Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?
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Yes and no. David had the faith to prophesy that Christ would be a priest after the order of Melchizedek, something that was not in scripture, but Melchizedek the priest was mentioned in scripture. So David was not going beyond scripture when he wrote his vision and applied it to Christ. Everything pertaining to God must have its anchor in scripture. If not it's the domain of error. He does nothing that hasn't been revealed to his servants the prophets through scripture
For the lord YHWH will do nothing unless He reveals his secret to his servants the prophets. Amos 3:7
you don’t understand that what God says in a covenant he makes with man has to do with anything ?
For instance you don’t see the relevance of this form israel the people God made this covenant with ?
“These are the words of the covenant, which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb.”
Deuteronomy 29:1 KJV
you don’t see the relevance of what God says when he makes a covenant ?mwith people ? Such as he did there with israel through Moses ?
“I am not sure what any laws have to do with it... marriage related or otherwise. “
Or what Jesus words have to do with the new covenant he sent to all people ? That will be fulfilled at the end of the age like you are saying really ?
sister if God gives man a covenant law that becomes the law for mankind . What he told Israel about marriage to foreigners of other nations , by Moses words isnt the same thing Jesus said to Christian’s by Jesus words in the gospel is the point .
In The old covenant God was seperating israel from all other peoples like Seth’s line was separate from cains .
If my point is Jesus didn’t say anything to his people and followers tbose who believed in him , about not marrying someone from a other nation
so therefore , why would he destroy the world because a Christian married a foreigner ? But under the old covenant he warned them “ do not marry foreign wives from other nations because they will lead you into idolatry and I’ll destroy you all later because of it “
And so one of not the o my reason but one of the reasons Israel’s covenant was broken is because they married wives which God had forbidden then to marry …….
again though we are Christian’s not under Moses law saying “ do not marry foreign wives “
we’re in the new covenant word which includes all nations of people and all ma gauges of people and both genders of people both male and female , and all nationalities of people ect the nt doesn’t ever say to a Jew “ don’t marry a gentile “ that’s the old covenant
I …..think you understand my point sis but maybe we’re again going to go in a circle not really interested in that so I’ll leave it there . I think what I’m saying makes sense ….
For instance you don’t see the relevance of this form israel the people God made this covenant with ?
“These are the words of the covenant, which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb.”
Deuteronomy 29:1 KJV
you don’t see the relevance of what God says when he makes a covenant ?mwith people ? Such as he did there with israel through Moses ?
“I am not sure what any laws have to do with it... marriage related or otherwise. “
Or what Jesus words have to do with the new covenant he sent to all people ? That will be fulfilled at the end of the age like you are saying really ?
sister if God gives man a covenant law that becomes the law for mankind . What he told Israel about marriage to foreigners of other nations , by Moses words isnt the same thing Jesus said to Christian’s by Jesus words in the gospel is the point .
In The old covenant God was seperating israel from all other peoples like Seth’s line was separate from cains .
If my point is Jesus didn’t say anything to his people and followers tbose who believed in him , about not marrying someone from a other nation
so therefore , why would he destroy the world because a Christian married a foreigner ? But under the old covenant he warned them “ do not marry foreign wives from other nations because they will lead you into idolatry and I’ll destroy you all later because of it “
And so one of not the o my reason but one of the reasons Israel’s covenant was broken is because they married wives which God had forbidden then to marry …….
again though we are Christian’s not under Moses law saying “ do not marry foreign wives “
we’re in the new covenant word which includes all nations of people and all ma gauges of people and both genders of people both male and female , and all nationalities of people ect the nt doesn’t ever say to a Jew “ don’t marry a gentile “ that’s the old covenant
I …..think you understand my point sis but maybe we’re again going to go in a circle not really interested in that so I’ll leave it there . I think what I’m saying makes sense ….
Once again you have subtly changed what I said, which is an underhanded tactic I would have thought beneath you, yet you persist in it. I did not say I did not understand that what God says in a covenant He makes with man has to do with anything. My comment rather specified that I was referring to post's question, the answer I gave, and your completely unrelated rejoinder, which had ZERO to do with either.
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It would be helpful if you respond to what I actually say instead of making something else up
and pretending that is what I said instead. If not responding makes you feel better, go for it.
And yeah, there it is again: EVERY TIME??? No, but it sure has been a recently recurring problem.
