Among Christian Groups today. Who did not pass this verse?

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homwardbound

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Let us read one of the verses where Jesus playing is 1st Role as The Father.
God The Father should be worshipped alone.
MATTHEW 28:17-18
17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

This is one of the verses where Jesus playing his 2nd Role The Son of The Living God or Son of God.
LUKE 18:18-19
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
The mysterious ways of God, that no flesh can figure out, time to stand in trust to Father of the risen Son for us. thank you and be new in true love to all that get imputed this (1 Cor 13:4-7,13)
 

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1 JOHN 4:2-3

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
The word here for come is erchomai. It can mean either "come" or "go". Jesus both came and left in flesh. I have heard at least one calvinist argue that Jesus does not have a physical body as He sits on the throne beside His Father in heaven, which would deny 1 Jobn 4:2-3. " I don't know if that's a generally held view of calvinists.
 
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Since Our Lord Jesus is playing 2 Roles.
1st Role: The Role of Father
2nd Role: The Role of The Son.

In his Role as the Father, he made a promised to his disciples.
He said he said he will give the disciples a Comforter. And the Comforter is the Holy Ghost.
And he will come back for them.
JOHN 14:18
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Another promised.
When our Lord Jesus back, he will never leave is disciples anymore.
MATTHEW 28:20
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

When this promises of Our Lord Jesus Christ being fulfilled, that he will come back and never leave them anymore?
The promised of Our Lord Jesus Christ in his Role as the Father is being fulfilled in the day of Pentecost.
ACTS 2:1-4
1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Yes, Jesus Christ in his Role as The Father, he came back in the form of The Holy Ghost.
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Let us make a review.
God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob whom they call God The Father establish a Covenant or Testament (Genesis 17:7)
God The Father must die to Fulfill his Testament (Hebrews 9:16-17)
Because God the Father is a Spirit God and can't die, he manifest in the Flesh so He can die (1 Timothy 3:16 kjv)
He was seen as Jesus Christ.
In his 1 body he played the 2 roles. (1st role of the Father & 2nd is role of The Son)
Our Lord Jesus Christ emphasize the fulfillment of the Testament by his own death before he died on the cross when he said IT IS FINISHED (John 19:30).

If there is Testament, there is also inheritance.
God the Father said that he is the Inheritance.
EZEKIEL 44:28
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And it shall be unto them for an inheritance: I am their inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their possession.

He proved this in Acts 2:1-4 when the Holy Spirit filled to the Disciples.

With God's Revelation (through his words alone), now it is very Clear to us that Jesus Christ who came in the Flesh is The God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob whom they call God The Father.

Among Christian Groups, who do you think passed the Test in our Topic?
Because below verses is not just a plain statement but To Identify The Real Jesus Christ who came in The Flesh.
And No One could Identify him but by God's Revelation Alone.
1 JOHN 4:2-3
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Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
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And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
 

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Let us make a review.
God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob whom they call God The Father establish a Covenant or Testament (Genesis 17:7)
God The Father must die to Fulfill his Testament (Hebrews 9:16-17)
Because God the Father is a Spirit God and can't die, he manifest in the Flesh so He can die (1 Timothy 3:16 kjv)
He was seen as Jesus Christ.
In his 1 body he played the 2 roles. (1st role of the Father & 2nd is role of The Son)
Our Lord Jesus Christ emphasize the fulfillment of the Testament by his own death before he died on the cross when he said IT IS FINISHED (John 19:30).

If there is Testament, there is also inheritance.
God the Father said that he is the Inheritance.
EZEKIEL 44:28
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And it shall be unto them for an inheritance: I am their inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their possession.

He proved this in Acts 2:1-4 when the Holy Spirit filled to the Disciples.

With God's Revelation (through his words alone), now it is very Clear to us that Jesus Christ who came in the Flesh is The God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob whom they call God The Father.

Among Christian Groups, who do you think passed the Test in our Topic?
Because below verses is not just a plain statement but To Identify The Real Jesus Christ who came in The Flesh.
And No One could Identify him but by God's Revelation Alone.
1 JOHN 4:2-3
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Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
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And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
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What people believe is, The Christ came in The Flesh is Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
With God's Revelation, Jesus Christ who came in The Flesh is The God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob whom they call God The Father.

This is Jesus Christ as The God of Abraham.
LUKE 23:42-43
42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Yes, because in the Kingdom of Heaven, Jesus Christ is the King and No One else.
 
