Are Many Spirit Filled, ie Spreak in Tongues on this site ??

[fredjames]

! Theee what I mean?! It'th jutht gotten too therioth and divithive.

In the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST did anyone rent or allowed a 'clown' in GOD's house?

Please get rid of 'it' in distraction, to laborers of the MASTER's house, who are treading the grapes into wine.

 

[TMS]

being "SPIRIT FILLED"... but can we be filled with the Demonic spirits and feel like it is from God?

 

[sydlit]

being "SPIRIT FILLED"... but can we be filled with the Demonic spirits and feel like it is from God?

Wow, down under, is that guy For REAL? Hope you're not buying into it. Feel like saying, in a very low, slow voice...Thou shalt not, Thou shalt not, Thou shalt not...

 

[fredjames]

'Witnessing lambs and sheep who listens to only the Good Shepherd's voice and HE knows them and they follow HIM', listen and pay attention to what is written, 'as it is written' and what is going on here, in order to distinguish between the 'spirit of error' and the 'spirit of truth' and it is also written, "Everything that is hidden will be exposed."

Exposed people either become 'slick' with Holy Scripture or 'hostile' upon being 'convicted' by the 'Sword of the SPIRIT'.

Clearly Apostle Paul, an instrument of CHRIST spoke about women not to 'interfere', what is given to 'brothers' to judge and handle as 'truth justification' to all men and women of faith in the word/teaching of GOD and also a command of the LORD. And also anyone who do not recognize this, he is not recognized.

Woman are allowed to pray and prophesy and we as 'brothers' and are gifted ones, who must judge according to the HOLY BIBLE between truth and false 'witnessing'.

Please read the teaching of Apostle Paul from 1 Corinthians chapter 12, regarding the gifts and their use and how should be used in order and love for others and who should take authority over all this matters and who should be in silent and speak in their heart without interpretation and who should be silent and learn from men and his finishing justification words regarding all this orderly matters in chapter 14, from verse 34-40.

GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST keep you from being tempted and protect you from 'imposters' and 'counterfeits' who 'twist' the written Holy Scripture taking them 'out of context' and are pleasing 'itching ears' in order to have control over them. But these will be 'exposed' by the man of GOD for the sake of the innocent lambs and sheep of GOD, by CHRIST and for CHRIST, for them in faith to distinguish between the 'spirit of error' and the 'spirit of truth' within the church.

Thank you and GOD bless you all in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

 

[fredjames]

being "SPIRIT FILLED"... but can we be filled with the Demonic spirits and feel like it is from God?

Yes my friend, like the possible one who 'commented' on your 'post' in 'perplex'?

Such is not here to be 'built up' nor 'built up' others in AGAPE and through AGAPE word/teaching of the New Covenant/Testament/Agreement, but to 'ridicule', 'make fun' and 'put down' others, even those who are innocent, with innocent questions, like a 'messed up clown'.

As it is written;

"It is not surprising that even satan disguises himself as an angel of light and even his servants disguises themselves as servants of righteousness."

Also remember in the 'epistles' of the Apostles always cautioning the Churches about the 'Jews who have sneaked in' and the 'imposters' and 'counterfeits' who comes to the church and even with 'authorized letters', there are those who were with the Apostles but have gone ahead of them and they 'impart' a different jesus and a different 'spirit' for the church to 'accept'.

Even the book of Revelation in the letters to the churches, LORD JESUS CHRIST Himself 'testifies' the 'spirit jezebel' and the 'spirit of balaam' in HIS church/body of CHRIST.

Beware of them and learn by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT the HOLY BIBLE and the Church and you are able to 'distinguish between the 'spirit of error' and the 'spirit of truth', as said by Apostle John in his epistle to the Church, in order for them to be 'wise as serpant and innocent as a dove', even when they have gone until today.

GOD bless all and you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

 

[sydlit]

Yes my friend, like the possible one who 'commented' on your 'post' in 'perplex'?

Such is not here to be 'built up' nor 'built up' others in AGAPE and through AGAPE word/teaching of the New Covenant/Testament/Agreement, but to 'ridicule', 'make fun' and 'put down' others, even those who are innocent, with innocent questions, like a 'messed up clown'.

