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Pilgrimshope

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Malachi 2 doesn’t change the revelation of the apostles God isnt trying to destroy us Satan is he’s been the enemy since Eden

We have an enemy in this world it’s the devil Peter wasn’t confused about it prophecy nor was Paul

“Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Gods trying to arm with his sword us and give us a shield and armor in order to overcome the enemy our adversary in this world

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Malachi or Daniel don’t change this the ot is mostly about Israel’s rejection and offended toward God. That’s why their Cory was destroyed.


James also shows us we can overcome our enemy who’s seeking to destroy and devour us

“Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”
‭‭James‬ ‭4:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God has cast Satan and his devils out of heaven and now they are here In The world as long as we get inhabit the earth

“Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:12‬ ‭

that’s why he’s trying to destroy us he lost his place in heaven and God has called Christians into heaven by the gospel it’s why he’s after those holding christs testimony

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” ( believers of the gospel )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we want to get through the world so we can take part of the kingdom

“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:10-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to get there we need to take the armor and sword provided for us in the world through Christ

The New Testament is revelation the old is prophecy the apostles were explaining things from the prophets
 
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Malachi 2 doesn’t change the revelation of the apostles God isnt trying to destroy us Satan is he’s been the enemy since Eden

We have an enemy in this world it’s the devil Peter wasn’t confused about it prophecy nor was Paul

“Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Gods trying to arm with his sword us and give us a shield and armor in order to overcome the enemy our adversary in this world

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Malachi or Daniel don’t change this the ot is mostly about Israel’s rejection and offended toward God. That’s why their Cory was destroyed.


James also shows us we can overcome our enemy who’s seeking to destroy and devour us

“Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”
‭‭James‬ ‭4:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God has cast Satan and his devils out of heaven and now they are here In The world as long as we get inhabit the earth

“Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:12‬ ‭

that’s why he’s trying to destroy us he lost his place in heaven and God has called Christians into heaven by the gospel it’s why he’s after those holding christs testimony

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” ( believers of the gospel )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we want to get through the world so we can take part of the kingdom

“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:10-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to get there we need to take the armor and sword provided for us in the world through Christ

The New Testament is revelation the old is prophecy the apostles were explaining things from the prophets
Romans 1:18-32
 

Blik

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I keep praying but I'll be honest - I get weary when I don't see God answer. I have had answers to prayer through my life but not that many. I've been praying throughout the day and fasted but still continue to get hit with nonstop attacks. I listened to a good sermon by Pastor Chuck Baldwin who said that we are going to face an intense and wearying (he used another term but can't recall it) battle. But it seems that God won't give us a break.

I know we're called to be soldiers but sometimes it seems to go beyond the pale.
God does not change his plan for us because we ask him to. We need to pray for his will to be done, if something is against his will it cannot be. God has a plan for the world. If most of the world does not accept God and his ways, then there is a sure result just as if you drop an object there is a sure result--gravity makes it fall. Our prayers cannot change gravity or God's plans for us.
 

Pilgrimshope

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yes I’m talking about Christians enemy ….. the devil who is warring against us cjrirtians Gods wrath is upon the sinfulness of mankind and those who reject Christ two different worlds brother

we Christians have an enemy the devil ….the wicked have made themselves an enemy in God

different peoples have different enemies
 

Pilgrimshope

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God does not change his plan for us because we ask him to. We need to pray for his will to be done, if something is against his will it cannot be. God has a plan for the world. If most of the world does not accept God and his ways, then there is a sure result just as if you drop an object there is a sure result--gravity makes it fall. Our prayers cannot change gravity or God's plans for us.
he does actually through intercession

“Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.

And Moses besought the Lord his God, and said, Lord, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand?

And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭32:10-11, 14‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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yes I’m talking about Christians enemy ….. the devil who is warring against us cjrirtians Gods wrath is upon the sinfulness of mankind and those who reject Christ two different worlds brother

we Christians have an enemy the devil ….the wicked have made themselves an enemy in God

different peoples have different enemies
God is judging the people, not Satan. Satan is a pathetic beast that doesn't really have much power besides the power to lie, hence resist him and he flees. God has all the power, hence if the people are being destroyed down, it is because of God. They should acknowledge that their ways are wrong, and God is the one judging them with a strong arm. If they don't do this and instead give glory to Satan and double down on their errors, then God will utterly destroy them. If they do this however and acknowledge their evil ways and acknowledge God has judged them and is just and turn from it, then God is merciful and will restore them. The Bible is full of examples of both cases where they harden their hearts and get crushed down by God and also examples where they sagely acknowledge God and seek his face and he shows mercy and restores.
 

