Another requirement for salvation; Not that simple
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Yep after He saved us this is what happen
Matt 25
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.
we change, before, we do not love the poor, now we love the least, the poor, the hungered, the stranger/not racist anymore.
Matt 25
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.
we change, before, we do not love the poor, now we love the least, the poor, the hungered, the stranger/not racist anymore.
Yep not perfect but It must grow, change to the direction of holyness.
it not an easy to love the poor the hungered and the stranger. Even in poor country like Indonesia, racist is there. Some time I wonder, why some people in poor country like my country racist, they do not like foreigner come, they think take they job?
a minimum Wage is less than $9 a day, not an hour, Who is willing to take they job?
I talk to my friend that is racist, If American racist, I still understand, though It is a capital punishment according to matt 25 they are rich country, they do not want people from other country destroy they system. But we are poor country, the system is already bad, why we racist?
I believe non believer is bonded by sin, they make un reasonable sin and not aware
it not an easy to love the poor the hungered and the stranger. Even in poor country like Indonesia, racist is there. Some time I wonder, why some people in poor country like my country racist, they do not like foreigner come, they think take they job?
a minimum Wage is less than $9 a day, not an hour, Who is willing to take they job?
I talk to my friend that is racist, If American racist, I still understand, though It is a capital punishment according to matt 25 they are rich country, they do not want people from other country destroy they system. But we are poor country, the system is already bad, why we racist?
I believe non believer is bonded by sin, they make un reasonable sin and not aware
First off, it was Calvin, not Luther, who said this. The Lutheran confession has a similar saying, but the context of both is very very far from what you advocate here. Nothing of what you advocate here has any similarity of what Luther, or Calvin, taught on this matter. Not at all. What you advocate here is opposite of what they taught. Maybe it does not matter to you, but let's get things straight at least. And truthful.
Who are those christians? Can you name anyone, any single one, here at CC who believes this way?
If continually doing theft it might be a sign that he is off base or a plant, But, lets not beat around the bush, what do you believe about your friend? Do you think that if he gives back the money he stole, then that is a sure sign he is right with God and by doing so he is making up for the requirements of getting saved? Is he working enough or how much more does he have to work?
I was quoting what Paul said in Romans 10 about those who have not submitted to the righteousness of God, which is revealed in the gospel. Those who are ignorant (lacking knowledge) about this are lost, even if they are ever so zealous for God. There are christians out there who have been carried about by winds of false doctrines that they caught up somewhere. Then there are false teachers, Godhaters, who teaches the damnable heresy of conditionalism, i e that salvation is conditioned on the work of the sinner. Not the atoning blood and imputed righteousness of Christ alone. So the ones advocating conditionalism are either christians who for some reason have gone astray, and they need to speedily repent, or outright false teachers.
Who are those christians? Can you name anyone, any single one, here at CC who believes this way?
If continually doing theft it might be a sign that he is off base or a plant, But, lets not beat around the bush, what do you believe about your friend? Do you think that if he gives back the money he stole, then that is a sure sign he is right with God and by doing so he is making up for the requirements of getting saved? Is he working enough or how much more does he have to work?
I was quoting what Paul said in Romans 10 about those who have not submitted to the righteousness of God, which is revealed in the gospel. Those who are ignorant (lacking knowledge) about this are lost, even if they are ever so zealous for God. There are christians out there who have been carried about by winds of false doctrines that they caught up somewhere. Then there are false teachers, Godhaters, who teaches the damnable heresy of conditionalism, i e that salvation is conditioned on the work of the sinner. Not the atoning blood and imputed righteousness of Christ alone. So the ones advocating conditionalism are either christians who for some reason have gone astray, and they need to speedily repent, or outright false teachers.
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You quoted in this your post Matthew 7:21-23. Where it says that Lord never knew those in that crowd.
These people never was God's possession, they never belonged to Him. To think of this verse as someone who was saved once and then lost his salvation is just ignorance. Nothing but ignorance. But notice one interesting thing with this crowd, their emphasis was on their own works, on their own efforts, not on the work of Christ.
These people never was God's possession, they never belonged to Him. To think of this verse as someone who was saved once and then lost his salvation is just ignorance. Nothing but ignorance. But notice one interesting thing with this crowd, their emphasis was on their own works, on their own efforts, not on the work of Christ.
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1. If my interpretation about Martin or Calvin wrong, please correct me, tell me what is right
2. Some people in my church, and I Remember some people in cc but I am not Remember in detail
3. If he give back what he stole It may sign of repent, or may because get cought, It can be anything, but If he not intend to give back money he had stole than he is not repent. He believe there is No correlation between salvation and work
4. I do not believe salvation by work, but I do believe salvation produce good work
2. Some people in my church, and I Remember some people in cc but I am not Remember in detail
3. If he give back what he stole It may sign of repent, or may because get cought, It can be anything, but If he not intend to give back money he had stole than he is not repent. He believe there is No correlation between salvation and work
4. I do not believe salvation by work, but I do believe salvation produce good work