All 'biblical' translations are biased!
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Simply sad for you ;-(
For "The Father and GOD" of The Messiah and His brethren, HE yet communes with His children, and provides and reveals all that is needful!
The efforts of you, and those liken unto you who but serve "the father of lies" will always fail!
For quite simply, a lie never was and never will be, so those who have received "a love of The Truth" will prevail in spite of religion, all of which is of your father, "the father of lies" ;-(
Yet HOPE IS!
For TRUTH IS!
Father Help! and HE does.......
For "The Father and GOD" of The Messiah and His brethren, HE yet communes with His children, and provides and reveals all that is needful!
The efforts of you, and those liken unto you who but serve "the father of lies" will always fail!
For quite simply, a lie never was and never will be, so those who have received "a love of The Truth" will prevail in spite of religion, all of which is of your father, "the father of lies" ;-(
Yet HOPE IS!
For TRUTH IS!
Father Help! and HE does.......
I'll have to know what you need excusing of before I am able to excuse you.
It has everything to do with interpretation of scripture.
The scriptures are spiritually discerned and you have no spiritual discernment until you are given it from Above. You have to be Saved from the thinking of this world. You have to be given a new perspective.
It has everything to do with interpretation of scripture.
The scriptures are spiritually discerned and you have no spiritual discernment until you are given it from Above. You have to be Saved from the thinking of this world. You have to be given a new perspective.
"the inerrancy of scripture"? inerrancy = lack of error, infaliiblity
Pagan catholic and christian dogma!
Was once held captive by such strong delusion and then:
"Before the cock crew once" bore witness of in Matthew and Luke.
"Before the cock crow twice" bore witness of in Mark.
And there are many more contradictions in what pagan catholicism and christianity call their 'bible'.
"the inerrancy of scripture"?
But a teaching of "the father of lies"!
Yet, thankfully Our Father, HE can yet reveal all things unto HIS children in spite of the perverseness of pagan catholicism and her harlot christian daughters, all of which have their portion in the systems that are of the god of this wicked, evil world!
"Come Out of her, MY people!"
Father Help! and HE does.......
Pagan catholic and christian dogma!
Was once held captive by such strong delusion and then:
"Before the cock crew once" bore witness of in Matthew and Luke.
"Before the cock crow twice" bore witness of in Mark.
And there are many more contradictions in what pagan catholicism and christianity call their 'bible'.
"the inerrancy of scripture"?
But a teaching of "the father of lies"!
Yet, thankfully Our Father, HE can yet reveal all things unto HIS children in spite of the perverseness of pagan catholicism and her harlot christian daughters, all of which have their portion in the systems that are of the god of this wicked, evil world!
"Come Out of her, MY people!"
Father Help! and HE does.......
Yes! i did ;-(
i believe i let the avatar(my eyes are not the best and i did not see the words on it) influence me, and then most certainly i did misrepresent your words ;-(
i apologize....... please forgive me.......
However, i don't believe the problem was with the men who recorded what they had received, but with those who copied and/or translated that which was received.
And i do believe that Our Father, HE can reveal the original intent of the scriptures no matter the efforts of those who would willfully pervert the scriptures or the fallibility of man in copying and translating them.
Father Help! and HE does.......
i believe i let the avatar(my eyes are not the best and i did not see the words on it) influence me, and then most certainly i did misrepresent your words ;-(
i apologize....... please forgive me.......
However, i don't believe the problem was with the men who recorded what they had received, but with those who copied and/or translated that which was received.
And i do believe that Our Father, HE can reveal the original intent of the scriptures no matter the efforts of those who would willfully pervert the scriptures or the fallibility of man in copying and translating them.
Father Help! and HE does.......
Apology accepted.
I do agree with you on scripture. And I think a great deal of my problem is with the transcribers and those who have made 'adjustments' to the bible through history. The original text itself is generally more clear I believe. But there is still a measure of what people were able to express through their inspirations.