As it is written;

"It is not surprising that even satan disguises himself as an angel of light and even his servants disguises themselves as servants of righteousness."

Also remember in the 'epistles' of the Apostles always cautioning the Churches about the 'Jews who have sneaked in' and the 'imposters' and 'counterfeits' who comes to the church and even with 'authorized letters', there are those who were with the Apostles but have gone ahead of them and they 'impart' a different jesus and a different 'spirit' for the church to 'accept'.

Even the book of Revelation in the letters to the churches, LORD JESUS CHRIST Himself 'testifies' the 'spirit jezebel' and the 'spirit of balaam' in HIS church/body of CHRIST.

Beware of them and learn by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT the HOLY BIBLE and the Church and you are able to 'distinguish between the 'spirit of error' and the 'spirit of truth', as said by Apostle John in his epistle to the Church, in order for them to be 'wise as serpant and innocent as a dove', even when they have gone until today.

GOD bless all and you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

ok so I was only clowning around, and maybe I'm not as mature in the faith as you guys, or as I ought to be, but I certainly meant no harm, I was just trying to lighten things up, sorry if I was out of line, but to turn that into me being or having some kind of demon is pretty heavy. I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as my God and Saviour, I'm trusting Him alone for my salvation, and I only recently joined this chat to see if I could maybe make some friends or even meet that special one if it be God's will, since I don't have much of that in my life, and yeah, I still make mistakes. If you really believe what you said, instead of name-calling and shunning, how about helping a guy out? Maybe I don't know what else to do. I'm sitting here listening to a teaching on Jude and it's pretty scary stuff, and all I know is I've asked Jesus to save me, what else CAN I do?! I'm just trying to breathe a little easier in the midst of a very constricting world, and I apologize for a poor attempt at humor in the midst of your posts.

 

[convallaria]

If we 'brothers' listen to women like you, we take part in your 'lawlessness' practice, against GOD's every word that proceeded from HIS mouth through CHRIST of the New Covenant/Testament/Agreement, which in 'prophesy' yous have been 'convicted' by the 'Sword of the SPIRIT' in order to repent.

You shamelessly continue in your 'vain repetition' and even 'slick' to quote more Holy Scripture in distraction and 'boldly' tell men what to do and this the fruit of your 'denomination/tradition and doctrine of men' you represent?

"In the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, you have no authority over 'truth justification matters' of the Holy Scripture that which are given to 'brothers' and also over men!"

queen jezebel a women tells her king man what to do and 'executed' his duties herself to what she thinks is rightful, even to murder.

Aren't we witnessing quite a 'resemblance' in the church, even their fruit here?

As it is written;

"You will know them by their fruit."

"Your worst enemy will be in your own household."

"Many are called but only a few are chosen."

Again i tell you as friend, 'repent' while you can and while there is still time, before soon the 'strong delusion' GOD will send to those who have not welcomed the Gospel of the New Covenant/Testament/Agreement, their preaching and teaching i faith. Therefore instead of believing in the truth while you can in obedience and submission, rather coming soon be 'deluded' to believe in a lie that will be performed by satan and his beasts. And this GOD will everyone to go through this, even believers to 'test' faithfulness, as how in the past HE 'tested' HIS faithful people.

Come clean Fred
Tell us what cult you belong to, if you dare.

 

[fredjames]

Come clean Fred
Tell us what cult you belong to, if you dare.

Please understand definitely not your 'cult' in 'lawlessness' witnessing as false women witnesses, who want to take authority and teach men, and not in obedience and submission 'practicing' and 'abiding' and 'bear much fruit' and 'their fruit must abide', according to the written 'context' and understanding by the help of the HOLY SPIRIT, who 'inspired' the HOLY BIBLE, profitable to a man of GOD, especially the New Covenant/Testament/Agreement for all 'redeemed' and 'sanctified' believers who testify as gifted Christians, who worship GOD the FATHER in 'spirit' and 'truth'.