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1 JOHN 4:2-3

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
I remember an apocryphal verse where Jesus said, the kingdom of God is spread across the whole earth but we don't see it.

I'll never know all the answers this side of life. Till that changes I go with the idea of, it's a mystery.
 
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Let us make a review.
God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob whom they call God The Father establish a Covenant or Testament (Genesis 17:7)
God The Father must die to Fulfill his Testament (Hebrews 9:16-17)
Because God the Father is a Spirit God and can't die, he manifest in the Flesh so He can die (1 Timothy 3:16 kjv)
He was seen as Jesus Christ.
In his 1 body he played the 2 roles. (1st role of the Father & 2nd is role of The Son)
Our Lord Jesus Christ emphasize the fulfillment of the Testament by his own death before he died on the cross when he said IT IS FINISHED (John 19:30).

If there is Testament, there is also inheritance.
God the Father said that he is the Inheritance.
EZEKIEL 44:28
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And it shall be unto them for an inheritance: I am their inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their possession.

He proved this in Acts 2:1-4 when the Holy Spirit filled to the Disciples.

With God's Revelation (through his words alone), now it is very Clear to us that Jesus Christ who came in the Flesh is The God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob whom they call God The Father.

Among Christian Groups, who do you think passed the Test in our Topic?
Because below verses is not just a plain statement but To Identify The Real Jesus Christ who came in The Flesh.
And No One could Identify him but by God's Revelation Alone.
1 JOHN 4:2-3
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Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
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And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Help me here if you will. Doesn't that Ezekiel verse tell us it's all an heritance for the Hebrews? Jews?

Jesus said he has come only for the house of Israel. Is that reference to the w2 tribes? Or to the descendants of Jacob?
Thanks for any assistance to my understanding.
 

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Help me here if you will. Doesn't that Ezekiel verse tell us it's all an heritance for the Hebrews? Jews?

Jesus said he has come only for the house of Israel. Is that reference to the w2 tribes? Or to the descendants of Jacob?
Thanks for any assistance to my understanding.
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When God said Israel, it is not the country.
He is referring to Spiritual Israel and that is his Chosen.
Jacob was called by God the Father in the name of Israel. Because Jacob is a chosen.

The Israelites in the Old Testament were the Chosen of God.
Every Chosen of God in each generation no matter what the citizenship is, God called them Israelites.
GALATIANS 3:28
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

These Chosen of God in which the recognition to Jesus is from God The Father or it is Miracle from God.
MATTHEW 16:16-17
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
 
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What people believe is, The Christ came in The Flesh is Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
With God's Revelation, Jesus Christ who came in The Flesh is The God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob whom they call God The Father.

This is Jesus Christ as The God of Abraham.
LUKE 23:42-43
42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Yes, because in the Kingdom of Heaven, Jesus Christ is the King and No One else.
Note this:
Each Epistle states both Father and Son, even though the two are one. Marriage, the mystery of marriage now revealed, the two become one
so are we married here on earth to earth, Or to Father of Son by Son for us in belief to this truth, he is risen where new life is given from Father, Daddy, Papa
We each decide within ourselves and each know truth whether claim to know it or not
Romans 8, spells this out for me to know we all know within ourselves
Time to decide consciously between God and me, thanks next!
 
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When God said Israel, it is not the country.
He is referring to Spiritual Israel and that is his Chosen.
Jacob was called by God the Father in the name of Israel. Because Jacob is a chosen.

The Israelites in the Old Testament were the Chosen of God.
Every Chosen of God in each generation no matter what the citizenship is, God called them Israelites.
GALATIANS 3:28
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

These Chosen of God in which the recognition to Jesus is from God The Father or it is Miracle from God.
MATTHEW 16:16-17
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Thank you.
 
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What people believe is, The Christ came in The Flesh is Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
With God's Revelation, Jesus Christ who came in The Flesh is The God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob whom they call God The Father.

This is Jesus Christ as The God of Abraham.
LUKE 23:42-43
42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Yes, because in the Kingdom of Heaven, Jesus Christ is the King and No One else.
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In heaven, there is only 1 Throne where the True God seats.
With God's Revelation who is Jesus Christ came in the Flesh, we can identify who is seating in 1 Throne seen by Apostle John.
REVELATION 4:2
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.