I don't question the message, not at all. But at times, I do question the delivery.
After accessing the link you provide on you tube i feel i must question?
Actually seems i am to post my whole testimony having to do with such, for i no longer have my portion with the "we" or the"our" in the video.
i will also will begin a new thread with the following, for the brethen of The Messiah are exhorted to, not once, not twice or thrice but many times in many ways to:
"Love Not The World!"!
So it is that the brethren of The Messiah have taken heed unto The Call to "Come Out of her, MY people"!
And we no longer have our portion with those who follow "the broad way that leads to destruction".
(Revelation 18:4, Matthew 7:13)
Thankfully we are but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth" for our "citizenship(Life) is in Heaven".
(Hebrews 11:13, 1Peter 2:11, Phillippians 3:20)
We have "Come Out" of this wicked world and it's systems of religion, and have taken heed unto that exhortation to:
“Love Not The World!”
For "we know that we are of GOD and the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one”.......(I John5:19)
And John also testified, “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world will pass away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of The Only True GOD will abide for ever.”(IJohn2:15-17)
The Messiah testified, “If you were of the world, the world would love it’s own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said unto you, the servant is not greater than his Master. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also.” (John15:19-20)
James testified, “Where do wars and fighting among you come from? Do they not come of your lusts that war in your members? You lust, and have not: you kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: you fight and war yet you have not, because you ask not. You ask, and receive not, because you ask amiss, that you may consume it upon your lusts. You adulterers and adulteresses, don’t you know that friendship with the world is to be at enmity with The Only True GOD? Therefore whoever will be a friend of the world is the enemy of The Only True GOD.” (James 4:1-4)
The Messiah testified, “The world cannot hate you; but the world hates Me, because I testify that the works of this world are evil.” (John 7:7)” And Paul testified, “The Messiah gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of The Only True God, Our Father.”(Gal 1:4)
The Messiah testified: “If the world hates you know that it hated Me before it hated you.”(John 5:18) Truly, Truly, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abides alone: but if it die it brings forth much fruit. He that loves his life in this world shall lose it; and he that hates his life in this world shall have it unto Life Eternal.” (John 12:24-25)
John testified: “Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hates you.” (I John 3:13)
James testified, “Whoever would be a friend of this world is the enemy of GOD!” (James4:4)
"Come Out of her, MY people"!
"Come Out" of the systems that are of this wicked world, and especially it's systems of religion, for they but carry on the legacy of the pharisee's ;-(
Global warming, polluted air, land and waters; toxic wastes, sexual perversion, evil inventions of destruction, systems of religion, lies, deception, delusion, greed, hate, carnal warfare, dis-ease(no-peace),,etc,, are all destructive processes that have their root in “the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life” which caused Eve to fall victim to 'd'evil, and which continue to fuel the fires of mankind’s “imag”ination ;-(
"Come out from among them and be separate"!
Why have your portion with those who are destroying Creation(air, water, land, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that which is Spirit(Truth, Light, Life, Love, Peace, Grace, Faith,,,, All that is Truly GOOD)! 
The brethren of The Messiah have "Come Out!"
So it is that we "Love Not The World" and choose to remain but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth", for we have realized that our "citizenship(Life) is in Heaven" and that soon, and very soon, we will be taken Home, Home at last!
Till then:
Father Help! and HE does.......
Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth......(1 John 5:19)
Truth IS, a lie never was and is not.......
Abide in Truth....... francis
Actually seems i am to post my whole testimony having to do with such, for i no longer have my portion with the "we" or the"our" in the video.
i will also will begin a new thread with the following, for the brethen of The Messiah are exhorted to, not once, not twice or thrice but many times in many ways to:
"Love Not The World!"!
So it is that the brethren of The Messiah have taken heed unto The Call to "Come Out of her, MY people"!
And we no longer have our portion with those who follow "the broad way that leads to destruction".
(Revelation 18:4, Matthew 7:13)
Thankfully we are but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth" for our "citizenship(Life) is in Heaven".
