Anyone know why it's called Christian "Identity?"

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Johann

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Okay, great, thank you. Do you happen to have source?
Ana Bochicchio's article titled "Justification by Race: Wesley Swift’s White Supremacy and Anti-Semitic Theological Views in His Christian Identity Sermons" published on October 5, 2021, explores Minister Wesley Albert Swift's discourses within the Christian Identity movement. The article delves into the racial theology of Christian Identity and its socio-historical context during the 1950s and 1960s

The essay "Christian Identity and Religions of America" by Joseph Baker and Brianna McMillan provides insights into Wesley Swift's role in the Christian Identity movement. It discusses Swift's theological contributions, including his emphasis on racial superiority and anti-Semitic views within the movement. The essay highlights Swift's foundational role in shaping Christian Identity post-World War II.

--and then, of course, Wiki.-which I don't trust.
Shalom
J.
 

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Ana Bochicchio's article titled "Justification by Race: Wesley Swift’s White Supremacy and Anti-Semitic Theological Views in His Christian Identity Sermons" published on October 5, 2021, explores Minister Wesley Albert Swift's discourses within the Christian Identity movement. The article delves into the racial theology of Christian Identity and its socio-historical context during the 1950s and 1960s

The essay "Christian Identity and Religions of America" by Joseph Baker and Brianna McMillan provides insights into Wesley Swift's role in the Christian Identity movement. It discusses Swift's theological contributions, including his emphasis on racial superiority and anti-Semitic views within the movement. The essay highlights Swift's foundational role in shaping Christian Identity post-World War II.

--and then, of course, Wiki.-which I don't trust.
Shalom
J.
Thanks but I was asking specifically about your statement: "The term "Identity" was intended to differentiate this theology from the understanding that Jesus was Jewish." Can you tell me where this comes from? From you or from another source? Can you be more specific, like which article and which page number.
 
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Thanks but I was asking specifically about your statement: "The term "Identity" was intended to differentiate this theology from the understanding that Jesus was Jewish." Can you tell me where this comes from? From you or from another source? Can you be more specific, like which article and which page number.
it comes from the book of baloney, and the book of cod wallop.

This I know 😁

I also Know Jesus was not a Jew, Jesus was born into the descendants of the tribe of Judah.

The tribe of judah was chosen because God decided to choose them.

Jews where only called Jews because they where born in a place where the t judah settled. No other reason, if people born in that place after judha settled there they where called lots of names like Jew and even Jude.

If anything Jesus was a Hebrew 😊
 

Johann

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Thanks but I was asking specifically about your statement: "The term "Identity" was intended to differentiate this theology from the understanding that Jesus was Jewish." Can you tell me where this comes from? From you or from another source? Can you be more specific, like which article and which page number.
Just gave you the source-just Google it-In the last days knowledge shall increase.
J.
 

HeIsHere

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The Christian Identity movement, characterized by beliefs in white supremacy and anti-Semitism, traces its roots back to British-Israelism. This movement sought to establish white Anglo-Saxons as the true chosen people of God, with the belief that the white inhabitants of the British Isles are the actual tribes of Israel. The formal articulation of these beliefs occurred in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, with the establishment of the British-Israel-World Federation in 1919

One of the key figures credited with coining the term "Christian Identity" and elaborating on racial and political theology was Wesley Swift, a Methodist minister who founded the Church of Jesus Christ—Christian. Swift's teachings rooted anti-Semitism in biblical justifications and promoted the idea that Jews were the literal spawn of Satan and Eve from the Garden of Eden

The Christian Identity movement emerged in the United States in the 1920s and 1930s as an offshoot of British Israelism. It advocates a racial interpretation of Christianity, asserting that European peoples are the descendants of ancient Israelites and God's chosen people. This movement is characterized by beliefs in racial segregation, opposition to interracial marriage, anti-Semitic views, and white supremacist ideologies

Overall, Christian Identity is a controversial and extremist movement that promotes divisive and discriminatory beliefs based on racial interpretations of Christianity. It has been widely criticized for its racist, anti-Semitic, and white supremacist ideologies.

Hope this answer your question.
J.
Ya know copy and pasting without citing your source is plagiarism.
 