May GOD the FATHER, forgive you and bless you, as 'babes in CHRIST' still in 'milk', in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

 

[fredjames]

ok so I was only clowning around, and maybe I'm not as mature in the faith as you guys, or as I ought to be, but I certainly meant no harm, I was just trying to lighten things up, sorry if I was out of line, but to turn that into me being or having some kind of demon is pretty heavy. I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as my God and Saviour, I'm trusting Him alone for my salvation, and I only recently joined this chat to see if I could maybe make some friends or even meet that special one if it be God's will, since I don't have much of that in my life, and yeah, I still make mistakes. If you really believe what you said, instead of name-calling and shunning, how about helping a guy out? Maybe I don't know what else to do. I'm sitting here listening to a teaching on Jude and it's pretty scary stuff, and all I know is I've asked Jesus to save me, what else CAN I do?! I'm just trying to breathe a little easier in the midst of a very constricting world, and I apologize for a poor attempt at humor in the midst of your posts.

Thank you 'brethren' and you are 'great' in humbleness', and you have 'repented' to GOD and 'honored' only CHRIST of the 'Living' and 'not me' and i as an unworthy servant of CHRIST, i am sorry to be hard on you, but i meant 'spiritually well' due to 'deception' of given 'sound doctrine', am 'gifted' in service for you and others to be 'built up' in 'spiritual growth' from being 'nearsighted', and according to 'context witnessing', according to the every word/teaching that proceeded out of the mouth of GOD, through CHRIST who brought us 'Grace and Truth of the New Covenant/Testament/Agreement', given and made to we 'all', as the Church/Body of CHRIST, who have been 'called' into, in order to 'listen and pay attention' and 'not deviate' according to 'carnal/flesh/self's passions and desires' deception against GOD of our Salvation, by CHRIST and for CHRIST.

GOD bless you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST for 'spiritual discernment' to 'Spiritual word/teaching' of the HOLY BIBLE, in 'sound doctrine understanding' by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT who inspired them and placed as our 'Helper/Comforter'.

 

[convallaria]

Please understand definitely not your 'cult' in 'lawlessness' witnessing as false women witnesses, who want to take authority and teach men, and not in obedience and submission 'practicing' and 'abiding' and 'bear much fruit' and 'their fruit must abide', according to the written 'context' and understanding by the help of the HOLY SPIRIT, who 'inspired' the HOLY BIBLE, profitable to a man of GOD, especially the New Covenant/Testament/Agreement for all 'redeemed' and 'sanctified' believers who testify as gifted Christians, who worship GOD the FATHER in 'spirit' and 'truth'.

May GOD the FATHER, forgive you and bless you, as 'babes in CHRIST' still in 'milk', in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Do you usually treat the women who are your senior both naturally and spiritually in such a disrespectful way?

1 Tim 5: 1) Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; the younger men as brethren;
2) The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.


This is a chat and discussion forum and I am entitled to express my views. Yet I have not come here to simply do that, but to encourage others to reach forward towards their potential as children of God. As a woman who has been saved for 28 years, born again and baptized in the Holy Spirit, I find your constant slights, false accusations and insults extremely ungodly. But now I have seen that you are exactly half my age in the Lord, and fourteen years my junior in the natural sense, it explains to some extent why you haven’t learned basic skills of how to move and speak respectfully in the body of Christ. Having said that, fourteen years is long enough to learn a few things so we can hope that you will do so before long.
Your contentions seemed to come from a fury that as a woman I might have something to say, rather than from taking issue with what I actually said. If anyone reads my posts they can see that fairly plainly, up to the point where I quite rightly called you on your bad attitude.
You keep accusing me of lawlessness for daring to write what the Lord is showing me, and yet your attitude is one of total lawlessness in its lack of common respect. I am speaking of course of the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which has made me free from the law of sin and death (Romans 8:2), and your treatment of me makes me ask, are you similarly free from the law of sin and death? It doesn’t seem like it.
You seem to be terrified that I might be trying to teach you something. Well, if you are stubbornly refusing to learn something, your own pride will stop you from hearing ANY good advice. We know that God RESISTS the proud, but gives grace to the humble…and that on occasions He had to send special messengers to the proud to dislodge them from their fault, when they had strayed from His will in blind selfish pursuit…see what Nathan said to David when he had become a murderous adulterer with Bathsheba, and was too proud to see his error.


Hopefully you will humble yourself before God says to you similarly “thou are the man”.


