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Hevosmies

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I seen a meeting by the Pope of Roman Catholicism and a Guy they identified they called him the Greek Orthodox POPE....<---have heard this applies to all that are under the Eastern version of Catholicism .......after all Rome did divide into both East and West with two capitols and two Popes.....the end result is BOTH coming under the same banner with ALL of the daughters of both folding in as well........regardless....they were both speaking of reunifying under one banner......
To be honest: You cant tell a dimes worth of difference between the orthodox and catholics. Its pretty much the same thing, lets be honest. The orthodox dont got a pope or purgatory, and they baptize by immersion, but other than that... praying to saints and mary still present.
 
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To be honest: You cant tell a dimes worth of difference between the orthodox and catholics. Its pretty much the same thing, lets be honest. The orthodox dont got a pope or purgatory, and they baptize by immersion, but other than that... praying to saints and mary still present.
I know.......and like I said there is a push by the current Pope to reunify both the Eastern and Western versions of Catholicism with ALL the daughters being brought under the umbrella..... <---Included within this and at the meeting there was also representatives of Islam and Judaism.....the three Monotheistic religions on the planet and compromising almost half of the world's population...........The Pope in my mind is the false prophet.....the 2nd beast with two horns one higher than the other <---representing Roman Catholicism and Greek/Eastern Orthodox Catholicism with the Roman Horn being the higher of the two.......
 

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I know.......and like I said there is a push by the current Pope to reunify both the Eastern and Western versions of Catholicism with ALL the daughters being brought under the umbrella..... <---Included within this and at the meeting there was also representatives of Islam and Judaism.....the three Monotheistic religions on the planet and compromising almost half of the world's population...........The Pope in my mind is the false prophet.....the 2nd beast with two horns one higher than the other <---representing Roman Catholicism and Greek/Eastern Orthodox Catholicism with the Roman Horn being the higher of the two.......
Hey Dcon I do agree that the possibility of the reunification of the two at first was a cause for concern.
When I first heard about it . So I did what I thought was correct I researched the topic. I found that the reunification push is a old thing. With the first talks dating back to 1170 and hundreds sense.
Also the prospects of it actually happening any time soon is pretty much nada . With the garbage on both sides in such disagreement. You would probably see the Baptist join one of the two before those two join hands . Example the last discussion between the two was a epistle titled , concerning his past, the abysmal State of Papism, and a plea to return to Holy Orthodoxy. Yea the Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox make a big show in a push to reassure the masses concerning problems like with in 100 years believing Islamic followers may outnumber believing Catholics in Europe or the priest abuse scandal. The talks are just the death rattle of two failed man made religions trying hang onto relevances in a world that has literally passed them by
Blessings
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Hey Dcon I do agree that the possibility of the reunification of the two at first was a cause for concern.
When I first heard about it . So I did what I thought was correct I researched the topic. I found that the reunification push is a old thing. With the first talks dating back to 1170 and hundreds sense.
Also the prospects of it actually happening any time soon is pretty much nada . With the garbage on both sides in such disagreement. You would probably see the Baptist join one of the two before those two join hands . Example the last discussion between the two was a epistle titled , concerning his past, the abysmal State of Papism, and a plea to return to Holy Orthodoxy. Yea the Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox make a big show in a push to reassure the masses concerning problems like with in 100 years believing Islamic followers may outnumber believing Catholics in Europe or the priest abuse scandal. The talks are just the death rattle of two failed man made religions trying hang onto relevances in a world that has literally passed them by
Blessings
Bill
I respect your view bro, but I do not believe it.....I believe they will come together under one banner with ALL of the daughters tied in as well.....and I fully believe the POPE will gain the power dia SATAN to work such works that ALL will embrace his as from GOD and then when HE points to the 1st BEAST they will believe and fold in under said banner............Humanity WILL unite under the 1st and 2nd beast and it can happen a lot faster than most are willing to accept......especially when one takes a head shot, falls dead, stands empowered by Satan and begins calling fire down from heaven while working ALL signs, miracles and LYING wonders............LOOK how they flock to a bleeding statue of MARY or when ONE claims a miracle...........
 

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The talks are just the death rattle of two failed man made religions trying hang onto relevances in a world that has literally passed them by
Hi Brother Laish.

I know you wrote this about man-made religions BUT, this almost brings a tear to my eye.
I think this applies to protestant Christianity too, where its a shell of its former self, services look like a disco in many cases instead of a reverent service of God with amazing hymns about God's grace and the blood of the Lamb. Now we got disco lights electronic-music and homoerotic lyrics (no lie, you wouldnt even know it was a Christian song) that dont even mention Jesus.

I WONT EVER HEARKEN THE DOOR OF THE LOCAL PENTECOSTAL CHURCH AGAIN after I saw what I saw there.