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God is judging the people, not Satan. Satan is a pathetic beast that doesn't really have much power besides the power to lie, hence resist him and he flees. God has all the power, hence if the people are being destroyed down, it is because of God. They should acknowledge that their ways are wrong, and God is the one judging them with a strong arm. If they don't do this and instead give glory to Satan and double down on their errors, then God will utterly destroy them. If they do this however and acknowledge their evil ways and acknowledge God has judged them and is just and turn from it, then God is merciful and will restore them. The Bible is full of examples of both cases where they harden their hearts and get crushed down by God and also examples where they sagely acknowledge God and seek his face and he shows mercy and restores.
“God is judging the people, not Satan.”

yeah I’ve never said Satan is judging anyone. I said or rather shared some scripture with you showing you who is persecuting the church and who our ( Christians) adversary in this world is.

and why he’s here , why he’s full of wrath

there’s only one judge of mankind, and there’s only one Group or adversaries to the church the devil and his angels is all
I’m saying it all I shared with you from scripture Regarding those things

when you rail against Satan it isn’t a good idea you should try to remain on Christ instead even the archangel Michael knew better

“Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to think the devil has no power in this world is not accurate he’s actually a very powerful spiritual being that’s present in the world we’re safe in Christ but we should let Christ handle the enemy and not go beyond thkngs we understand like Michael showed restraint and deferred to the Lord who is greater than Satan.

But anyways I was only intending to share those few scriptures with you not argue or contend who the judge is of course that is Jesus
 
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“God is judging the people, not Satan.”

yeah I’ve never said Satan is judging anyone. I said or rather shared some scripture with you showing you who is persecuting the church and who our ( Christians) adversary in this world is.

and why he’s here , why he’s full of wrath

there’s only one judge of mankind, and there’s only one Group or adversaries to the church the devil and his angels is all
I’m saying it all I shared with you from scripture Regarding those things

when you rail against Satan it isn’t a good idea you should try to remain on Christ instead even the archangel Michael knew better

“Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to think the devil has no power in this world is not accurate he’s actually a very powerful spiritual being that’s present in the world we’re safe in Christ but we should let Christ handle the enemy and not go beyond thkngs we understand like Michael showed restraint and deferred to the Lord who is greater than Satan.

But anyways I was only intending to share those few scriptures with you not argue or contend who the judge is of course that is Jesus
No, Satan is not that powerful at all. As for the day when he'll be thrown down and full of wrath it is because on that day he will know his time is short. We will not fear the Devil, let him be full of fear and full of wrath because he is going to die, and there is no hope for him, and his fate is fixed, his destiny will not change. All he can really do of himself is lie, apart from this only whatever authority people give him by believing in his lies is what he has, hence just resist him and he has to flee.

It is not Satan that is doing these things to these people. Why give the most cursed beast any glory at all? It is God that is doing these things. for all power and glory and judgement belongs to God. Consider oh people, why God is displeased with you. It is because of your ways and the ways of your generations. This is why the Acknowledgements are crucial, because if you will acknowledge your generations' ways are all wrong and if you will acknowledge that powerful is the God that judges and curses your generations, then God is merciful, and he will show mercy, and he will restore just as easily as he can take away.

Understand what God says here in Hosea 5;

"I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him. I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early. "
 

Pilgrimshope

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No, Satan is not that powerful at all. As for the day when he'll be thrown down and full of wrath it is because on that day he will know his time is short. We will not fear the Devil, let him be full of fear and full of wrath because he is going to die, and there is no hope for him, and his fate is fixed, his destiny will not change. All he can really do of himself is lie, apart from this only whatever authority people give him by believing in his lies is what he has, hence just resist him and he has to flee.

It is not Satan that is doing these things to these people. Why give the most cursed beast any glory at all? It is God that is doing these things. for all power and glory and judgement belongs to God. Consider oh people, why God is displeased with you. It is because of your ways and the ways of your generations. This is why the Acknowledgements are crucial, because if you will acknowledge your generations' ways are all wrong and if you will acknowledge that powerful is the God that judges and curses your generations, then God is merciful, and he will show mercy, and he will restore just as easily as he can take away.

