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AnandaHya

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sorry, i didn't think you'd take offense to that...
and yes i can believe what i want, everyone in here seems to do likewise.
I have read a book called apollyonrising2012... highly recommend EVERYONE read it, because it's a real huge eye opener as to who is "in bed with" Apollyon...
but I have mentioned the book before and my suggestion gets ignored because like i said 'everyone believes what they want'...
sorry just feeling prickly. it doesn't really have to do with you. apollyon I don't know. if you want to believe he is the beast from the sea it doesn't really make that much of a difference since the beast of the sea will be given Satan's power and dominion. You can call him whoever you like. there is a lot going on.

what do you know of 2012? (perhaps a different thread)

there is even a movie about it on netflix, haven't watched it yet.

anyways sorry just still a little annoyed, never thought I would be told my words were threatening. wouldn't annoy me if I wasn't trying to be nice. lol probably should laugh about it. :) its a new one for me :)

Do you find me scary and threatening? lol

 
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silverwind

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sorry just feeling prickly. it doesn't really have to do with you. apollyon I don't know. if you want to believe he is the beast from the sea it doesn't really make that much of a difference since the beast of the sea will be given Satan's power and dominion. You can call him whoever you like. there is a lot going on.

what do you know of 2012? (perhaps a different thread)

there is even a movie about it on netflix, haven't watched it yet.

anyways sorry just still a little annoyed, never thought I would be told my words were threatening. wouldn't annoy me if I wasn't trying to be nice. lol probably should laugh about it. :) its a new one for me :)

Do you find me scary and threatening? lol

nope, not scary or threatening.
i don't know you and you don't know me, we type stuff and assume we get to know one another that way. my humour isn't your humour, and so on.... it's ok.
we need to keep in mind this is a forum. that's all.

i watched the movie 2012, the modern Noah's Ark looked really cool, lol... the movie didn't scare me, but if similar things are to happen to our planet, it wouldn't surprise me... scripture is pretty clear on the judgments that are coming.
anyways...
sure, make a thread... maybe 2012 will be an interesting year ;)
 
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sorry, i didn't think you'd take offense to that...
and yes i can believe what i want, everyone in here seems to do likewise.
I have read a book called apollyonrising2012... highly recommend EVERYONE read it, because it's a real huge eye opener as to who is "in bed with" Apollyon...
but I have mentioned the book before and my suggestion gets ignored because like i said 'everyone believes what they want'...
There are those that have unity in the faith and don't believe just what they want to. I do not look at you as one who believes what she wants, but one who considers very carefully the faith that we have been given through God's word. That is the faith of the Son of God and what Christ will be looking for and the true worshipers that He is seeking. You have contributed to my faith and I am grateful to you and to God for that contribution.
 
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silverwind

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There are those that have unity in the faith and don't believe just what they want to. I do not look at you as one who believes what she wants, but one who considers very carefully the faith that we have been given through God's word. That is the faith of the Son of God and what Christ will be looking for and the true worshipers that He is seeking. You have contributed to my faith and I am grateful to you and to God for that contribution.
Thanks Red, I appreciate that post.
Perhaps for my own sake it would be fair to rephrase "i believe what i want" to "i'm firmly grounded in what i believe" although there have been times where I sometimes even question my own beliefs in certain areas of "doctrine". I have enjoyed your posts, especially when you have a multitude of back-up Scripture verses. :)

SW
 
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Moshelijah

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does john switch from talking about Jerusalem in 11:8 to then describing Rome or some other great city?
Absolutely why not?

Revelation 11:8
And their dead bodies lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.
Notice in this verse John is very careful with his figurative description?

spiritually:
Original Word: πνευματικῶς
Part of Speech: Adverb
Transliteration: pneumatikós
Phonetic Spelling: (pnyoo-mat-ik-oce')
Short Definition: spiritually
Definition: spiritually, in a spiritual way; from a spiritual point of view.

He compares Jerusalem to Sodom and Egypt not Babylon.

Revelation 14:8
A second angel followed and said, "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries."
When has or when will Jerusalem make ALL THE NATIONS do anything???

Revelation 14:20
They were trampled in the winepress outside the city, and blood flowed out of the press, rising as high as the horses' bridles for a distance of 1,600 stadia.
These are a lot of people. some estimate 200,000,000. Sound familiar? 200,000,000

Revelation 18:2
With a mighty voice he shouted: "Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.
The word home

a habitation​
Original Word: κατοικητήριον, ου, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: katoikétérion
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-oy-kay-tay'-ree-on)
Short Definition: a habitation, dwelling-place
Definition: a habitation, dwelling-place, abode.