Pastor John MacArthur talked about this in one of his sermons, he said that it used to be when someone got saved you could just tell them "go to a church nearby" and they would be quite safe and sound. Now its the opposite: "dont go there, dont go there and ESPECIALLY avoid that place"

I believe the reason the churches changed so fast is because its the last days. Its a dire situation here in Europe. In America you still got some traditional churches that are doing great and unlike in Europe, I know for a FACT that some Godly churches in America are GROWING, not decreasing! I have seen their services on youtube, REGULAR God- glorifying services. keep on keeping on!
 

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I respect your view bro, but I do not believe it.....I believe they will come together under one banner with ALL of the daughters tied in as well.....and I fully believe the POPE will gain the power dia SATAN to work such works that ALL will embrace his as from GOD and then when HE points to the 1st BEAST they will believe and fold in under said banner............Humanity WILL unite under the 1st and 2nd beast and it can happen a lot faster than most are willing to accept......especially when one takes a head shot, falls dead, stands empowered by Satan and begins calling fire down from heaven while working ALL signs, miracles and LYING wonders............LOOK how they flock to a bleeding statue of MARY or when ONE claims a miracle...........
Well we will agree to disagree Dcon hopefully no hard feelings. I take that the reason the two are wacked and divided in their theology is a blessing protecting the Church. Not one particularl denomination but the body of true believers.
Blessings
Bill
 

Laish

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Hi Brother Laish.

I know you wrote this about man-made religions BUT, this almost brings a tear to my eye.
I think this applies to protestant Christianity too, where its a shell of its former self, services look like a disco in many cases instead of a reverent service of God with amazing hymns about God's grace and the blood of the Lamb. Now we got disco lights electronic-music and homoerotic lyrics (no lie, you wouldnt even know it was a Christian song) that dont even mention Jesus.

I WONT EVER HEARKEN THE DOOR OF THE LOCAL PENTECOSTAL CHURCH AGAIN after I saw what I saw there.

Pastor John MacArthur talked about this in one of his sermons, he said that it used to be when someone got saved you could just tell them "go to a church nearby" and they would be quite safe and sound. Now its the opposite: "dont go there, dont go there and ESPECIALLY avoid that place"

I believe the reason the churches changed so fast is because its the last days. Its a dire situation here in Europe. In America you still got some traditional churches that are doing great and unlike in Europe, I know for a FACT that some Godly churches in America are GROWING, not decreasing! I have seen their services on youtube, REGULAR God- glorifying services. keep on keeping on!
I understand where you are coming from. We have our share of problems here too . Many of wich we have exported to the whole world. Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons to name the two big ones. Just in the past few years we have had groups using tarot cards in their faith. It’s a scary thing bro . Yet it’s not a new thing either. The New Testament epistles show us how error creeped in and how the apostles had to correct some churches. I do thank God that there are some great churches here too . I will pray if you haven’t found a good church home that you find one soon. I count my self blessed that I have a great congregation nearby. Take courage and pray often brother your witness will no doubt help others.
Blessings
Bill
 

Hevosmies

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I understand where you are coming from. We have our share of problems here too . Many of wich we have exported to the whole world. Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons to name the two big ones. Just in the past few years we have had groups using tarot cards in their faith. It’s a scary thing bro . Yet it’s not a new thing either. The New Testament epistles show us how error creeped in and how the apostles had to correct some churches. I do thank God that there are some great churches here too . I will pray if you haven’t found a good church home that you find one soon. I count my self blessed that I have a great congregation nearby. Take courage and pray often brother your witness will no doubt help others.
Blessings
Bill
Thanks

WOW, TAROT CARDS in Christian faith? Oy vey!
 

Laish

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Thanks

WOW, TAROT CARDS in Christian faith? Oy vey!
Yea sad but true as the song goes.
Hey may I ask where in Europe do you live ?
I was actually born in Germany and lived in Italy too . Dad was in military so I got to see a lot of Europe growing up .
Blessings
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Well we will agree to disagree Dcon hopefully no hard feelings. I take that the reason the two are wacked and divided in their theology is a blessing protecting the Church. Not one particularl denomination but the body of true believers.
Blessings
Bill
I have no hard feelings and or never have had bro....and it is all good and will wash out in the end...... ;)
 

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I like you spirit VCO in trying to reason things through without differences getting in the way. Something to consider about what you posted is that from Romes dividing (10 horns,toes) three of the nations that held world dominance across history were England,France and Spain. It seems important because from the discovry of the new world(Americas) the thirteen colonies first fought the French Indian war(France), the Revolutionary war(England) and the Spanish American war(Spain) in becoming the super power it is today. And it rose "after" the ten before it as a small horn(13 colonies) and over powered those three then super powers.

Not really, what I was talking about. Yes Horns, Mountains, Heads are symbols in Biblical Prophecy, for NATIONS. I think it is all talking about 10 Nations to start with, then SHORTLY after that THREE WILL merge with other Nations, Leaving only SEVEN Mountains (NATIONS), in the Confederacy. WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE of handing over supreme power to a DICTATOR , several of the Current EU Nation will bow out of the EU, just like Britain already did.
 
