I didn't say sin. Is there any example in scripture of an evil angel exercising supernatural powers without God's permission? Satan had God's permission to affect the weather in Job. It can't be assumed they have supernatural powers without God's permission. We need evidence. If there is no evidence then it's just guessing that they do have those powers
Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?
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The Complete Book of Enoch: Standard English Version
The Complete Book of Enoch: Standard English Version
No .I don’t believe there were four hundred fifty foot giants eating everything either. I think when people read this they assume “the sons of God are angels “
“And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.”
Genesis 6:1-2 KJV
I believe the sons of God is this line in genesis five
“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
Luke 3:38 KJV
And the daughters they married were the daughters of cain
“And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.”
Genesis 4:16-17
We know the angels aren’t the sons of God in the nt
“( the son of God ) being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.”
Hebrews 1:4-6
“And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire. But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
Hebrews 1:7, 13-14 KJV
The sons of God are the hiers his children not his spiritual ministering spirits . It’s always been mankind’s place to be the sons of God
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”
Genesis 1:27-28 KJV
“But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:”
John 1:12
“And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.”
Genesis 4:26 KJV
only my opinion however doesn’t mean anyone’s wrong or anything but no I don’t think giants is literal but rather rhetorical ot says they were men of great. Renown
“And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.”
Genesis 6:1-2 KJV
I believe the sons of God is this line in genesis five
“which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
Luke 3:38 KJV
And the daughters they married were the daughters of cain
“And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.”
Genesis 4:16-17
We know the angels aren’t the sons of God in the nt
“( the son of God ) being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.”
Hebrews 1:4-6
“And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire. But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
Hebrews 1:7, 13-14 KJV
The sons of God are the hiers his children not his spiritual ministering spirits . It’s always been mankind’s place to be the sons of God
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”
Genesis 1:27-28 KJV
“But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:”
John 1:12
“And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.”
Genesis 4:26 KJV
only my opinion however doesn’t mean anyone’s wrong or anything but no I don’t think giants is literal but rather rhetorical ot says they were men of great. Renown
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well then why do you believe God has not destroyed the entire world again for Christians marrying non Christians, or Jews marrying non Jews, and that Christians/believers or even true Israel are a physically hereditary group?
because that has continued to happen
Every
Day
Of
Every
Year
For thousands of years
... But only once has sin been so great, that God wiped out all living souls on earth, save 8
Sorry mate, i respect you a lot but your view here holds zero water.
because that has continued to happen
Every
Day
Of
Every
Year
For thousands of years
... But only once has sin been so great, that God wiped out all living souls on earth, save 8
Sorry mate, i respect you a lot but your view here holds zero water.
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Which by the way, the Bible actually condones
Please consider
1 Corinthians 7:13-14
And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.
... which we should expect completely the opposite, for a marriage between a believer and unbeliever to be adamantly damned 20 times over, if @Pilgrimshope yoir view on Genesis 6 was correct, if the entire world would be at risk of irrevocable destruction because of such a union between any two human beings.Please consider
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that has no bearing on whether a Moabite or Canaanite marrying an Israelite is worth destroying all living souls on earth, including sinless animals.
this situation is part of the line of Christ: don't forget Ruth and Rahab.
if that view of Genesis 6 is correct, Christ is a damnable bastard and the world should be destroyed because of His genealogy.
this situation is part of the line of Christ: don't forget Ruth and Rahab.
if that view of Genesis 6 is correct, Christ is a damnable bastard and the world should be destroyed because of His genealogy.
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"race" as understood in our culture is a relatively modern excuse for snobbery and prejudgement. before the Renaissance era, people thought of others alien to them in terms of nationhood, not skin color or genetic inheritance.
but what do you think Cain-ites and Seth-ites are, in terms of of the nationally/racially mixed view of Genesis 6?
equal partners? No: it's racism.
there are only 3 views on this, all of them a condemnation of some type of marriage:
but what do you think Cain-ites and Seth-ites are, in terms of of the nationally/racially mixed view of Genesis 6?
equal partners? No: it's racism.
there are only 3 views on this, all of them a condemnation of some type of marriage:
- Racially mixed Cainite/Sethite
- Religiously mixed
- Angelic/human mixed