(Hebrews 11:13, 1Peter 2:11, Phillippians 3:20)
We have "Come Out" of this wicked world and it's systems of religion, and have taken heed unto that exhortation to:
“Love Not The World!”
For "we know that we are of GOD and the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one”.......(I John5:19)
And John also testified, “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world will pass away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of The Only True GOD will abide for ever.”(IJohn2:15-17)
The Messiah testified, “If you were of the world, the world would love it’s own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said unto you, the servant is not greater than his Master. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also.” (John15:19-20)
James testified, “Where do wars and fighting among you come from? Do they not come of your lusts that war in your members? You lust, and have not: you kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: you fight and war yet you have not, because you ask not. You ask, and receive not, because you ask amiss, that you may consume it upon your lusts. You adulterers and adulteresses, don’t you know that friendship with the world is to be at enmity with The Only True GOD? Therefore whoever will be a friend of the world is the enemy of The Only True GOD.” (James 4:1-4)
The Messiah testified, “The world cannot hate you; but the world hates Me, because I testify that the works of this world are evil.” (John 7:7)” And Paul testified, “The Messiah gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of The Only True God, Our Father.”(Gal 1:4)
The Messiah testified: “If the world hates you know that it hated Me before it hated you.”(John 5:18) Truly, Truly, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abides alone: but if it die it brings forth much fruit. He that loves his life in this world shall lose it; and he that hates his life in this world shall have it unto Life Eternal.” (John 12:24-25)
John testified: “Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hates you.” (I John 3:13)
James testified, “Whoever would be a friend of this world is the enemy of GOD!” (James4:4)
"Come Out of her, MY people"!
"Come Out" of the systems that are of this wicked world, and especially it's systems of religion, for they but carry on the legacy of the pharisee's ;-(
Global warming, polluted air, land and waters; toxic wastes, sexual perversion, evil inventions of destruction, systems of religion, lies, deception, delusion, greed, hate, carnal warfare, dis-ease(no-peace),,etc,, are all destructive processes that have their root in “the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life” which caused Eve to fall victim to 'd'evil, and which continue to fuel the fires of mankind’s “imag”ination ;-(
"Come out from among them and be separate"!
Why have your portion with those who are destroying Creation(air, water, land, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that which is Spirit(Truth, Light, Life, Love, Peace, Grace, Faith,,,, All that is Truly GOOD)! 
The brethren of The Messiah have "Come Out!"
So it is that we "Love Not The World" and choose to remain but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth", for we have realized that our "citizenship(Life) is in Heaven" and that soon, and very soon, we will be taken Home, Home at last!
Till then:
Father Help! and HE does.......
Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth......(1 John 5:19)
Truth IS, a lie never was and is not.......
Abide in Truth....... francis
honest?
"the inerrancy of scripture"? inerrancy = lack of error, infaliiblity
Pagan catholic and christian dogma!
Was once held captive by such strong delusion and then:
"Before the cock crew once" bore witness of in Matthew and Luke.
"Before the cock crow twice" bore witness of in Mark.
And there are many more contradictions in what pagan catholicism and christianity call their 'bible'.
"the inerrancy of scripture"?
But a teaching of "the father of lies"!
Yet, thankfully Our Father, HE can yet reveal all things unto HIS children in spite of the perverseness of pagan catholicism and her harlot christian daughters, all of which have their portion in the systems that are of the god of this wicked, evil world!
"Come Out of her, MY people!"
Father Help! and HE does.......
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"the inerrancy of scripture"? inerrancy = lack of error, infaliiblity
Pagan catholic and christian dogma!
Was once held captive by such strong delusion and then:
"Before the cock crew once" bore witness of in Matthew and Luke.
"Before the cock crow twice" bore witness of in Mark.
And there are many more contradictions in what pagan catholicism and christianity call their 'bible'.
"the inerrancy of scripture"?
But a teaching of "the father of lies"!