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we, hub and I say this;

the beast comes to gobble up and extend it's territory, and most of those who will be gobbled up,
will let themselves believe that 'they are devine'...

the sights of the evil ones shall try to be covered with a cloth ecclesiastic, but these adders
in fine raiment and jewel will almost fool even the sharpest scholar...0

oh yes, the curse of the false church searches-out it's victims, one-by-one -
but, the Enlightened shall be beseeching the many to forsake the whore and all of her daughters,
that are betraying them in a 'lamb's disguise'...
 

VCO

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i live in the EU and i can confirm its a demonic instituion.

They are literally dictating everything to the nation states in the EU. Its like we arent even independent anymore its just EU EU EU EU and their rules.
Even our traditional foods are directed and given an official recipe or else it cant be called that (Now people are doing paper work to change this so they can use their family recipes and sell it at their bakeries with the right name). NO LIE. Thats how petty it is. control freaks.

Here is Nigel Farage speaking to the EU the Morning after he announce that Britain would be leaving the EU. I call it, "How to insult the EU, POLITELY". IT IS FUNNY.

Who is the guy in 18 two to the right of Nigel Farage.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D0JV7AO/ref=cfb_at_prodpg
 
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Not really, what I was talking about. Yes Horns, Mountains, Heads are symbols in Biblical Prophecy, for NATIONS. I think it is all talking about 10 Nations to start with, then SHORTLY after that THREE WILL merge with other Nations, Leaving only SEVEN Mountains (NATIONS), in the Confederacy. WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE of handing over supreme power to a DICTATOR , several of the Current EU Nation will bow out of the EU, just like Britain already did.

Iwould agree Horns, Mountains, Heads are symbols in Biblical Prophecy, for NATIONS. What does 10 and 7 symbolize of in those parables or signified language ?

Does 10 represent all the nations of the world as a unknown number like 100 or 1000 and 7 perfect as is complete?
 
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To be honest: You cant tell a dimes worth of difference between the orthodox and catholics. Its pretty much the same thing, lets be honest. The orthodox dont got a pope or purgatory, and they baptize by immersion, but other than that... praying to saints and mary still present.

They can be compared to the Pharisees "with" Saducees. Two sects that walked by sight after the natural course of this world. No faith that comes from earing God through the scriptures putting aside their difference to try and make the word of God without effect so that they can rather get under the authority of the oral tradition of men called a "law of the fathers"

Show us a sign then we will believe.(sign seekers)

Matthew 16:1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would "shew them a sign from heaven".
 

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Iwould agree Horns, Mountains, Heads are symbols in Biblical Prophecy, for NATIONS. What does 10 and 7 symbolize of in those parables or signified language ?

Does 10 represent all the nations of the world as a unknown number like 100 or 1000 and 7 perfect as is complete?

ARE YOU SAYING YOU THINK THE BOOK OF REVELATION, Zechariah especially Chapter 14, and portions of Jeremiah and Isaiah are just Parables ? ? ?

It so, you have a RUDE AWAKENING TO REALITY COMING.
 

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Hi Brother Laish.

I know you wrote this about man-made religions BUT, this almost brings a tear to my eye.
I think this applies to protestant Christianity too, where its a shell of its former self, services look like a disco in many cases instead of a reverent service of God with amazing hymns about God's grace and the blood of the Lamb. Now we got disco lights electronic-music and homoerotic lyrics (no lie, you wouldnt even know it was a Christian song) that dont even mention Jesus.

I WONT EVER HEARKEN THE DOOR OF THE LOCAL PENTECOSTAL CHURCH AGAIN after I saw what I saw there.

Pastor John MacArthur talked about this in one of his sermons, he said that it used to be when someone got saved you could just tell them "go to a church nearby" and they would be quite safe and sound. Now its the opposite: "dont go there, dont go there and ESPECIALLY avoid that place"

I believe the reason the churches changed so fast is because its the last days. Its a dire situation here in Europe. In America you still got some traditional churches that are doing great and unlike in Europe, I know for a FACT that some Godly churches in America are GROWING, not decreasing! I have seen their services on youtube, REGULAR God- glorifying services. keep on keeping on!

As if it's as though everyone is looking for the next new Troy Aikman to step up we seem to go from one to the other of the preachers and are looking for the big performance. In this case though we seem to go from one truth to looking for the new new truth and see the grand performance measured by who can put on the same show as the Sanhedrin when Jesus pointed out they saw it as all for show.

That's the error in our ways it seems,that is we see that it says that the Jews saw it all carnal and were doing nothing more than putting on a show. Then as if we understood things our idea was how we should correct that was to set up all kinds of carnal things and put on a better show,lol.
 

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Not really, what I was talking about. Yes Horns, Mountains, Heads are symbols in Biblical Prophecy, for NATIONS. I think it is all talking about 10 Nations to start with, then SHORTLY after that THREE WILL merge with other Nations, Leaving only SEVEN Mountains (NATIONS), in the Confederacy. WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE of handing over supreme power to a DICTATOR , several of the Current EU Nation will bow out of the EU, just like Britain already did.

I don't see how it could be seen as having three horns in it's mouth if three are bowing out and merging with others it seems like three are being plucked out of it's mouth from what you said.