Are All Angels the Same?
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Angels serve one purpose. Bring the message God gives to them . Other than words they have no combat skills or other attributes . They are simply spirits of truth a or spirts of error . We do no wrestle against flesh and blood the things seen. The same applies to apostles . Those sent with the message or prophecy inspired by God .Apostles are angels sent by God with the word of God
Some say the ark angel called Michael was Jesus . Meaning who is like God? .Which of course in no one. God is not a man as us. he has no beginning or end of Spirit life.
The messenger he has spoken through in the last days that God called His Son .The high apostle of our faith.
Some say the ark angel called Michael was Jesus . Meaning who is like God? .Which of course in no one. God is not a man as us. he has no beginning or end of Spirit life.
The messenger he has spoken through in the last days that God called His Son .The high apostle of our faith.
The cherub (singular) Lucifer became the Adversary (Hebrew ha Satan) or Satan. So just one cherub defected.
Note: There was no need for an "s" at the end of either cherubim or seraphim. Those are already plural in Hebrew (for cherub and seraph).
Note: Apollyon (Greek) = Abbadon (Hebrew) = the Destroyer = Satan = the Devil = the Great Dragon = that old Serpent = Belial = Beelzebub. There is only one king of demons and evil angels.
Note: There was no need for an "s" at the end of either cherubim or seraphim. Those are already plural in Hebrew (for cherub and seraph).
Note: Apollyon (Greek) = Abbadon (Hebrew) = the Destroyer = Satan = the Devil = the Great Dragon = that old Serpent = Belial = Beelzebub. There is only one king of demons and evil angels.
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Greetings Blik,
Just fyi, Satan was called Lucifer before his rebellion. Lucifer is just another moniker of Satan before his fall. Lucifer means “morning star,” “son of the dawn,” “Day Star / Daystar,” or “shining star. To be clear, both the names Lucifer and Satan is referring to the same being, pre and post fall.
Also, the word "devils" is just another description of a fallen angel, also called an unclean spirit and demon. They're just different names referring to the same beings.
The cherubim (Ker-oob) are four angels mentioned in Ezekiel, Isaiah and Revelation. Ezekiel describes them as having four faces each with 4 to 6 wings and eyes covering their entire bodies, including their whirling wheels. There is no scripture that says that they are the middle order of angels, nor their level of rank." Also, the Greek word "aggelos" is interpreted as "messenger" for all angels, not just a certain sect.
Where did you find a list of their different orders of rank?
I believe that Ethiopic Enoch is the word of God. Jude did as well, for he quoted Enoch 14. The information beginning in chapter 7 of Enoch sheds much light in regards to those 200 angels who took wives from the progeny of men and begetting children, also found in Gen.6:1. It also demonstrates that they were the reason for the flood, because of their defilement with women and their corruption of mankind.
Just fyi, Satan was called Lucifer before his rebellion. Lucifer is just another moniker of Satan before his fall. Lucifer means “morning star,” “son of the dawn,” “Day Star / Daystar,” or “shining star. To be clear, both the names Lucifer and Satan is referring to the same being, pre and post fall.
Also, the word "devils" is just another description of a fallen angel, also called an unclean spirit and demon. They're just different names referring to the same beings.
The cherubim (Ker-oob) are four angels mentioned in Ezekiel, Isaiah and Revelation. Ezekiel describes them as having four faces each with 4 to 6 wings and eyes covering their entire bodies, including their whirling wheels. There is no scripture that says that they are the middle order of angels, nor their level of rank." Also, the Greek word "aggelos" is interpreted as "messenger" for all angels, not just a certain sect.
Where did you find a list of their different orders of rank?
I believe that Ethiopic Enoch is the word of God. Jude did as well, for he quoted Enoch 14. The information beginning in chapter 7 of Enoch sheds much light in regards to those 200 angels who took wives from the progeny of men and begetting children, also found in Gen.6:1. It also demonstrates that they were the reason for the flood, because of their defilement with women and their corruption of mankind.
Ethiopic Enoch was inspired by God and was in fact apart of the Bible up to the third century. Jude also recognized Enoch as scripture, quoting him in Jude 14:
"Enoch, the seventh from Adam, also prophesied about them: “Behold, the Lord is coming with myriads of His saints to execute judgment on everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of every ungodly act of wickedness and every harsh word spoken against Him by ungodly sinners.”
