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eternally-gratefull

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Well I find you ideas intriguing, not sure about Islam being the key player, although they definitely have a part to play ..... I will only PM why I think otherwise someday when I have my thoughts more organized.
Islam is powerful. It even worships a moon God. (Making it a player in the harlot) But much like the worshippers of Baal. It is but one small part of the harlot system.

There is a group out there, which has a leader, which can trace his roots all the way back to babylon. Who is full of Idol worship. And is so close to the christian religion. When many here the word, this churches name pretty much immediately comes to the for front. She has a foot hold on the world. Many nations (say like south america and spain) are her followers. She spent many centuries murdering true believers and snuffing them out.

If you notice, This world leader is trying to recieve islam with open arms. Which is dangerous even more.

Either way, the world leader holds HIMSELF up as the messiah When he does this, he will basically denounce every world religion which is out there, He will be forced to remove the one who is a major threat against him, And this is what we see in rev 17, when he slaughters babylon. And its world system which first got its start in Babylon. (Hence the name)
 
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Why I no longer believe the 70th week needs 7 years to be fulfilled...........

a. The Beast makes war against the SAINTS of THE MOST HIGH and wears them out, overcomes and prevails against them for 3.5 years
b. The LITTLE HORN of DANIEL which is the BEAST of REVELATION is described as doing the same thing for 3.5 years
c. The three witnesses witness for 3.5 years and are KILLED then taken to heaven (To make the 1st resurrection this MUST happen BEFORE the RESURRECTION) Blessed is he that HATH PART in the 1st RESURRECTION
d. DANIEL 12 tells us CLEARLY that there are yet 1335 days LEFT when the GREAT TRIBULATION kicks off

NO where does it say the final time period is 7 years.....they say peace and safety....SUDDEN destruction.....<---that does not sound like 3.5 years to me.......

My view......

70th week....7 year period broken down in the following way.....

1185 days <---Ministry of JESUS
30 days PEACE <--sudden destruction
1260 Days of Great Tribulation that Christ must intercede in or NO FLESH is LEFT ALIVE<--PAUL we which are ALIVE and REMAIN
45 days of actual wrath

1333 plus 1185 = 7 years of 360 day years.....WHY do I believe that.....the math above

3.5 years is described as 1260 days, 42 months or a time, times and dividing of time

Regardless of ANY and ALL calendars the above math = 360 day years........

That is my view....I no longer buy the 7 year period that was pushed in almost every church I have been in.....and hardly any pay attention to the above equations given in the bible....
So when is the covenant confirmed with many for 1 week? And why is it in the middle of that week he commits the abomination of desolation. And why is it at the end of that period. CHrist returns to put an ened to it?


Also. History proves jesus entered jerusalem on a donkey on the last day of the 69th week. One week later he was cut off. Just as daniel prophesies. (At the end (literally immediately following the end of the 69th week) messiah shall be cut off. But not for himself)
 
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Just for the record, i believe the beast and antichrist will only have 3.5 years. I believe the 1st 3.5 years of peace is when he assumes control of europe The little horn is revealed when he abominates the temple.
 

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30 years spent studying prophecies about a 7 year period. This in itself is testimony to the futility
of putting too much emphasis on allusions of judgement and victory beyond, amen, God works
through it all even when it looks dark and bleak, still His light shines in His people.

And it took 1 minute to learn this insight, Amen, thank you Jesus.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I believe when christ returns, he will set up his throne, and all who “endured to the end” will have lived through and enter the millennial reign with him. And they will all have children and repopulate the earth.

The rapture is a different time,and jesus does not literally come back to earth (boots on the ground as we call it in the military)
 
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No

I Stated, I gave a counter view.

Yes, they meet in NY

Once again MOTHER OF HARLOTS

NY is not the mother of a false religious system which the whole world has bought into. Nore is she the headquarters for that system. And she has not killed christians or jews or any of Gods people.

Once again, WHEN the US is destroyed, (And I believe she will be) the world will shout for


You just have to love this place.

About me? No it is not about me,

But hey, if thats what all you people think, thats just fine.

If it was not DC who was doing that, but someone else. Beople would probably be agreeing with me, But since it is DC. Well. I have seen these past few months it is a different standard.

I have NO qualm with him telling us his ideas. Or what he thinks, I will even discuss them with him if he wants. I also love him as a brother, I think he knows that, That is not what I was trying to say at all.

But when you come in any thread andd boast of how great you are and all of your hard study, So no one will change you view (ie, dont even try) then there should be an issue with this no matter WHO IT IS.

Its uncalled for.

But if thats how you all want to run, then run..
I see this thing double posted again. Posted something i said yesterday already) .lol sorry
 
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No

I Stated, I gave a counter view.

