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phil36

phil36

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Umm I'm not gonna ignore what I know about being baptised for i know it's the right way to be baptised.. By the way, God says don't judge for you will be judged.. You call yourself a christian.. but yet dissin on our denomination/??? Yeah cause i'm sure thats what Jesus would want. I'm sorry that we Pentecostals are the chosen church. And I'm sorry that your to blind to read the truth. I dunno what you been taught in church.... well obviously its to bash on other denominations. But hey when your "witnessing" to someone. Be sure to tell them that you judge other denominations.. Just because your not apart of it. Let God have mercy on your poor poor soul, Try reading a thing called the Holy Bible

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Mmm I don't follow your logic, Jesus had plenty to say with those who held wrong doctrines. anyhow, I do believe you are born again as are those pentecostals who are born again. The big problem is that Dmurray is trying to include himself in with Pentecostals yet He does not believe in the Trinity..which is a central Truth of Christianity. even pentecostals are against and don't want to associate it with the oneness pentecostals. as they are following a heretical belief, that is there is no Trinity.

You have only answered my post with an onslaught of, do not judge, and God have mercy on your soul.. you ahve given no content whatsoever. and most of all no Scriptural content.

I am glad God has had mercy on me, and filled me with the Holy Spirit, that I do not need experience after experience after experience, just to Know Him and His presence.

Phil
 
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phil36 said:
Mmm I don't follow your logic, Jesus had plenty to say with those who held wrong doctrines. anyhow, I do believe you are born again as are those pentecostals who are born again. The big problem is that Dmurray is trying to include himself in with Pentecostals yet He does not believe in the Trinity..which is a central Truth of Christianity. even pentecostals are against and don't want to associate it with the oneness pentecostals. as they are following a heretical belief, that is there is no Trinity.

You have only answered my post with an onslaught of, do not judge, and God have mercy on your soul.. you ahve given no content whatsoever. and most of all no Scriptural content.

I am glad God has had mercy on me, and filled me with the Holy Spirit, that I do not need experience after experience after experience, just to Know Him and His presence.

Phil
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I have a question what is Gods name? Solid scriptual evidence of what his name is.
 
phil36

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Dmurray said:
How can you say I'm not a Christian. Do we worship the same God? Yes. Do we believe Jesus is our savior? Yes
We just have doctrinal differences. As do Baptists, and Catholics, and all sorts.
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Do the JW's Worship the same God, Jimmy Jones, Children of God ? You have more than a doctrinal difference you deny a central truth of Scripture. In fact if I remember correctly, it is not just the Trinity you deny, you also believe 'Justification by works'.

Your statement is either deceiving or you do not know what your own church believes, they do not believe that those who believe in the Trinity or Justification by Faith alone are Christian.

I will remind you of what God says:

"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."


Phil
 
phil36

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Dmurray said:
I have a question what is Gods name? Solid scriptual evidence of what his name is.
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basically His name is... I am what I am :) Trinity

Phil
 
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Dmurray

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Sorry that doesn't cut it though.
However Jesus was sent in His "fathers" name
The Comforter which is the Holy Ghost was sent in Jesus Name

"Baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost"

Jesus knew what he was talking about. the NAME of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost = Jesus
Father is not a name, son is not a name, and Holy Ghost, is not a name.
But Jesus. That is a name.
 
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I don't believe I am justified by my works. But we must still do works. The way I see it is. They are no longer my works, as I'm a vessel of Christ. They are his works that he does through me. "For I am cruicified with Christ, yet I live, not I, but he liveth in me" Galatians 2:20

Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
 
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Dmurray said:
I don't believe I am justified by my works. But we must still do works. The way I see it is. They are no longer my works, as I'm a vessel of Christ. They are his works that he does through me. "For I am cruicified with Christ, yet I live, not I, but he liveth in me" Galatians 2:20

Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
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we know that Faith without works is dead, there is a whole thread on that already. and what you have said about God does not make sense..

You are solely concentrating on and mixing and merging names..

There is God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

We could argue for days and probably will, but the doctrine you hold is heretical, do we have to reinvent the wheel to show you this.

Phil
 
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Dmurray said:
I don't believe I am justified by my works. But we must still do works. The way I see it is. They are no longer my works, as I'm a vessel of Christ. They are his works that he does through me. "For I am cruicified with Christ, yet I live, not I, but he liveth in me" Galatians 2:20

Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
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I take it you only hold some of the oneness doctrine..I.e the heretical part?

I would suggest you read the oneness Pentecostals doctrine of Salvation, it is wrong because it is rooted in your denial of a basic Christian Truth.

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Dmurray

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Just because I may be pentecostal doesn't mean that I have to believe the whole doctrine. i go by what the Bible says. And what I have learned makes sense. PS I have read the oneness Doctrine. I don't know what your talking about though. I would like to know more of what you think the oneness doctrine says.

The Trinity Doesn't make sense. That God is 3 co-equal Co-eternal co-existant beings (The Trinity Doctrine) However it makes sense that God is one being with three separate roles to humanity. God was manifested into the flesh so he may redeem us. God can do whatever he want, and if he wants to be in Heaven and on earth at the same time, he can. :) I don't limit the possibilites of what God can and can't do by saying that he can't be on earth and in Heaven at the same time.
 
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All I can do is ask if you think what I do is wrong that God will reveal himself to me and bring me revelation.
I do this everyday so I can do what is right. So far he hasn't changed any of my views. On oneness or speaking in tongues, although he has brought revelation to me about other things. God Bless.
 
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clarissa

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phil36 said:
Mmm I don't follow your logic, Jesus had plenty to say with those who held wrong doctrines. anyhow, I do believe you are born again as are those pentecostals who are born again. The big problem is that Dmurray is trying to include himself in with Pentecostals yet He does not believe in the Trinity..which is a central Truth of Christianity. even pentecostals are against and don't want to associate it with the oneness pentecostals. as they are following a heretical belief, that is there is no Trinity.

You have only answered my post with an onslaught of, do not judge, and God have mercy on your soul.. you ahve given no content whatsoever. and most of all no Scriptural content.

I am glad God has had mercy on me, and filled me with the Holy Spirit, that I do not need experience after experience after experience, just to Know Him and His presence.

Phil
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For one, I am Pentecostal. Number 2. The word "Trinity" is NOT found in the bible. And if you read Acts 2:38.. It talks about Peter Baptising people under the NAME, You do not see him Baptising people under the names of God. Most people get baptised under the father son and holy ghost, which of course is wrong cause Peter doesnt baptise them that way, he baptises them In Jesus NAME. And number 3, being filled with the Holy Spirit.. is speaking in another tongues. Which appearantly you don't believe in. So therefore, your not filled with the Holy Spirit. Cause you have to Repent, be Baptised in Jesus NAMe, and recieve the Holy Ghost.
 
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