"Enoch, the seventh from Adam, also prophesied about them: “Behold, the Lord is coming with myriads of His saints to execute judgment on everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of every ungodly act of wickedness and every harsh word spoken against Him by ungodly sinners.”
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Do you believe the Bible is the inspired 100% infallible Word of God?
Because it couldn't be if books are lefts out. The Spirit would be no longer in it and sustaining it. How could you trust the current Bible? What else has been taken or what else is missing?
I believe God is powerful enough to sustain His Word and protect His message.
Because it couldn't be if books are lefts out. The Spirit would be no longer in it and sustaining it. How could you trust the current Bible? What else has been taken or what else is missing?
I believe God is powerful enough to sustain His Word and protect His message.
Hi Thanks ,
I would offer. Messengers that bring the word of God might be used differently, greater or lesser .Depending on how we view greater or lesser. . .
Like the message to David was take some stones and a sling and the Holy Spirit within will guide the path and swat the Goliath fly.
Or the word of God to Moses . .Raise your arms with the staff and I will dry up the sand and divide the Sea used to represent judgement so it can be traveled on by nearly 2,000,000 . And close it up to those who are walking in darkness and the break of daylight . You could say he came as a thief in the night to the pagan unbelievers.
One thing I have been thinking when looking at greater and lesser is to remember at times the last comes first and first last .We should be carful how we hear in that way. lol Wife says ladies first. .Husband say . . Yes sweetie.
A pattern seen in the first born used to represent our second birth First last, last first.
If Jesus says to marvel not at the idea we must be born again .How could the power be greater that those words? His tongue has the power of life and death .He gives his children the fruit of new life a love for hearing. Miracles are simply miracles. They are all around us. His word make them greater or lesser in our eyes .
Proverbs 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
One more example. The power of the word as that in which it preforms. Let there be and it became sight . That power strengthened the Son of God ,Jesus who represents our second birth. Messenger as wings of the wind. .the hearing of our new faith. Angels have no messages of their own . the are ministering spirits the voice of God.
Luke seems to be a good place to look at the word angel to help gain some understanding as to what he was strengthened with .
Luke 22:42-44 King James Version (KJV)Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground
As messengers of the gospel we have it in us but never of the messengers beautiful feed shod with the gospel, not lips or mind.
Ephesians 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
I would offer. Messengers that bring the word of God might be used differently, greater or lesser .Depending on how we view greater or lesser. . .
Like the message to David was take some stones and a sling and the Holy Spirit within will guide the path and swat the Goliath fly.
Or the word of God to Moses . .Raise your arms with the staff and I will dry up the sand and divide the Sea used to represent judgement so it can be traveled on by nearly 2,000,000 . And close it up to those who are walking in darkness and the break of daylight . You could say he came as a thief in the night to the pagan unbelievers.
One thing I have been thinking when looking at greater and lesser is to remember at times the last comes first and first last .We should be carful how we hear in that way. lol Wife says ladies first. .Husband say . . Yes sweetie.
A pattern seen in the first born used to represent our second birth First last, last first.
If Jesus says to marvel not at the idea we must be born again .How could the power be greater that those words? His tongue has the power of life and death .He gives his children the fruit of new life a love for hearing. Miracles are simply miracles. They are all around us. His word make them greater or lesser in our eyes .
Proverbs 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
One more example. The power of the word as that in which it preforms. Let there be and it became sight . That power strengthened the Son of God ,Jesus who represents our second birth. Messenger as wings of the wind. .the hearing of our new faith. Angels have no messages of their own . the are ministering spirits the voice of God.
Luke seems to be a good place to look at the word angel to help gain some understanding as to what he was strengthened with .
Luke 22:42-44 King James Version (KJV)Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground
As messengers of the gospel we have it in us but never of the messengers beautiful feed shod with the gospel, not lips or mind.
Ephesians 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
The Bible. Called the book of the law. The book of life. The book of prophecy as it is written is also called. . the book of wars. It records the wars as the witness of God. The witness of man has many ideas.
Numbers 21:13From thence they removed, and pitched on the other side of Arnon, which is in the wilderness that cometh out of the coasts of the Amorites: for Arnon is the border of Moab, between Moab and the Amorites.Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the Lord, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon,
No secret books apocrypha.
Numbers 21:13From thence they removed, and pitched on the other side of Arnon, which is in the wilderness that cometh out of the coasts of the Amorites: for Arnon is the border of Moab, between Moab and the Amorites.Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the Lord, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon,
No secret books apocrypha.
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