AM I JEW OR A GENTILE IF I KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS ?

[Vaudeville]

Thank you, to JaumeJ, I needed that praise.

this poster flatters some as a prelude to passive-aggression against others. why do you, hoffco need so much validation? it doesn't appear to matter from whom.

 

[Hoffco]

this passive-aggressive posing, claiming to have me on ignore, then speaking to my posts over my head won't do.
are you holier because you use Yeshua and faith of abraham? lofty self-righteousness. typical.

in reality, it appears you're ashamed to be called a christian. you don't believe God ordained the New Covenant would go out to the world in the so-hated (by your sect) gentile language - GREEK. you, like the rabbis who still hate the messiah, believe hebrew is a holy language preferred by God. but he has put your kind of wisdom to shame, has he not? indeed he has.

To me , this seems soooo out of place, why? such condemnatin to such a good post? Love to all Hoffco

 

[Vaudeville]

To me , this seems soooo out of place, why? such condemnatin to such a good post? Love to all Hoffco

Some believers consider themselves without sin because Yeshua is seen in them by the Father and not their unperfected selves.

All who come to Yeshua know they are sinners. As Paul confesses of himself, though his body is dead because of sin, he is alive because of Yeshua. He said he does the very thing he hates. I believe this is true to some degree in all believers, that is in all who confess Yeshua as Lord and Salvation.

As far as people deciding to arrive at some kind of glorious determination by asking someone if they feel they have no sin or if they are above sinning is inquisitorial, inappropriate, and somewhat false.

No matter what a person should respond to such a question will appear, that is appear, to have placed him in a corner.

It would be appropriate to confess your own understanding and your own attitude about your sinful self, for another to be able to know what you truly desire. Myself, I am a sinner, regarded by the Almighty God as without the guilt of sin because I claim the Blood of His Precious Lamb. This does not mean I do not slip up, but not habitually. Yeshua is my innocence. There, I have confessed, now why not everyone else without casting dispersions on family in Yeshua?

take another look and follow the links. the poster has the desire to talk about a poster (who disagrees with him), but places that poster on ignore. so that is how my relationship with him will proceed.

 

[mpaper345]

If you are a Gentile you are a Jew inward but today the Jews are not to go by the physical ordinances of the Old Testament including sabbath days because Jesus took them out of the way nailing them to His cross because they were contrary to us because they could not provide spiritual salvation but kept them right until Christ came.

We no longer go by a physical day of rest sabbath but it is now a spiritual rest by the Holy Spirit.You are observing the sabbath when you have the Holy Spirit and that spiritual rest.

God said in the Old Testament,with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to these people and this is the rest wherewith you may cause the weary to rest and this is the refreshing,yet they would not hear.

And so many people do not hear but say go by the physical sabbath,but it is a spiritual sabbath,which the Bible says that which is natural first then that which is spiritual.

 

[Hoffco]

you are right pride hates to admit sin.
but is admitting all have sin a direct shaming question? no, it's a broom that sweeps away all this posturing that this or that is greater in the kingdom (bread crumbs, sabbath-keeping, festivals, boasting about any good works, etc).

any truly justified person who knows Christ admits readily they know they still have sin. they also admit they hate it and struggle against it.

Paul said He wanted to do good, and always be well pleasing to God, this is not "posturing" to evil pride. We are confessing our sinfulness but ,yet our desire to do good and glorify our Father. Jesus told us to let the world see our good deeds and glorify our Father. Please don't think evil of us. Love to all, Hoffco

 

[Vaudeville]

Paul said He wanted to do good, and always be well pleasing to God, this is not "posturing" to evil pride. We are confessing our sinfulness but ,yet our desire to do good and glorify our Father. Jesus told us to let the world see our good deeds and glorify our Father. Please don't think evil of us. Love to all, Hoffco

if that is your profession and desire, i have only good thoughts for and of you.
if your claim is you have no sin because you keep the mosaic law, the new testament says those mouths subvert entire households and must be stopped.

 

[Zinzerio]

hello all again i wish you all happy sabbath day again in the name of Yeshua, Jehovah ,I am,JESUS, in the name the name of the holy amen

let us fellowship on this glorious day to day is the day where our lord Jesus showed mercy and healing to all those in need of a Savior, today is a day that we can start the rest of the week as you mean to go, (with peace and love and no fowl language and no grumbling this is peace).

Today is the day you can become a defender of the faith, where all mocking is put away once and for all, ask the farther he will send a helper. god bless

 

[phil112]

.................. Phil has knack of trashing people with no scripture to back him up........

You accuse me of trashing someone without backing it up with scripture. That is a lie. You always post "love hoffco" at the end of your posts. According to Paul in the 13th chapter of 1 Corinthians, that makes you a hypocrite.

 

[RedTent]

If you are a Gentile you are a Jew inward but today the Jews are not to go by the physical ordinances of the Old Testament including sabbath days because Jesus took them out of the way nailing them to His cross because they were contrary to us because they could not provide spiritual salvation but kept them right until Christ came.

