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how does calling some1 rabbi prove that he is baptizied? and it makes my blood boil to see such a brainless remark, you are saved by faith and grace. baptism is a wonderful thing, it helps you along the road to get closer to jesus. what if i BELIEVE? so automatically if i was shot tomorrow (as im not baptised) im gonna go to hell?
M
DEFINITELY!
ENJOY!
Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Change your name to someonecondemned! lol
M
hey suaso
Revelation 18:4
Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
You're proudly catholic what plague do you prefer?
M
sorry for the delay Searching4somethinglost,
yes i must admit i do enjoy peeing off a few scribes on my thread...but so did Jesus at the forums.
Matthew 23:33 "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? (lol)
as for the babies, King Solomon said
" 2 And I declared that the dead,
who had already died,
are happier than the living,
who are still alive.
3 But better than both
is he who has not yet been,
who has not seen the evil
that is done under the sun." Ecclesiastes 4
King David speaking of his baby said 18 On the seventh day the child died. "But now that he is dead, why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me." 2 Samuel
that says the infant is with Jesus. it seems the cut off is 8 days old in the OT.
Genesis 17:12 For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."
in the NT its up to your conscience. early Christians would have interchanged physical circumcision for the baptismal circumcision. Colossians 2:11 In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism"
Peter wrote "and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge (or the response) of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ". the disciples didn't disagree. only modern Christians do.
So Searching4somethinglost as you can see NO Baptism NO Salvation.
if what I'm showing you is stupid then you haven't been chosen to see.
P.S
they can ban you for swearing on this site...(say peeing) lol
To those who don't know this question came from a 15 year old
who has shown greater wisdom than all you Pharisee types.
so please let me quote The Master
"You snakes! You brood of vipers!
How will you escape being condemned to hell?"
I
This is all symbolism of what circumcision is. Every male who is eight days old must be circumcised. The foreskin was just the shadow. But what does it mean to be circumcised spiritually?
Jeremiah 9:25-26
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised;
26Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all that are in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in the heart.
This is spiritual as well. spiritual Egypt, Judah, Edom, Ammon, Moab and all that are in the wilderness are uncircumcised in the flesh but circumcised in the heart. They hold to the faith of Jesus but they worship a man made image of god. Spiritual Israel are circumcised in the flesh, but not in the heart. They worship the true God but they lack the faith of Jesus and therefore are under the law.
Hebrews 4:1-12
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
We are told in the ten commandments to remember "His" Sabbath. In Genesis, the first six days ended with "and the evening and the morning were the (1st-6th) day." The seventh hasn't ended! The Day of the Lord is His eighth day and we must be circumcised both physically(keeping the spirit commandments of God) and in the heart (the faith of Jesus).
Ephesians 4:25-26
Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
26Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
Jeremiah 9:25-26
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised;
26Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all that are in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in the heart.
This is spiritual as well. spiritual Egypt, Judah, Edom, Ammon, Moab and all that are in the wilderness are uncircumcised in the flesh but circumcised in the heart. They hold to the faith of Jesus but they worship a man made image of god. Spiritual Israel are circumcised in the flesh, but not in the heart. They worship the true God but they lack the faith of Jesus and therefore are under the law.
Hebrews 4:1-12
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
We are told in the ten commandments to remember "His" Sabbath. In Genesis, the first six days ended with "and the evening and the morning were the (1st-6th) day." The seventh hasn't ended! The Day of the Lord is His eighth day and we must be circumcised both physically(keeping the spirit commandments of God) and in the heart (the faith of Jesus).
Ephesians 4:25-26
Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
26Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
Matthew 7:1-5
Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. For the way you judge others is how you will be judged -- the measure with which you measure out will be used to measure to you. Why do you see the splinter in your brother's eye but not notice the log in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the splinter out of your eye,' when you have the log in your own eye? You hypocrite! First, take the log out of your own eye; then you will see clearly, so that you can remove the splinter from your brother's eye!
Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. For the way you judge others is how you will be judged -- the measure with which you measure out will be used to measure to you. Why do you see the splinter in your brother's eye but not notice the log in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the splinter out of your eye,' when you have the log in your own eye? You hypocrite! First, take the log out of your own eye; then you will see clearly, so that you can remove the splinter from your brother's eye!