Psalm 55:12-14~ It is not an enemy who insults me...
and pretending that is what I said instead. If not responding makes you feel better, go for it.
And yeah, there it is again: EVERY TIME??? No, but it sure has been a recently recurring problem.
Psalm 55:12-14~ It is not an enemy who insults me...
Another thing adam did was let the whole concept of sin into the world causing the fulfillment of Gods commandment “ thou shalt not or thou shalt surely die “
“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world,
and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
Romans 5:12
notice adam wasn’t created dead ? Cain wasnt created dead or exiled or I able to hear Gods word bit God speaks to him and calls him to repentance then he rejects that and kills his brother.
“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world,
and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
Romans 5:12
notice adam wasn’t created dead ? Cain wasnt created dead or exiled or I able to hear Gods word bit God speaks to him and calls him to repentance then he rejects that and kills his brother.
It would be helpful if you respond to what I actually say instead of making something else up
and pretending that is what I said instead. If not responding makes you feel better, go for it.
And yeah, there it is again: EVERY TIME??? No, but it sure has been a recently recurring problem.
Psalm 55:12-14~ It is not an enemy who insults me...
and pretending that is what I said instead. If not responding makes you feel better, go for it.
And yeah, there it is again: EVERY TIME??? No, but it sure has been a recently recurring problem.
Psalm 55:12-14~ It is not an enemy who insults me...
I’m honestly not here to argue with anyone especially you sister . And I’ve never misrepresented anything you’ve said intentionally but maybe I just don’t understand it or something.
Im nOt going to argue with people here though because o don’t have the same opinion about the Bible . The truth is no matter what some of us might think we know all we actually have is our own thoughts and opinions .
of we can’t have different tbiughrs about complex or nuanced matters in the Bible without being offended and feeling like someone’s lying about us or misrepresenting we just simply shouldnt discuss those things . It’s an irrelevant circle that just is one big immature argument showing us that we all still have a lot of work to do growing up in him.
This place seems to have a bad spirit some times I used to like it alot feel positive meet nice people laugh joke ……lately it’s just like spinning tbose ole bald tires in tbe mudd .
and everyone argues to be right about something , half the time we don’t even understand or make an effort to hear what it is the other person is saying or trying to say ….one of my favorite thing here has been meeting you through sis youe a blessing sister
“You got everything without it's context..... Then, you proclaim what you want it to mean. “
heres the chapter it still says all the same things and makes all the same clear points without me saying anything …..
“hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: A sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; And the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but thou remainest: And they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, And they shall be changed: But thou art the same, And thy years shall not fail. But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
Hebrews 1:2-14 KJV
chapter two also says the same things makes the same points …..but alright I guess maybe Hebrews has it wrong because you think otherwise
heres the chapter it still says all the same things and makes all the same clear points without me saying anything …..
“hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: A sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee With the oil of gladness above thy fellows. And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; And the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but thou remainest: And they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, And they shall be changed: But thou art the same, And thy years shall not fail. But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?”
Hebrews 1:2-14 KJV
chapter two also says the same things makes the same points …..but alright I guess maybe Hebrews has it wrong because you think otherwise
that’s your personal interpretation ? Of how the ancients receives that phrase ?
Or is there some biblical context or scripture to say that ?
By the way can you answer these two rhetorical question ?
“For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee?
And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?”
Hebrews 1:5 KJV
Or is there some biblical context or scripture to say that ?
By the way can you answer these two rhetorical question ?
“For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee?
And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son?”
Hebrews 1:5 KJV
Ahh so verses saying angels are ministering spirits sent to minister to the hiers and that children are flesh and blood and Christ became a man and not a angel to redeem the sons unto God that’s proof that angels are the sons of God to you ?
i guess everyone will interpret things tbier own way in the new age twilight zone
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There it goes again...
How many "firstborns" can the God have?
Literally? Only one.
So, Israel can not be His firstborn, and then Jesus be.
Again... The term "firstborn" held a meaning in the ancient culture that does not mean as how you been trying to use it to mean.
It meant to be the heir and (in second command) - head over a household.
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How many "firstborns" can the God have?
Literally? Only one.
So, Israel can not be His firstborn, and then Jesus be.
Again... The term "firstborn" held a meaning in the ancient culture that does not mean as how you been trying to use it to mean.
It meant to be the heir and (in second command) - head over a household.
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