Understand what God says here in Hosea 5;

"I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him. I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early. "
I don’t think your considering what scripture actually says about Satan he has a seat of power in the earth and authority also in the world it’s what gives the beast power

“And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:4, 7-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think you are ignoring what’s plain and revealed to the church and looking backwards into a veil that obscures things.

Satan has much power in earth , he no longer has a place in heaven but consider that he had enough power to lead a third of Gods angels astray and all of mankind astray and into death.

until Christ came forth he had overcome all man. It was and is infact only Christ who has more power in man than Satan does that’s why we need to let Christ rebuke him he has already overcome him if we start spouting off and railin against him it’s just not a good idea

To understand Christ has all power and had overcome him is a good thing to know Christ keeps us safe from him is a great thing to think he has no power in earth is not a wise idea when it’s so clear

“And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:

he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

….Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

…And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
…..And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:3-4, 7-9, 12-13, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Christ keeps us safe if we dwell
In him but I think your way off to believe he has no power in this world it seems evident if you look at the New Testament revelations about him…..

that’s why we need Christ in us

“Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:4‬ ‭

But honestly people are going to often think what they think in my belief I don’t try to make scripture not relevant or reject it’s message so I’d say we shouldn’t pretend our enemy isn’t capable of mass destruction of we drop
Our guard he’s definately extremely powerful in this world it’s why you see evil everywhere you look

he has people in a snare and in service to him who don’t know Christ through man this “ powerless being “ has corrupted and destroyed the earth and human life since Eden and will continue to do so until Christ returns and places him here in due time

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:41‬ ‭KJV‬‬

until he’s first bound

“And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and later is sealed into the eternal
Punishment of flame prepared for him and his angels and his children he’s going to continue to destroy mankind

I’d say he’s exhibited a lot of power all along but that’s just my view of what scriptire seems to shout

you are certainly entitled to disagree and believe as you will and interpret as you will. You don’t have to agree with me
 
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I don’t think your considering what scripture actually says about Satan he has a seat of power in the earth and authority also in the world it’s what gives the beast power

“And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:4, 7-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think you are ignoring what’s plain and revealed to the church and looking backwards into a veil that obscures things.

Satan has much power in earth , he no longer has a place in heaven but consider that he had enough power to lead a third of Gods angels astray and all of mankind astray and into death.

until Christ came forth he had overcome all man. It was and is infact only Christ who has more power in man than Satan does that’s why we need to let Christ rebuke him he has already overcome him if we start spouting off and railin against him it’s just not a good idea

To understand Christ has all power and had overcome him is a good thing to know Christ keeps us safe from him is a great thing to think he has no power in earth is not a wise idea when it’s so clear

“And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:

he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

….Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

…And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
…..And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:3-4, 7-9, 12-13, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Christ keeps us safe if we dwell
In him but I think your way off to believe he has no power in this world it seems evident if you look at the New Testament revelations about him…..

that’s why we need Christ in us

“Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:4‬ ‭

But honestly people are going to often think what they think in my belief I don’t try to make scripture not relevant or reject it’s message so I’d say we shouldn’t pretend our enemy isn’t capable of mass destruction of we drop
Our guard he’s definately extremely powerful in this world it’s why you see evil everywhere you look

he has people in a snare and in service to him who don’t know Christ through man this “ powerless being “ has corrupted and destroyed the earth and human life since Eden and will continue to do so until Christ returns and places him here in due time

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:41‬ ‭KJV‬‬

until he’s first bound

“And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and later is sealed into the eternal
Punishment of flame prepared for him and his angels and his children he’s going to continue to destroy mankind

I’d say he’s exhibited a lot of power all along but that’s just my view of what scriptire seems to shout

you are certainly entitled to disagree and believe as you will and interpret as you will. You don’t have to agree with me
No, I am aware of what the scripture says about Satan. Much of what you copied here is about his inevitable future, his destiny and ultimately his death during the end times. You should go back to the Garden if you really want to know what he really is, how he became called by his names Satan and Devil, how he got cursed, and also the first prophecy of his death when the Lord my God cursed him above all cattle, the lowest animal in all of the creation.

Fear God only, and this is the beginning of wisdom.