-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
W
See matt/
11 "I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry; he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. 12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the granary, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire."
Is there not three ways to come to the Lord?
1. water for repentance.(John)
2. The (Holy Spirit).
3.With the Fire of (Christs and his coming),second advent.(Christ)
Could not one say He was Baptized with the Holy Spirit.walt2000
11 "I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry; he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. 12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the granary, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire."
Is there not three ways to come to the Lord?
1. water for repentance.(John)
2. The (Holy Spirit).
3.With the Fire of (Christs and his coming),second advent.(Christ)
Could not one say He was Baptized with the Holy Spirit.walt2000
Actually, you got the words transposed there.
Because of the Scriptures I was lead to the Catholic church. There I found a Church dedicated to the Scriptures and to the worship of Christ Our God. While I treasure my experiences as a Protestant, they were merely preparation for the Lord to guide me to the fullness of His Church.
I have yet to find a Church more dedicated to Christ and the Scriptures than the Catholic Church.
I
Let's try this again, as we are to let the Bible interpret the Bible.
Ephesians 12:6
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Romans 13:1-7
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves ****ation.
3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
1 Timothy 2:1-2
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
The mark of the beast has nothing to do with microchips or any other visible sign of alligance. Buying and selling has nothing to do with tangile, literal goods and services. We know that there is no literal beast that's going to rise out of the sea. We need only to apply that same logic here as well. This is spiritual. The beast already has control over everything mainstream. Governments, television, music, and anything else that reaches the masses.
Ephesians 5:3-7
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
We talk about the mark and when it's to be enforced and who will accept or refuse, but the scriptures say that all recieve it. EVERYONE!
Revelation 14:9-11
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
We've all recieved the mark of disobedience, but what's the difference between those who shall drink the wine of the wrath of God and those who don't?
Ephesians 5:8-10
For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth
10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. The mark was and still is sin. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Sin in the Bible is defined as transgression (disobedience) to the law.
Revelation 14:12-13
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
Buying and selling is about the truth of God. Whatever it is, including religion: if it is promoted by the mainstream, the beast system allows it because it is not the truth. Most people believe whatever is promoted by the media. Television shapes our view of the world. But if the beast system controls television, we then base our reality on what it promotes.
Revelation 3:17-18
Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Proverbs 23:23
Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
Isaiah 55:1-3
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
2Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. 3Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
One more time:
Revelation 13:15-18
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
The verse here says all! That's every living man woman and child on the earth! Sin is the transgression of the law and all have sinned.
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
I have stated it before, and I will state it again. If you are waiting on some form of microchip to decide on whether you can buy or sell anything you are in grave error! Buying and selling is about the TRUE Gospel message! Now let's look at verse 17.
Exodus 13:6-9
Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the LORD.
7Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters.
8And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the LORD did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt. 9And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD's law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
The Bible is meant to be read with a spiritual eye. A day is as a thousand years with the Lord so for seven thousand years we are to obey the Lord only! We are NOT to mix the truth of God with any pagan worship! On the seventh day is a feast of the Lord (Jesus returning to earth).
The name of the Beast. How many names do we have for God? Jehovah, YHWH, Yahweh, and Allah just to name a few. Although there are many names, how do we know spiritually that it is the Most High God we are calling on?
Exodus 32:13
13Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
The Sabbath is a sign to be kept forever! It is the sign of indentification. It identifies the one true God with his people. Again, using the spiritual eye we know that a day with the Lord is as 1000 years.... But this DOESN'T apply here! In Genesis, we have God creating in six days and resting IN the seventh. Then we notice that with the forming of Adam it was the Lord God! We must be circumcised on the eighth day as we are STILL in God's spiritual seventh day!
The number of His name. Are there three in one, two in one, or one with three manifestations?
Deuteronomy 6:1-8
1Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
2That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
3Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
6And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
7And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
Who is Israel's God? The same God that Jesus had! Even in Revelation, Jesus had a God as He is a Spirit!
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
God made man in His image and since then, man has been trying to make God in theirs! It reminds me of the movie "Groundhog day." Man will not come out of the sixth day into the rest of the seventh!
O
So -- I've read your posts -- I'm completely confused -- what are you talking about?
Do you believe that Jesus died to help you live this life, to love you, teach you the way He loves You, and glorify himself through you -- that's what He wants to do. Revealing the anti- christ at this moment really seems to be of no help. Its just getting you really excited and focused on things of this world.
M
Hi OreoSoleil, Thankyou for your thoughts.
"Do you believe that Jesus died to help you live this life, to love you, teach you the way He loves You, and glorify himself through you." Yes I do!
"Revealing the anti- christ at this moment really seems to be of no help." I know!