These unclean birds never leave! Thats not Jerusalems future is it?



Revelation 18:10
Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry: "'Woe! Woe, O great city, O Babylon, city of power! In one hour your doom has come!'
Again the world never mourns Jerusalem!
 
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Moshelijah

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ummm mosheljah, don't you know/ have read zone's views on the Milennium? she's posted them quite frequently....she's amillennial
zone beleives this?

For amillennialists, Satan is presently bound and Christians are now enjoying the benefits of the millennium. Some amillennialists claim that the millennium also involves the reigning of saints who are now in heaven. Amillennialists claim that the 1000-year period that is mentioned in Revelation 20:1–6 refers to a long indefinite period of time between the two comings of Christ and is not a literal 1000- year period that occurs after Jesus’ return. Because amillennialists believe Christ is currently reigning in the millennium, some, like Jay Adams, believe the title “Realized Millennialism” is a more appropriate title than “Amillennialism.”

http://www.theologicalstudies.org/amillennialism.html
 

zone

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Absolutely why not?!
ya ok.

Notice in this verse John is very careful with his figurative description?

spiritually:
Original Word: πνευματικῶς
Part of Speech: Adverb
Transliteration: pneumatikós
Phonetic Spelling: (pnyoo-mat-ik-oce')
Short Definition: spiritually
Definition: spiritually, in a spiritual way; from a spiritual point of view.

He compares Jerusalem to Sodom and Egypt not Babylon.!
oh ok!
spiritual Sodom and Egypt is ok, but spiritual Babylon isn't?
especially since they went to Babylon and the Pharisees built a religion there and brought it to Jerusalem? coincidence?

Romans 9:29
And as Isaiah predicted, “If the Lord of hosts had not left us offspring, we would have been like Sodom and become like Gomorrah.”

concerning (Egypt) slavery:

Galatians 4
Bond and Free
21Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the bondwoman and one by the free woman. 23But the son by the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and the son by the free woman through the promise. 24This is allegorically speaking, for these women are two covenants: one proceeding from Mount Sinai bearing children who are to be slaves; she is Hagar. 25Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother.

as for idolatry (fornication) Sodom, well:

Jeremiah 3:8
She saw that for all the adulteries of that faithless one, Israel, I had sent her away with a decree of divorce. Yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear, but she too went and played the whore.

Ezekiel 16:46
Your older sister was Samaria, who lived to the north of you with her daughters; and your younger sister, who lived to the south of you with her daughters, was Sodom.

so, since the oral Traditions of The Pharisees is what we know of today as the Talmud/Zohar/Kabbalah, why wouldn't Jerusalem be called Mystery, Babylon?


BABYLONIAN TALMUD

Revelation 17:5
And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

μυστηριον noun - nominative singular neuter
musterion moos-tay'-ree-on: a secret or mystery (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites) -- mystery.

When has or when will Jerusalem make ALL THE NATIONS do anything???!
oh come on!




Dr. Mandelstam said on August 29 at the opening of the Zionist Congress of 1897:
"The Jews will use all their influence and power to prevent the rise and prosperity of other nations and are resolved to adhere to their historic hopes; i.e., to the conquest of world power."
LE TEMPS, Paris, September 3,1897.

President Wilson wrote:
"we know that something intervenes between the people of the U. S. and the control of their own affairs at Washington."
FAR AND WIDE, p. 327.

"A note drawn up by the American official (intelligence) services and transmitted by the High Commissioner of the French Republic in the United States, contained the following passage: 'In February 1916, it was learned for the first time that a revolution was being fomented in Russia. It was discovered that the undermentioned persons and concerns were engaged in this enterprise of destruction:
(1) Jacob Schiff; (2) Kuhn, Loeb & Co., Directors: Jacob Schiff, Felix Warburg, Otto Kahn, Mortimer Schiff, Jerome Hanauer; (3) Guggenheim; (4) Max Breitung."
(From the American Consulate, Elbridge D. Rand, American Consul, Geneva, Switzerland, dated January 21, 1929.) National Archives, Dept. of State, Decimal File, 1910-1929, No. 861.4016/325.

. . . I think that a Jewish Palestine must become a war aim for America . . . "
Letter of Dr. Chaim Weizmann to Justice Louis D. Brandeis, Supreme Court, dated January 14 1918

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and so on.....please let's just get real. what do you think is actually happening in Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Egypt/Yemen/Libya/Syria and soon IRAN?....do you know WHY?: ask our bother Avinu who posts at CC...he's honest.