We no longer go by a physical day of rest sabbath but it is now a spiritual rest by the Holy Spirit.You are observing the sabbath when you have the Holy Spirit and that spiritual rest.

God said in the Old Testament,with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to these people and this is the rest wherewith you may cause the weary to rest and this is the refreshing,yet they would not hear.

And so many people do not hear but say go by the physical sabbath,but it is a spiritual sabbath,which the Bible says that which is natural first then that which is spiritual.

Most people do go by the physical, not the spiritual of the commandments, they just see it as don't do the physical in the same way others see to do the physical. It is the doing of the physical commands that is looked at, not the spiritual of them. Only true Christians see the spiritual.

I have decided to not eat pork or any fish that feeds from the bottom of the sea, or scavengers. To me, it has nothing to do with the food. God isn't interested in what I eat, as scripture says. I do it as a sort of crutch to help me live the spiritual teaching. Most others don't see that. I am disobeying NT teaching in many people's eyes, even though there is much teaching to see the spiritual not the physical.

What you eat has little to do with spiritual understanding, but how you decide to physically spend the Sabbath has a lot to do with the spiritual Sabbath. You have to spiritually disobey God if your physical doing doesn't follow your spiritual. You have to be in rebellion to not honor the Sabbath, the spiritual and what you do, in that case is hand in glove.

 

[RedTent]

You accuse me of trashing someone without backing it up with scripture. That is a lie. You always post "love hoffco" at the end of your posts. According to Paul in the 13th chapter of 1 Corinthians, that makes you a hypocrite.

"accuse" "a lie" "you are a hypocrite". And Christ said not to even call someone a fool! Have you read what fruits putting on Christ accomplishes? If you feel you are above Hoffco, then act like it.

 

[phil112]

"accuse" "a lie" "you are a hypocrite". And Christ said not to even call someone a fool! Have you read what fruits putting on Christ accomplishes? If you feel you are above Hoffco, then act like it.

He also said: "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."
Where did I say I was above hoffco? Stop putting words in my mouth.
Anyone that puts up lies in writing is showing their fruits.
You are condemning me for observing?

 

[Grandpa]

If you are a Gentile you are a Jew inward but today the Jews are not to go by the physical ordinances of the Old Testament including sabbath days because Jesus took them out of the way nailing them to His cross because they were contrary to us because they could not provide spiritual salvation but kept them right until Christ came.

We no longer go by a physical day of rest sabbath but it is now a spiritual rest by the Holy Spirit.You are observing the sabbath when you have the Holy Spirit and that spiritual rest.

God said in the Old Testament,with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to these people and this is the rest wherewith you may cause the weary to rest and this is the refreshing,yet they would not hear.

And so many people do not hear but say go by the physical sabbath,but it is a spiritual sabbath,which the Bible says that which is natural first then that which is spiritual.

And that is why the physical doing is the schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Because at some point you will see that all your work doesn't ever keep the commandments. The schoolmaster brings us to Christ because we need help.

And so the Lord gives us rest by giving us the Holy Spirit and shedding love abroad in our hearts. The Holy Spirit doesn't strive to keep commandments. The Holy Spirit fulfills them. And that is our rest from condemnation. (Galatians 5:22-23)

So who is your High Priest? The Lord Jesus Christ or someone in the Levitical priesthood? If the Lord Jesus is your High Priest then you have been given rest by the Holy Spirit. If you don't believe in Christ then you are still under law. If you think you are partially under Christ and partially under law then you are entirely under law. (see Galatians 3:10)

 

[Zinzerio]

Lets look at the word mocking, it can come in the form of many instances, for example i am playing golf and i go to take my shot, the people i am playing are wishing me to miss or play a bad shot, i can see in there eyes there hatred towards me when i play a good shot that they can not. I have witnessed this pure jealous look many times, but do i say anything back even know i can see they are not happy that i have played a good shot, ? (yes) (no) no i dont i go to them on there next shot and i

show them my technique as to make it a fairer game, this is called being a good sportsman and a good Samaritan.

Now lets look at what happens when they play a good shot after i have showed them.

they thank me and say its so good to have you around, on the other hand they play a bad shot after i have tried to help, what do they do ? they continue to mock me and say im not listening to you from now i will go my own way, (we are now in the sabbath where Jesus says don't go your own way)

at this point do i mock back because they have not appreciated my help.) No i just continue to play good they see my good shots and they think hang on a minute i should not have been so bad as to mock when he tried to help me,

(we are now at the gate,) some people will continue to mock or some may come into my fold and say i want to learn from you.
I realise it was wrong of me, i say no problem you are most welcome, which brings me to this next point the people who are still in mocking may think they are not welcome because they think i am now upset with them because they mocked me, no no no that is not case the player brought all this upon him self,

 

[RedTent]

And that is why the physical doing is the schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Because at some point you will see that all your work doesn't ever keep the commandments. The schoolmaster brings us to Christ because we need help.