Johann

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No you didn't. That's okay.
Ana Bochicchio's article titled "Justification by Race: Wesley Swift’s White Supremacy and Anti-Semitic Theological Views in His Christian Identity Sermons" published on October 5, 2021, explores Minister Wesley Albert Swift's discourses within the Christian Identity movement. The article delves into the racial theology of Christian Identity and its socio-historical context during the 1950s and 1960s

The essay "Christian Identity and Religions of America" by Joseph Baker and Brianna McMillan provides insights into Wesley Swift's role in the Christian Identity movement. It discusses Swift's theological contributions, including his emphasis on racial superiority and anti-Semitic views within the movement. The essay highlights Swift's foundational role in shaping Christian Identity post-World War II.

I can't take your hand and Google it for you-the information I just gave you is free-you just need to dig.
J.
 

Johann

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Ya know copy and pasting without citing your source is plagiarism.
I have seen some lazy Westerners-and from experience I have learned that even if I give links, it is rejected.
J.
 

HeIsHere

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I have seen some lazy Westerners-and from experience I have learned that even if I give links, it is rejected.
J.
So you prefer to plagiarize than be dismissed.

Sorry that is no excuse, although I admit that some people in the west believe Breitbart News is a credible news source. :D
 

HeIsHere

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"Indifferent"
J.
You can be indifferent but I do remember back in the day on CC when people were banned for plagiarizing.

It is after all an act of theft.
 

Johann

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So you prefer to plagiarize than be dismissed.

Sorry that is no excuse, although I admit that some people in the west believe Breitbart News is a credible news source. :D
I am not interested in politics-I know you are.
J.
 

JohnDB

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they sound like Zionists to me,
I don't think that word means what you think it means.

There's this thing called a dictionary....there are many online. You might want to use it occasionally for these big words okay?
 

JohnDB

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"Christian Identity (also known as Identity Christianity) is an interpretation of Christianity which advocates the belief that only Celtic and Germanic peoples, such as the Anglo-Saxon, Nordic nations, or people of the Aryan race and people of kindred blood, are the descendants of the ancient Israelites and are therefore God's 'chosen people.' " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

Just to be clear I don't have anything to do with this group. I'm just curious about the origin of the name. Why would white supremacists choose this name? What does it have to do with their philosophy?
Wow...
Why does someone have to try and make a mockery out of every Christian expression by incorporating hate into the mix?
 
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I don't think that word means what you think it means.

There's this thing called a dictionary....there are many online. You might want to use it occasionally for these big words okay?
.plain and simple the lord chose mount Zion has a place from where he would dwell


Zion is a place sir where he also chose the Israelites to dwell.

People are called Zionistw because they believe there more special than anyone else. Having been born in that place.

And Christian behave the same way.

The word is Zionists sir.

Plain and simple the Zionists have been sent into exile.
 

Nehemiah6

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There also Christian Zionists who say the same thing, like saying Jerusalem belongs to the Jews and the Jews only
It is not "Christian Zionists" who say this. It is GOD who says this. Yes, Jerusalem belongs to Israel and the twelve tribes of Israel.
 

Gideon300

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"Christian Identity (also known as Identity Christianity) is an interpretation of Christianity which advocates the belief that only Celtic and Germanic peoples, such as the Anglo-Saxon, Nordic nations, or people of the Aryan race and people of kindred blood, are the descendants of the ancient Israelites and are therefore God's 'chosen people.' " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

Just to be clear I don't have anything to do with this group. I'm just curious about the origin of the name. Why would white supremacists choose this name? What does it have to do with their philosophy?
Sounds something like the British Israel theory. I was a member of a denomination that subscribed to it. I did a part time Bible course that included that theory. It seemed fairly baseless to me. Even the teacher seemed unconvinced.
 

JaumeJ

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Before Jerusalem wa s ca;;ed sicj. ot was Irisa;e,/ Tje ;atter ,eams cotu pf [eace. tje mew ma,e os Cotu pf Uajwej
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The New Jerusalem is God's and the future home of His children. The jJerusalem on the maps today is but the staging grounds for the last throws of this age wtarring the antichrist and his prophet. It is in the Book.
 

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I know what this group's about, but I've never understood what the "Indentity" part was supposed to mean. I've searched this but can't seem to find a good answer. Anyone know what it means?
Jesus is the son of God , those who believe in him take upon themselves that identity of Gods beloved children

This is a Christian’s new identity and how it comes

“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. ( his son ) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. ( we clothed ourselves with the son of God )There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. ( we aren’t who we used to be )

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”( we are the children of Abraham’s promise in Christ his seed which are Gods beloved children in him alone )
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:26-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