If I can help you with your written text, your ‘speech marks’ are ‘irritating’ and ‘wholly’ ‘unnecessary’. As an English person and a writer of some years, I am authorized to say that, because I know. It is not bad advice because I am a woman, and I am not out of the will of God to attempt to help you. I just know, because English is my first language, and writing is one of my ministries. I hope you get my point.




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[Socreta93]

Speaking in tongues is no proof in salvation.

"But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue" 1 Corinthians 14:19

 

[blondieindahouse]

A few people doing mad things shouldn't have the power to make you believe God has changed His mind about tongues. If you use church like Walmart, going there on Sundays to pay a "tithe" and expect to get a blessing for it, you are going to be constantly disappointed because God will not honour such an insult upon Who He is and what He has promised.

Your relationship with the Lord must come first. You need to be born again: come personally to the Lord Jesus, being willing to turn from everything you know to be wrong in your life, especially your unbelief, trust Him for forgiveness of your own personal sins, that His death on the cross was for you personally, and ask Him to come into your heart and your life and to change you.

If you do that sincerely and humbly, He will see what you do in secret and reward you openly....with all good things (including tongues) that accompany salvation.

Are you saying that if a person doesnt speak in tongues they are not saved?

 

[ember]

Speaking in tongues is no proof in salvation.

"But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue" 1 Corinthians 14:19

well since you only have 6 posts under your belt, I'll clue you in regarding the above

The Bible says no such thing and most folks here do not say it either

Apparently, some holiness Pentecostal folk (of which, thankfully, I know not very much) say that...but I think quite a few of that denom also adhere to keeping parts of the law which the Bible says will keep you bound by the law...not a good idea

 

[ember]

Are you saying that if a person doesnt speak in tongues they are not saved?

Nope. I just read her post and she did not say that.

 

[fredjames]

Do you usually treat the women who are your senior both naturally and spiritually in such a disrespectful way?

1 Tim 5: 1) Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; the younger men as brethren;
2) The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.


This is a chat and discussion forum and I am entitled to express my views. Yet I have not come here to simply do that, but to encourage others to reach forward towards their potential as children of God. As a woman who has been saved for 28 years, born again and baptized in the Holy Spirit, I find your constant slights, false accusations and insults extremely ungodly. But now I have seen that you are exactly half my age in the Lord, and fourteen years my junior in the natural sense, it explains to some extent why you haven’t learned basic skills of how to move and speak respectfully in the body of Christ. Having said that, fourteen years is long enough to learn a few things so we can hope that you will do so before long.
Your contentions seemed to come from a fury that as a woman I might have something to say, rather than from taking issue with what I actually said. If anyone reads my posts they can see that fairly plainly, up to the point where I quite rightly called you on your bad attitude.
You keep accusing me of lawlessness for daring to write what the Lord is showing me, and yet your attitude is one of total lawlessness in its lack of common respect. I am speaking of course of the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which has made me free from the law of sin and death (Romans 8:2), and your treatment of me makes me ask, are you similarly free from the law of sin and death? It doesn’t seem like it.
You seem to be terrified that I might be trying to teach you something. Well, if you are stubbornly refusing to learn something, your own pride will stop you from hearing ANY good advice. We know that God RESISTS the proud, but gives grace to the humble…and that on occasions He had to send special messengers to the proud to dislodge them from their fault, when they had strayed from His will in blind selfish pursuit…see what Nathan said to David when he had become a murderous adulterer with Bathsheba, and was too proud to see his error.


Hopefully you will humble yourself before God says to you similarly “thou are the man”.


If I can help you with your written text, your ‘speech marks’ are ‘irritating’ and ‘wholly’ ‘unnecessary’. As an English person and a writer of some years, I am authorized to say that, because I know. It is not bad advice because I am a woman, and I am not out of the will of God to attempt to help you. I just know, because English is my first language, and writing is one of my ministries. I hope you get my point.




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As it is written;

"Who is My mother, brother and sister? They are those who 'obey' GOD and do HIS will."

Therefore also JESUS said, "You will know them by their fruit."

Please do not 'quote' Holy Scripture to hide behind your 'lawlessness'.