And so the Lord gives us rest by giving us the Holy Spirit and shedding love abroad in our hearts. The Holy Spirit doesn't strive to keep commandments. The Holy Spirit fulfills them. And that is our rest from condemnation. (Galatians 5:22-23)

So who is your High Priest? The Lord Jesus Christ or someone in the Levitical priesthood? If the Lord Jesus is your High Priest then you have been given rest by the Holy Spirit. If you don't believe in Christ then you are still under law. If you think you are partially under Christ and partially under law then you are entirely under law. (see Galatians 3:10)

I don't see the Holy Spirit as not working with us to live as Christ led us to live, to follow commandments. I understand that following those commandments doesn't save us as everyone points out, but Christ never said that his salvation was based on our following Him exactly, it is based on our faith in Him to lead us correctly. Following the commandments without first being saved and receiving the HS doesn't work. But these truths we are told doesn't wipe out the truth of the commandments, I find no scripture that says it does. I find scripture that tells us about the importance of each of these truths.

I don't think that any of the letters or Hebrews tells us that our ignorance of all the Levitical priesthood was given responsibility for would help us because Christ is now our high priest. Ignorance never helps. The levitical priesthood was sent first, it led the way to our understanding of Christ.

 

[Zinzerio]

Question and anyone can feel ok to answer , is it ok for someone to say i am a child of god i will continue to lust over my wife and other people and my future sins are forgiven, is that ok for a child of God to preach this to other children of God such ? bearing in mind the millstone scripture.

 

[Grandpa]

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I don't think that any of the letters or Hebrews tells us that our ignorance of all the Levitical priesthood was given responsibility for would help us because Christ is now our high priest. Ignorance never helps. The levitical priesthood was sent first, it led the way to our understanding of Christ.

The Holy Spirit is what gives us the understanding of Christ. It is with this understanding of Christ by the Holy Spirit that we can see that the Levitical Priesthood has passed away. A much better Priesthood is here.

So if we have a much better Priesthood in the Lord Jesus Christ what would be the point of going back to the old one to try and follow it? Extra righteousness??? Why would you go back and try to earn what the Lord Jesus has given to us as His Gift? Un-belief is the only reason I can think of. Can you think of a better one?

 

[Vaudeville]

Most people do go by the physical, not the spiritual of the commandments, they just see it as don't do the physical in the same way others see to do the physical. It is the doing of the physical commands that is looked at, not the spiritual of them. Only true Christians see the spiritual.

I have decided to not eat pork or any fish that feeds from the bottom of the sea, or scavengers. To me, it has nothing to do with the food. God isn't interested in what I eat, as scripture says. I do it as a sort of crutch to help me live the spiritual teaching. Most others don't see that. I am disobeying NT teaching in many people's eyes, even though there is much teaching to see the spiritual not the physical.

What you eat has little to do with spiritual understanding, but how you decide to physically spend the Sabbath has a lot to do with the spiritual Sabbath. You have to spiritually disobey God if your physical doing doesn't follow your spiritual. You have to be in rebellion to not honor the Sabbath, the spiritual and what you do, in that case is hand in glove.

you are very confused.

 

[Vaudeville]

Question and anyone can feel ok to answer , is it ok for someone to say i am a child of god i will continue to lust over my wife and other people and my future sins are forgiven, is that ok for a child of God to preach this to other children of God such ? bearing in mind the millstone scripture.

i don't know who said it is okay for you to lust after women not your wife. it is expected that you would feel sexual attraction for your wife.

aside from that, your future sins are forgiven, if you confess them and repent (change). it is biblical to teach people this, it is unbiblical to teach people their future sins can not or will not be forgiven.

 

[Vaudeville]

Lets look at the word mocking, it can come in the form of many instances, for example i am playing golf and i go to take my shot, the people i am playing are wishing me to miss or play a bad shot, i can see in there eyes there hatred towards me when i play a good shot that they can not. I have witnessed this pure jealous look many times, but do i say anything back even know i can see they are not happy that i have played a good shot, ? (yes) (no) no i dont i go to them on there next shot and i

show them my technique as to make it a fairer game, this is called being a good sportsman and a good Samaritan.

Now lets look at what happens when they play a good shot after i have showed them.

they thank me and say its so good to have you around, on the other hand they play a bad shot after i have tried to help, what do they do ? they continue to mock me and say im not listening to you from now i will go my own way, (we are now in the sabbath where Jesus says don't go your own way)

at this point do i mock back because they have not appreciated my help.) No i just continue to play good they see my good shots and they think hang on a minute i should not have been so bad as to mock when he tried to help me,

(we are now at the gate,) some people will continue to mock or some may come into my fold and say i want to learn from you.
I realise it was wrong of me, i say no problem you are most welcome, which brings me to this next point the people who are still in mocking may think they are not welcome because they think i am now upset with them because they mocked me, no no no that is not case the player brought all this upon him self,

well you are a very good person with much to boast about. including that in your righteousness and goodness you patiently wait to teach the mocker.

 

[Zinzerio]

Ok thank you so much for your answers if i am teacher against mocking i except the title thank-you.

if anyone else would like to answer feel free as my question was for everyone.