Yet, thankfully Our Father, HE can yet reveal all things unto HIS children in spite of the perverseness of pagan catholicism and her harlot christian daughters, all of which have their portion in the systems that are of the god of this wicked, evil world!
"Come Out of her, MY people!"
Father Help! and HE does.......
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the bible is the truth. you are such a sadducee. you evil speak the bible and god but quote the scripture you are against. you put in your profile you are not a christian but you want to teach christianity. you need to get saved first. you are demonic. only the devil talks about god's three witnesses like you.
i am a christian prophet. you wish you were me. i know much of the future. i am a prophet of the tribe of benjamin. i have seen paul the apostle and he is my apostle. i have seen jesus christ that is who tells me the bible i have is true. the holy spirit speaks through me all day. i have 5 gifts of the spirit. the lord most high says to you, thus says the lord, i will judge you ever so severly for my name. has a man ever escaped my hand? you will regret your insults toward me. i will show you mercy and grace and not harden your heart says the lord. repent and read my word and when you love my word i will dwell with you.
When one knows naught but the colored marks written on a dead tree, such a one is a PHARISEE!
"the father of lies", he who is "the god of this world", knows each and every jot and tittle within what his wicked world calls it's 'bible', and all systems of religion serve him.......
As for "Not Christian".
All Thanks and Praise Be Unto The GOD and Father of The Messiah!
For The Faithful have their portion in The Family of "Our Father and GOD", "of WHOM the whole Family in Heaven and ON EARTH is named"! (Eph 3:15)
The brethren of The Messiah, who are "sons of GOD", are in and of The Family of "Our Father and GOD", and so it is that we are but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth", and we have realized that our "citizenship(Life) is in Heaven"?
Now why would "aliens and pilgrims" create a system of religion, or love this world and it's things?
Why would we yet be of those who love their own(self,ego,id,"I") life in and of this wicked, evil world, especially when it is promised that "whoever loves his life in this world will lose it, and whoever hates his life in this world will keep it unto Life Eternal"? (John12:25)
And so it is that we continue to sound The Call of "Our Father and GOD" as we exhort others to "Come Out of her, MY people!"
"Come Out" of the systems that are of this wicked, evil world(babylon) and especially it's systems of religion!
Be of those who "forsake all," "Yes! and their own life also", just as The Messiah did!
Be of those who tarry in, yet are not of, this wicked, evil world!
"Aliens and pilgrims while on the earth" indeed and Truth, for soon, and very soon, we will be taken Home, Home at last!
Till then:
Father Help! and HE does.......
"the father of lies", he who is "the god of this world", knows each and every jot and tittle within what his wicked world calls it's 'bible', and all systems of religion serve him.......
As for "Not Christian".
All Thanks and Praise Be Unto The GOD and Father of The Messiah!
For The Faithful have their portion in The Family of "Our Father and GOD", "of WHOM the whole Family in Heaven and ON EARTH is named"! (Eph 3:15)
The brethren of The Messiah, who are "sons of GOD", are in and of The Family of "Our Father and GOD", and so it is that we are but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth", and we have realized that our "citizenship(Life) is in Heaven"?
Now why would "aliens and pilgrims" create a system of religion, or love this world and it's things?
Why would we yet be of those who love their own(self,ego,id,"I") life in and of this wicked, evil world, especially when it is promised that "whoever loves his life in this world will lose it, and whoever hates his life in this world will keep it unto Life Eternal"? (John12:25)
And so it is that we continue to sound The Call of "Our Father and GOD" as we exhort others to "Come Out of her, MY people!"
"Come Out" of the systems that are of this wicked, evil world(babylon) and especially it's systems of religion!
Be of those who "forsake all," "Yes! and their own life also", just as The Messiah did!
Be of those who tarry in, yet are not of, this wicked, evil world!
"Aliens and pilgrims while on the earth" indeed and Truth, for soon, and very soon, we will be taken Home, Home at last!
Till then:
Father Help! and HE does.......