In the first place you women who are continuing in 'vain babble' of 'self-righteousness', not even shameful to continue 'falsely debate' with a 'man of GOD', when through him, GOD's word calls you 'kinds' to remain 'silent' and 'learn'.

As an 'elder' and you seek respect, are you first of all setting a good example for other women by your attitude that have not learned over the years with GOD's word/teaching and in faith to remain 'silent' and 'learn', and moreover you are not allowed to 'teach' men and 'practice' authority over men. As 'witnesses' of GOD's written Covenant/Testament/Agreement made and given to all of us in faith, men and women, there are 'positions' and 'placings' order given given by GOD for both to 'stand' in witnessing to others. You and your supporters have been 'exposed' by the word/teaching of GOD of 'lawless' practice and boldly continuing with men and are a 'bad' example for young and innocent growing Christian women in the faith. This is how you as a Christian elder and your supporting women 'treat' and have been 'treating' all the 'men' and 'men of faith' in your life.

In the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST spirit of jezebel i command you to release these weak women and go back to where you came from!

Repent you 'hypocrites' and 'brood of vipers' who have been 'exposed' again and again of 'lawlessness' against GOD's word/teaching and fellow practicing and abiding to GOD's word/teaching men and women and fellow unbelievers in 'witnessing', supposedly the 'light' and 'salt' for this earth.

In the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST your sins have been forgiven, therefore sin no more or something worse shall happen to you.

Before Apostle Paul was leaving, he advice young Timothy who was going to continue after him to 'be aware' of 'itching ears' and 'bullies' in the Church.

As it is written;

"Do not put to test the LORD thy GOD."

HE is indeed the 'AGAPE GOD' and HE is also the 'Consuming Fire'.

 

[convallaria]

Are you saying that if a person doesnt speak in tongues they are not saved?

Not at all!

What I am saying is that as Jesus said, we must be born again. Being born again we are entitled to receive all that God has for us, and there is much more besides tongues!

I know that I was born again as soon as I believed on and received the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour, and trusted Him to have paid the price for all my sin. Everything changed from that point. I was washed in the blood of the Lamb, the divine washing that washes us for eternity and makes us a new creation.

As with most people I knew relatively nothing about what Jesus had for me at that point. By and by as I read my Bible I discovered He wanted to be active in my life, and to equip me with His power. The Lord showed me I had already received His Spirit by being born again, and He showed me this miraculously by lighting up the word of God for me in an awesome personal way. This was His tender response towards me to let me know I am HIS, since I had begun to concern myself about certain dangers of my personal circumstances.

The baptism with the Holy Spirit was the next milestone, a couple of years after I had received Jesus. Again, a life-changing experience which catapulted me forward into ministry. Things could never be the same again.

Some people speak with tongues at that point, but I didn't: it came later on when Lord told me I had received it already and needed to gather some boldness and speak it out. This I did privately and a whole different world of spirituality and further ministry began to open up to me.

This relationship we have with the Lord is personal and powerful. We have to exercise faith to believe and faith to receive all He has for us. He cares for us so deeply and does not leave us orphans with no help.

In summing up then, we are saved when we are born again, and subsequently we begin to receive all good gifts as His children. Speaking in tongues cannot save us, but as a gift of God it is evidence of His Holy Spirit Who is the Comforter. So when we have this evidence we know in one important way that we are His. There are many other evidences: our God is GOOD.

 

[RickyZ]

1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

so you advise people to run from speaking to GOD..HIS WAY !!

No, I'm saying run from people who are babbling to themselves and not unto God. There is a difference and there are far too many of the latter and too few of the former.

I'm a big proponent of tongues, I believe they are our true native language. That's probably why I am so adamantly against their misuse.

 

[RickyZ]

Why doth the dithcuthion about thpeaking in tongueth alwayth theem to get tho therioth and conthroverthial? (Thorry, jutht being thilly)

You do a good Elmer Fudd! (Or was that Daffy Duck?)

 

[RickyZ]

I speak in two tongues..English and Spanish..a little anyways..does American Sign Language count? If so that's 3 tongues

Exactly! A tongue is just another language, a restoration of the one we lost at Babel.

 

[RickyZ]

! Theee what I mean?! It'th jutht gotten too therioth and divithive.

Yer dithpicable!