this very subject from 'GotQuestions.com, which is in line with what I believe:
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To understand who the “other sheep” from John 10:16 are, we must begin with the context of the verse and examine the whole passage. We know from many Bible passages that sheep are a symbol of true believers who follow Christ, their true Shepherd. His sheep hear His voice and follow Him. If He says that there are “other” sheep, then we must identify the original sheep that the “others” are different from.
Beginning in chapter 9 of John, we find Jesus discoursing at great length with the Pharisees after He healed a man who was born blind. He compares the man’s simple faith with the unbelief of the Pharisees and condemns them for their willful spiritual blindness. He begins by denouncing the false shepherds of Israel—the blind, self-appointed leaders who drew the people away from the true knowledge and kingdom of their Messiah (John 9:39-41). Then in chapter 10, He explains at great length the nature of true sheep, those who follow the Good Shepherd, sent and appointed by God. True sheep are those who listen to the voice of the Shepherd (v. 3) and follow Him (v. 4) and know Him (v. 14). He can only be speaking here of the true sheep of Israel because, up to that point, His ministry was confined to the sheep of Israel.
In verse 16, Jesus refers to the “other sheep,” and those can only be sheep that are outside of Israel, in other words, Gentiles. But the Gentiles who would follow Him are no less sheep than the true sheep of Israel. In fact, Jesus makes it clear that the Gentile sheep would also hear His voice and follow Him, and, eventually, there would be only one flock and one Shepherd. This is the mystery of the universal body of Christ, the church, which Paul refers to in Ephesians 3:6, “This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.” A mystery in Scripture is usually something not revealed previously, and this mystery—one universal church with both Jews and Gentiles brought together in one body in the Messiah—was so shocking to the Pharisees that they accused Jesus of being a demon-possessed lunatic (John 10:20-21).
Paul’s commission from Christ was to “preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ” (Ephesians 3:8) because the Gentiles, the “other sheep,” needed to be brought into the fold of the true Shepherd. Paul explains in Romans 11:16-36 the mystery of the church by using the imagery of a branch (the Gentiles) being grafted into the tree (Israel). Israel has been temporarily set aside until the “full number of the Gentiles has come in” (Romans 11:25). This is occurring now in the Church Age, but eventually both Jews and Gentiles will live in glorious harmony in the Millennial Kingdom and then in eternity when all true sheep will follow their Shepherd forever as one body.
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"I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd."
Gentile believers (other sheep) are those whom Christ would call for the most part, through Paul. But let's revisit the scripture in question, shall we.
"Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”
The original OP claimed that this scripture was for Israel/Jews only. So let's fact check that:
"Repent and be baptized"
Do you think that the above is only for Israel? I could site many, many scriptures to the Gentiles with the same command to repent and be baptized. All those "for all who are far off—whom the Lord our God will call" is referring to all other people other than Jews. Here is a post on this very subject from 'GotQuestions.com, which is in line with what I believe:
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To understand who the “other sheep” from John 10:16 are, we must begin with the context of the verse and examine the whole passage. We know from many Bible passages that sheep are a symbol of true believers who follow Christ, their true Shepherd. His sheep hear His voice and follow Him. If He says that there are “other” sheep, then we must identify the original sheep that the “others” are different from.
Beginning in chapter 9 of John, we find Jesus discoursing at great length with the Pharisees after He healed a man who was born blind. He compares the man’s simple faith with the unbelief of the Pharisees and condemns them for their willful spiritual blindness. He begins by denouncing the false shepherds of Israel—the blind, self-appointed leaders who drew the people away from the true knowledge and kingdom of their Messiah (John 9:39-41). Then in chapter 10, He explains at great length the nature of true sheep, those who follow the Good Shepherd, sent and appointed by God. True sheep are those who listen to the voice of the Shepherd (v. 3) and follow Him (v. 4) and know Him (v. 14). He can only be speaking here of the true sheep of Israel because, up to that point, His ministry was confined to the sheep of Israel.
In verse 16, Jesus refers to the “other sheep,” and those can only be sheep that are outside of Israel, in other words, Gentiles. But the Gentiles who would follow Him are no less sheep than the true sheep of Israel. In fact, Jesus makes it clear that the Gentile sheep would also hear His voice and follow Him, and, eventually, there would be only one flock and one Shepherd. This is the mystery of the universal body of Christ, the church, which Paul refers to in Ephesians 3:6, “This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.” A mystery in Scripture is usually something not revealed previously, and this mystery—one universal church with both Jews and Gentiles brought together in one body in the Messiah—was so shocking to the Pharisees that they accused Jesus of being a demon-possessed lunatic (John 10:20-21).
Paul’s commission from Christ was to “preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ” (Ephesians 3:8) because the Gentiles, the “other sheep,” needed to be brought into the fold of the true Shepherd. Paul explains in Romans 11:16-36 the mystery of the church by using the imagery of a branch (the Gentiles) being grafted into the tree (Israel). Israel has been temporarily set aside until the “full number of the Gentiles has come in” (Romans 11:25). This is occurring now in the Church Age, but eventually both Jews and Gentiles will live in glorious harmony in the Millennial Kingdom and then in eternity when all true sheep will follow their Shepherd forever as one body.
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You are correct in that Peter doesn't use the word 'Gentiles' but rather described them by saying "and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call."
Jesus is first speaking about Jews referring to them as sheep. Then He says:
"And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd."
The original sheep that He was speaking about is Israel, therefore, the "other sheep" is referring to those other than Israel, ergo, Gentiles. Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles whom Jesus sent.
See post #230
Jesus is first speaking about Jews referring to them as sheep. Then He says:
"And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd."
The original sheep that He was speaking about is Israel, therefore, the "other sheep" is referring to those other than Israel, ergo, Gentiles. Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles whom Jesus sent.
See post #230
Think about how far all these Jews and proselytes have travelled to attend the Jewish feast of pentacost.
Acts 2.1
1¶And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
5¶And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every NATION under heaven.
9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
So the promise that they heard was also for their children and for their fellow Jews in respective nations .
Acts 2.1
1¶And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
5¶And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every NATION under heaven.
9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
So the promise that they heard was also for their children and for their fellow Jews in respective nations .
No sir! That is an erroneous assumption. Originally the Lord refers to sheep as referring to Israel, then He says, "I have other sheep that are not of this fold." "Not of this fold" would infer being other than Israel.
However, this is the end of this discussion. You can believe whatever you like. I just happen to know that repentance and baptism is required whether Jew or Gentile and not just for Jew only. I also know that "those far off, all whom the Lord will call" is everyone other than Israel.
However, this is the end of this discussion. You can believe whatever you like. I just happen to know that repentance and baptism is required whether Jew or Gentile and not just for Jew only. I also know that "those far off, all whom the Lord will call" is everyone other than Israel.
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