Angels can procreate

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JohnB

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Read chapter five, and nowhere does it say that we cannot add in what we think. If the Bible is silent on it, we are to be also. What we do know is God judged MEN for sin in chapters 6 and 7 of Genesis.
Because they had relationships with fallen angels. Also,...NOWHERE in the verses are the lines of Seth and Cain mentioned. That is something men are read into it. because the could not accept the fact that angels had relationships with women.
 

Magenta

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There's 83 ways to say Blessed without using Blessed. But Blessed is cool with me.
That is what you respond with? You focus on something my posts were not even about?
Jeepers. Mary is not blessed or esteemed above all women. Jesus shot down that idea when it
was presented to Him. How many times do you have to be told this while you pretend you are
being told something else??? Mary is blessed among women, not above all women. I highlight
the words and you ignore them and go for something else?
Maybe this time you will get it.

You explicitly said Mary was to be esteemed above all women. Why deny it?

Jesus shot down that very idea. Scripture says she is blessed among women.
Another un-Biblical idea. Very RCC, in fact. Mary is blessed among women, not
above all women. Jesus publicly rebuked the person who promoted your idea here.
 

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Because they had relationships with fallen angels. Also,...NOWHERE in the verses are the lines of Seth and Cain mentioned. That is something men are read into it. Because they could not accept the fact that angels had relationships with women.
the word God doesn't SAY THAT. You fail to see the line of Cain, and just because you do not see it you can ingore the truth. There is one. and Cain in mentioned in cha[ter 4 LOL FYI, the word of God was not written in chapter and verse. That was added so chapters 4 & 5 are unit chapters they both are contextual

Chapter 5 of Genesis from verse 3-32 is more information for chapter 4 starting at verses 16-26
 
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Well, the problem is the English translation from the Hebrew. sons of god have a semantic range of meanings which one is also: gods, angels, and men, aka human beings. That being known, we must use the word the best fits with the context with in the sentence, verse, paragraph, or chapter provided in the text.

So if you replace the sons of God to mean angels instead of earthly men, the chapter makes no sense at all. It would have God destroying the earth over the action of spiritual beings instead of what the sin of men was doing. As the chapter tells us the reason God judged that generation. In addition, it makes Jesus' words of Noah's generation meaningless because God would no reason to judge men for what angels did.

One more point is that the created beings can move outside of God's ordination or things, and the creation animals after their "kind" would be able to mate with other types. Birds with fish, cats with dogs, men with angels. THIS IS THE SAME KIND OF PERVERSION we see today in the context of transgender. A lying devil making a mockery of God's Creation. As men of the word give in to seducing spirits and are deceived to believe a lie.
Absolutely agree with you here. I might also add that the age of artificial intelligence has come upon us also.
Who the sons of God are and who were the giants are debated over and over again.
But thats not the issue imo. The issue was a abnormal event that seemed to be excepted which led to continuace violence and hatred.
I believe that Jesus pointed out the days of noah as a warning of such things and what it leads to.
Beleive it or not even members of the lgbtq are baffled and apposed to this transgender spike we are now seeing.
Notice the push for all inclusion? For all to be accepted .
As far as i know angels were not made in the image of God. Nor are they male or female. They also were not given the blessing to multiply. If im wrong in this correct me please.

Generations of noah ....names.

Adam........first man sinned
Seth.......so GOD sent another
Enoch.....then men called upon the name of the Lord
Methuselah....his death shall bring.
Noah.....peace and comfort to his people
 

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By the way, there is no mention of marriages between the line of Seth and the
line of Cain being a sin. GOD never said the lines were to be kept seperate.
Believers are warned/cautioned/commanded not to be yoked to unbelievers many many
many times throughout Scripture, "... for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods.”
 

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I hope there is.
Lol, I take it your a politician in real life. And if there isnt?

How about if I implore that your yes be yes and your no be no.

Im just as interested to hear your deflections as your answers now :)
 

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Believers are warned/cautioned/commanded not to be yoked to unbelievers many many
many times throughout Scripture, "... for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods.”
But they don't create giants and this was BEFORE any laws were established.
 

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the word God doesn't SAY THAT. You fail to see the line of Cain, and just because you do not see it you can ingore the truth. There is one. and Cain in mentioned in cha[ter 4 LOL FYI, the word of God was not written in chapter and verse. That was added so chapters 4 & 5 are unit chapters they both are contextual

Chapter 5 of Genesis from verse 3-32 is more information for chapter 4 starting at verses 16-26
Where does it say the line of Cain should not marry the line of Seth? There were no laws given at this time.
 

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I hope there's a eunuchs club in heaven for some of you.
Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead, they will be like the angels in heaven." Perhaps you ought to read an actual Bible.
 

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Where does it say the line of Cain should not marry the line of Seth? There were no laws given at this time.
To me its just plain sense, that if you call upon and follow God, the last thing you want is for your family to go and mingle with the decedents of Cain. Also we dont need the law to know what is right or wrong we already have it written into our conscience by God, its just that God allows those to sear their conscience so justify sin. :(

Rom 2:14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them
 

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Let it be said and known by all: JohnB is an expert on sex, but not much else.
 

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Sin was in the world before the law was given.
Yes, people sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted as sin because there was not yet any law to break. Romans 5:13
 

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Let it be said and known by all: JohnB is an expert on sex, but not much else.
The Song of Solomon would never had made it into the bible if it was up to the church. The church would have called the Song of Solomon pagan porn. Since GOD did put it in the bible, sex must be a beautiful thing to him.
 

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To me its just plain sense, that if you call upon and follow God, the last thing you want is for your family to go and mingle with the decedents of Cain. Also we dont need the law to know what is right or wrong we already have it written into our conscience by God, its just that God allows those to sear their conscience so justify sin. :(

Rom 2:14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them
Once again. no mention of Seth or Cain. That is an invention of man to try and back up their own biases.
 

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The Song of Solomon would never had made it into the bible if it was up to the church. The church would have called the Song of Solomon pagan porn. Since GOD did put it in the bible, sex must be a beautiful thing to him.
Like I said, you really know your sex. Kudos.
 

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To me its just plain sense, that if you call upon and follow God, the last thing you want is for your family to go and mingle with the decedents of Cain. Also we dont need the law to know what is right or wrong we already have it written into our conscience by God, its just that God allows those to sear their conscience so justify sin. :(

Rom 2:14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them

lol, first you say "the last thing you want is for your family to go and mingle with the decedents(wrong word) of Cain..." then you give a verse Rom.2:14 that disproves what you just said... It's odd watching threads like this because the vast majority seem's to think ungodliness is an inherited genetic disorder passed down from their father Cain.