Vice PM: Strike on Iran could be necessary

Vice Prime Minister and Strategic Affairs Minister Moshe Ya'alon says the civilized world must take joint action to avert the Iranian nuclear threat.
Vice PM: Strike on Iran could be necessary - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News


IN CASE ANYONE HASN'T NOTICED, IRAN HAS NO NUCLAER THREAT AND HASN'T INVADED ANOTHER COUNTRY FOR CENTURIES.

don't you know what's really going on?




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The word home

a habitation​
Original Word: κατοικητήριον, ου, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: katoikétérion
Phonetic Spelling: (kat-oy-kay-tay'-ree-on)
Short Definition: a habitation, dwelling-place
Definition: a habitation, dwelling-place, abode.

These unclean birds never leave! Thats not Jerusalems future is it?!
huh?
all that means is that Jerusalem is filled with sin and idolatry and witchcraft: which it is.
that happens before the wrath comes.

do you think God overlooks this?

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  1. often [FONT=arial,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Kabbalah[/SIZE][/FONT] A body of mystical teachings of rabbinical origin, often based on an esoteric interpretation of the Hebrew Scriptures.
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Revelation 17:5
And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

μυστηριον noun - nominative singular neuter
musterion moos-tay'-ree-on: a secret or mystery (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites) -- mystery.
 
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zone

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zone beleives this?

For amillennialists, Satan is presently bound and Christians are now enjoying the benefits of the millennium. Some amillennialists claim that the millennium also involves the reigning of saints who are now in heaven. Amillennialists claim that the 1000-year period that is mentioned in Revelation 20:1–6 refers to a long indefinite period of time between the two comings of Christ and is not a literal 1000- year period that occurs after Jesus’ return. Because amillennialists believe Christ is currently reigning in the millennium, some, like Jay Adams, believe the title “Realized Millennialism” is a more appropriate title than “Amillennialism.”

http://www.theologicalstudies.org/amillennialism.html
yep.
absolutely.
 
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peterT

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How does an organisation reach 6.5 billion people in 1260 days?

How many countries are there in the world? 195 countries.

He doesn’t have to reach 6.5 b.

He just has to threaten the leaders of the world with destruction, 195 countries, + the ones he destroyed to get in to his authority.

And get them to give people the mark. And they will be lining up day and night to get the mark, because you won’t be a bull to buy or sell without it.

And the quicker you get it the better of you will be financially .
 
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Moshelijah

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How many countries are there in the world? 195 countries.

He doesn’t have to reach 6.5 b.

He just has to threaten the leaders of the world with destruction, 195 countries, + the ones he destroyed to get in to his authority.

And get them to give people the mark. And they will be lining up day and night to get the mark, because you won’t be a bull to buy or sell without it.

And the quicker you get it the better of you will be financially .

...hmmm they'de better get it done in about 40 days or so...

Humans tend to give up the ghost by then!
 

zone

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...hmmm they'de better get it done in about 40 days or so...

Humans tend to give up the ghost by then!
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is the microchip the "mark" of Revelation?
i do not know.

is it a reality and do the bad guys intend to do it? absolutely.
 
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Mary is properly called the mother of God. Unless of course you deny the fact that Jesus IS God. Mary is the mother of Jesus, who is the second person in the Trinity.
Mary is the mother of Jesus, the man. He was the Son of God. There is no trinity in the Bible. God & the Holy Spirit aren't persons. When you say this you are bringing God down to mans level.
 
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He can't. His "proofs" have been disproven by Scripture in this thread numerous times. He just tends to ignore them.
Many times the fallacy of the RCC has been listed & you ignore them so whats the difference??
 
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Moshelijah

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is the microchip the "mark" of Revelation?
i do not know.

is it a reality and do the bad guys intend to do it? absolutely.

Mark 7:15
There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.



The Mark of the beast or
(The sign of your membership into the Roman catholic church (or her daughters))

Is to receive a cross on your forehead instead of, an immersion at your baptism.
In doing so you default on your circumcision. Thats our part of The Everlasting deal...

 
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AnandaHya

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I always thought that the mark of the beast was someone with a evil spirit inside them, not around and talking but inside them. I meet a person who told me they shared their body half the time with a demon and that they had a knife for every new "friend" they meet and made just in case they had to kill that person. Luckily we have lost contact and haven't spoken to that person in the last decade.

I thought the mark of God is having the Holy Spirit placed inside of you. why is it everyone talks about the mark of the Beast but no one really talks about how God marks His people?