Yes, they meet in NY

Once again MOTHER OF HARLOTS

NY is not the mother of a false religious system which the whole world has bought into. Nore is she the headquarters for that system. And she has not killed christians or jews or any of Gods people.

Once again, WHEN the US is destroyed, (And I believe she will be) the world will shout for


You just have to love this place.

About me? No it is not about me,

But hey, if thats what all you people think, thats just fine.

If it was not DC who was doing that, but someone else. Beople would probably be agreeing with me, But since it is DC. Well. I have seen these past few months it is a different standard.

I have NO qualm with him telling us his ideas. Or what he thinks, I will even discuss them with him if he wants. I also love him as a brother, I think he knows that, That is not what I was trying to say at all.

But when you come in any thread andd boast of how great you are and all of your hard study, So no one will change you view (ie, dont even try) then there should be an issue with this no matter WHO IT IS.

Its uncalled for.

But if thats how you all want to run, then run..
I believe half the world will shout over it......the others whom we have protected by our military might will be crapping bricks and ALL the economies that crash because of the crash of the dollar will also lose their collective minds
 
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UnderGrace

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Islam is powerful. It even worships a moon God. (Making it a player in the harlot) But much like the worshippers of Baal. It is but one small part of the harlot system.

There is a group out there, which has a leader, which can trace his roots all the way back to babylon. Who is full of Idol worship. And is so close to the christian religion. When many here the word, this churches name pretty much immediately comes to the for front. She has a foot hold on the world. Many nations (say like south america and spain) are her followers. She spent many centuries murdering true believers and snuffing them out.

If you notice, This world leader is trying to recieve islam with open arms. Which is dangerous even more.

Either way, the world leader holds HIMSELF up as the messiah When he does this, he will basically denounce every world religion which is out there, He will be forced to remove the one who is a major threat against him, And this is what we see in rev 17, when he slaughters babylon. And its world system which first got its start in Babylon. (Hence the name)
Interesting how well set up it is....one would think that the players were reading out of the same playbook:unsure:
 
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I have said that true biblical Christianity is to put everyone else first and yourself last............even in prayer we often lift our needs up selfishly.....Jesus told us that the heavenly Father already knows what we need and to just pray...thy will be done...........thanks for the input.......

True words...the path to receivig that heart is another matter, but if the world were full of people with that heart what a redeemed world it would be!
 
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30 years spent studying prophecies about a 7 year period. This in itself is testimony to the futility
of putting too much emphasis on allusions of judgement and victory beyond, amen, God works
through it all even when it looks dark and bleak, still His light shines in His people.

And it took 1 minute to learn this insight, Amen, thank you Jesus.
well now we know :rolleyes:
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I believe half the world will shout over it......the others whom we have protected by our military might will be crapping bricks and ALL the economies that crash because of the crash of the dollar will also lose their collective minds
About the only one which will cry may be Israel. Even the ones we helped in WW2 hate us.. They think we are a bunch of greedy self centered rich brats..

And as I said. They are trying to make it so they are not dependent on the dollar. That will happen BEFORE any of this stuff happen in my view.
 
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About the only one which will cry may be Israel. Even the ones we helped in WW2 hate us.. They think we are a bunch of greedy self centered rich brats..

And as I said. They are trying to make it so they are not dependent on the dollar. That will happen BEFORE any of this stuff happen in my view.
Yeah I don't know about that.....I have many friends in AU and they love America and all have said they hope we never fall because if we do....they will be in trouble as well....

I do agree the dollar will crash probably sooner than later......if Russia and China dumped all our debt that they own and decided to drop our dollar as the world reserve currency.....we will be in deep trouble...
 
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Yeah I don't know about that.....I have many friends in AU and they love America and all have said they hope we never fall because if we do....they will be in trouble as well....

I do agree the dollar will crash probably sooner than later......if Russia and China dumped all our debt that they own and decided to drop our dollar as the world reserve currency.....we will be in deep trouble...
Yes, Au is but one country though.

And yes, If europe and others do what they wish to do. We are in deep trouble. Facts are. The american dollar holds them back. They are prety much slaves to our currency.
 
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Yes, Au is but one country though.

And yes, If europe and others do what they wish to do. We are in deep trouble. Facts are. The american dollar holds them back. They are prety much slaves to our currency.
Fully agree.....look what the world markets did when the U.S. stock exchange was shut down for just a few days after 911.......I have very wealthy friends.....5 guys -->together worth billions.......and they have all said that if the dollar crashes it will destroy most world economies<----Good opportunity for a NEW world order and global identification/monetary economy
 
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Fully agree.....look what the world markets did when the U.S. stock exchange was shut down for just a few days after 911.......I have very wealthy friends.....5 guys -->together worth billions.......and they have all said that if the dollar crashes it will destroy most world economies<----Good opportunity for a NEW world order and global identification/monetary economy
I think this also. Taken with the collapse of some european nations finances..