"Its just getting you really excited and focused on things of this world." I cant stop now! (people like you are worth it)
Watch this video if you want. YouTube - The Last Revelation
"Do you believe that Jesus died to help you live this life, to love you, teach you the way He loves You, and glorify himself through you." Yes I do!
"Revealing the anti- christ at this moment really seems to be of no help." I know!
"Its just getting you really excited and focused on things of this world." I cant stop now! (people like you are worth it)
Watch this video if you want. YouTube - The Last Revelation
Peace be to you
I have these marks on my right hand and forhead.Here is my question to you isreal if there not visible how do I know and am sure I have them.I know the bible is spiritual.The beast spoke in revelation is to come to life,I have seen it with my own eyes(which beast I am not sure,God knows)I have seen its eye manifest in others eyes,at first I thought they were satan worshipers now I know they were just people in darkness.
For one cannot see the kindom of heaven unless he is born or water and spirit.
We can see spiritual things;revelation is revealed in the spirit.Cain was given a mark that none should kill him.
What im saying is the spiritual real is real.We just have to be in the spirit to see it.
I have these marks on my right hand and forhead.Here is my question to you isreal if there not visible how do I know and am sure I have them.I know the bible is spiritual.The beast spoke in revelation is to come to life,I have seen it with my own eyes(which beast I am not sure,God knows)I have seen its eye manifest in others eyes,at first I thought they were satan worshipers now I know they were just people in darkness.
For one cannot see the kindom of heaven unless he is born or water and spirit.
We can see spiritual things;revelation is revealed in the spirit.Cain was given a mark that none should kill him.
What im saying is the spiritual real is real.We just have to be in the spirit to see it.
M
One slight problem
If the Antichrist has been revealed then I have missed the rapture
quick someone!!
go ring the mormons and see if they are still here
If the Antichrist has been revealed then I have missed the rapture
quick someone!!
go ring the mormons and see if they are still here
Don't worry...nobody's missed the gathering. You will get to see the whole thing unfold.
You're not going to escape the Great Tribulation though...lol...Nobody is.
...your future, like everyone else on Earth, is going to be a Terrible Horror, brought on by The Two Witnesses.
"THEY" reveal the Beast...to the entire planet...live...lol...
You will see the pope put in charge of getting rid of them.
then you will see the pope conquer and kill them
then you will hear the seventh and last trumpet sound...
sorry...lol...
M
Hello seeker,
The mark on the forehead is the fake catholic baptism when they put a cross (with oil called Chrism) on your forehead.
The mark on the right hand is to make the sign of the cross with the right hand. (shows you belong to the pope)
The Beast has an image which speaks. Many catholics report the crucifix talking to them including st Francis of Assisi.
now you have found...
I
The right hand and forehead is a symbol of one's thoughts and actions.
Revelation 13:16-17
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
We see that the beast causes ALL to receive a mark either in their right hand or their foreheads. Now let's compare this to what God said.
Exodus 13:1-9
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine.
3And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten.
4This day came ye out in the month Abib.
5And it shall be when the LORD shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee, a land flowing with milk and honey, that thou shalt keep this service in this month.
6Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the LORD.
7Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters.
8And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the LORD did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt. 9And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD's law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
Leaven represents sin and bread is the word of God or the law in our mouths. It is God's sign or mark unto us upon our hand and for a memorial between our eyes or forehead! But the Bible states that all have sinned are indeed, filled with some form of leaven! How are we to remove this mark of sin or the beast?
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
We must be washed, sanctified and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. We must fully understand what this means though...
The mark is sin, but what does the Bible say about the name of the beast? The one thing we should realize is that the enemy is not coming saying to us that he wishes us evil! It is the opposite as he comes in the name of love!
2 Corinthians 11:12-15
But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
The dragon gives the beast his power as it comes to us as the very names we use for God Himself! Whatever we call God; Jesus, Allah, Jehovah, YHWH, Yahweh or any other name we use, it is the spirit behind the name that counts! So how are we to know that for whatever name we call on, that it is indeed the true and living God we are reaching out to?
Exodus 31:12-14
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
13Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. 14Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
This is the identifying sign of the Lord. We must understand His Sabbath and enter into His rest as those who are defiling its end will be according to their works.
The number of the beast name.. what is it?
Muslims say that Allah is the only God. Christians say that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit is God, the Jews YHWH is the only God. In the world, this is DIVISION!!
1 Corinthians 1:10-13
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
11For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
We are to be one! Joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. We are to be one in spirit!! It is in the spirit, where one really accepts or denies Christ.
Romans 7:24-25
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
We know what we worship. And if we are dead to the law of the true and living God, is not our God able to do the same for the laws of other faiths as well? Or is the law of Allah still binding? God forbid as we are all baptized into Christ's death. We follow the law of the Bible as a Muslim follows the law of the Qu'ran... WITH THE FLESH! But for the righteous Christian and Muslim, in the mind or spirit, they follow the law of God!
Deuteronomy 6:
Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
6And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
7And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
The Lord is one. One in spirit. And when we observe to do this, indeed it will be well with us that we will increase mightily!
We are told to love God with all our being. This love is demonstrate in the second great commandment as Jesus pointed out, in loving our neighbors as ourselves! So to the Muslim, I preach peace. To the Jew, I preach peace. To the catholic, I preach peace. To all men of the faith, I preach peace! For all those who obey these commandments are one in spirit as we all believe. For not the hearers of the law, but the doers are justified.
The beast's number is that of a man. 666. Man was created in day six. Not a literal day, but a spiritual day or age as mankind was made in this period. Now ask yourself this question. How was Adam made in the similtude of He who was to come if he was the only man to begin with? The natural man was made on day six. Day seven man was made in the mold of the natural man for the purpose of tilling the ground. That spirit of life breathed into his nostrils was of the same spirit that was in Jesus... The word of God. Adam was given a personal knowledge of the true and living God. He became a living soul similar to what Jesus stated in that his words are spirit and they are life! The natural man on day six was allowed to eat from every tree of the field as Adam was not allowed. He was given a commandment. Why? Because this is the period that started the prophetic days of eating unleavened bread! He was sanctified by God to do the work of planting the seed of the living word of God to mankind.
Romans 1:19-25
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
In mankind's refusal to come out of the sixth day and into the rest of the seventh, we continue to defile it and thus bring upon us the curse. The wrath of God which is poured upon those who have the mark of the beast. For they are the children of disobedience.
B
Let's try this again, as we are to let the Bible interpret the Bible.
Ephesians 12:6
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Romans 13:1-7
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves ****ation.
3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
1 Timothy 2:1-2
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
The mark of the beast has nothing to do with microchips or any other visible sign of alligance. Buying and selling has nothing to do with tangile, literal goods and services. We know that there is no literal beast that's going to rise out of the sea. We need only to apply that same logic here as well. This is spiritual. The beast already has control over everything mainstream. Governments, television, music, and anything else that reaches the masses.
Ephesians 5:3-7
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
We talk about the mark and when it's to be enforced and who will accept or refuse, but the scriptures say that all recieve it. EVERYONE!
Revelation 14:9-11
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
We've all recieved the mark of disobedience, but what's the difference between those who shall drink the wine of the wrath of God and those who don't?
Ephesians 5:8-10
For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth 10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
The mark was and still is sin. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Sin in the Bible is defined as transgression (disobedience) to the law.
Revelation 14:12-13
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
Buying and selling is about the truth of God. Whatever it is, including religion: if it is promoted by the mainstream, the beast system allows it because it is not the truth. Most people believe whatever is promoted by the media. Television shapes our view of the world. But if the beast system controls television, we then base our reality on what it promotes.
Revelation 3:17-18
Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Proverbs 23:23
Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
Isaiah 55:1-3
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
2Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. 3Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
One more time:
Revelation 13:15-18
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
The verse here says all! That's every living man woman and child on the earth! Sin is the transgression of the law and all have sinned.
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
I have stated it before, and I will state it again. If you are waiting on some form of microchip to decide on whether you can buy or sell anything you are in grave error! Buying and selling is about the TRUE Gospel message! Now let's look at verse 17.
Exodus 13:6-9
Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the LORD.
7Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters.
8And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the LORD did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt. 9And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD's law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
The Bible is meant to be read with a spiritual eye. A day is as a thousand years with the Lord so for seven thousand years we are to obey the Lord only! We are NOT to mix the truth of God with any pagan worship! On the seventh day is a feast of the Lord (Jesus returning to earth).
The name of the Beast. How many names do we have for God? Jehovah, YHWH, Yahweh, and Allah just to name a few. Although there are many names, how do we know spiritually that it is the Most High God we are calling on?
Exodus 32:13
13Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
The Sabbath is a sign to be kept forever! It is the sign of indentification. It identifies the one true God with his people. Again, using the spiritual eye we know that a day with the Lord is as 1000 years.... But this DOESN'T apply here! In Genesis, we have God creating in six days and resting IN the seventh. Then we notice that with the forming of Adam it was the Lord God! We must be circumcised on the eighth day as we are STILL in God's spiritual seventh day!
The number of His name. Are there three in one, two in one, or one with three manifestations?
Deuteronomy 6:1-8
1Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
2That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
3Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
6And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
7And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
Who is Israel's God? The same God that Jesus had! Even in Revelation, Jesus had a God as He is a Spirit!
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
God made man in His image and since then, man has been trying to make God in theirs! It reminds me of the movie "Groundhog day." Man will not come out of the sixth day into the rest of the seventh!
Ephesians 12:6
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Romans 13:1-7
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves ****ation.
3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
1 Timothy 2:1-2
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
The mark of the beast has nothing to do with microchips or any other visible sign of alligance. Buying and selling has nothing to do with tangile, literal goods and services. We know that there is no literal beast that's going to rise out of the sea. We need only to apply that same logic here as well. This is spiritual. The beast already has control over everything mainstream. Governments, television, music, and anything else that reaches the masses.
Ephesians 5:3-7
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
We talk about the mark and when it's to be enforced and who will accept or refuse, but the scriptures say that all recieve it. EVERYONE!
Revelation 14:9-11
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
We've all recieved the mark of disobedience, but what's the difference between those who shall drink the wine of the wrath of God and those who don't?
Ephesians 5:8-10
For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth
10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. The mark was and still is sin. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Sin in the Bible is defined as transgression (disobedience) to the law.
Revelation 14:12-13
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
Buying and selling is about the truth of God. Whatever it is, including religion: if it is promoted by the mainstream, the beast system allows it because it is not the truth. Most people believe whatever is promoted by the media. Television shapes our view of the world. But if the beast system controls television, we then base our reality on what it promotes.
Revelation 3:17-18
Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Proverbs 23:23
Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.
Isaiah 55:1-3
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
2Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. 3Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
One more time:
Revelation 13:15-18
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
The verse here says all! That's every living man woman and child on the earth! Sin is the transgression of the law and all have sinned.
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
I have stated it before, and I will state it again. If you are waiting on some form of microchip to decide on whether you can buy or sell anything you are in grave error! Buying and selling is about the TRUE Gospel message! Now let's look at verse 17.
Exodus 13:6-9
Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the LORD.
7Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters.
8And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the LORD did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt. 9And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD's law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
The Bible is meant to be read with a spiritual eye. A day is as a thousand years with the Lord so for seven thousand years we are to obey the Lord only! We are NOT to mix the truth of God with any pagan worship! On the seventh day is a feast of the Lord (Jesus returning to earth).
The name of the Beast. How many names do we have for God? Jehovah, YHWH, Yahweh, and Allah just to name a few. Although there are many names, how do we know spiritually that it is the Most High God we are calling on?
Exodus 32:13
13Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
The Sabbath is a sign to be kept forever! It is the sign of indentification. It identifies the one true God with his people. Again, using the spiritual eye we know that a day with the Lord is as 1000 years.... But this DOESN'T apply here! In Genesis, we have God creating in six days and resting IN the seventh. Then we notice that with the forming of Adam it was the Lord God! We must be circumcised on the eighth day as we are STILL in God's spiritual seventh day!
The number of His name. Are there three in one, two in one, or one with three manifestations?
Deuteronomy 6:1-8
1Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
2That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
3Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
6And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
7And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
Who is Israel's God? The same God that Jesus had! Even in Revelation, Jesus had a God as He is a Spirit!
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
God made man in His image and since then, man has been trying to make God in theirs! It reminds me of the movie "Groundhog day." Man will not come out of the sixth day into the rest of the seventh!
God Bless you Brother for you have eye's to see, Our Father know's your fight, you are one of our Father' s Angels with wisdom!! a messnger!!! and I thank him for you!! and its for all that can HEAR!!
13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
Your Labor will Follow you my Brother "Keep the good fight"
I really love reading your Post!!! Glori be to our Father!!!
"In His Service"
B
disobedience. 7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
We talk about the mark and when it's to be enforced and who will accept or refuse, but the scriptures say that all recieve it. EVERYONE!
Revelation 14:9-11
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The Mark of the Beast is: "what" your thinking.What work you do with your Hands,
Not a tatto,not a chip.
"In His Service"
Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
We talk about the mark and when it's to be enforced and who will accept or refuse, but the scriptures say that all recieve it. EVERYONE!
Revelation 14:9-11
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The Mark of the Beast is: "what" your thinking.What work you do with your Hands,
Not a tatto,not a chip.
"In His Service"
Thanks BestBeWishing; The mark of the beast can be found everywhere; it is a look on your own face of, anger,bitterness,or confusion!
Mostl have recieved it already; Some have taken the time to get rid of it; and when Bonehead shows up, those that did,t have it,are about to get a big one, CONFUSED!!!
Love to ALL in CHRIST!!!
Mostl have recieved it already; Some have taken the time to get rid of it; and when Bonehead shows up, those that did,t have it,are about to get a big one, CONFUSED!!!
Love to ALL in CHRIST!!!