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Tintin

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Kosie said:
Stunnedbygrace. Why is this ONE DAY for you so far? God says BEHOLD the Kingdom is AT HAND. Paul says HE CAN GRAB IT...
God says if anyone KEEP His Word He and the Son will come and ABIDE IN THIS PERSON and make that person their home. That day is today! We can get the FULLNESS of Jesus TODAY! We can enter into HIS KINGDOM now! The faith is rewarded HERE! There is no change in the holiness of a saved person. only in the body he will clothe for eternity. The spirit and soul of the person will not change one little bit for the new body. That part was COMPLETED by the Father here on earth. That is why NO SINNER can enter into the Kingdom. But only a holy person.

If we do not enter into Jesus here on earth, and He not into us, we cannot enter at all. Jesus said FATHER I AM GLORIFIED in them. He did not say I will be glorified in them, Jesus glorifies us HERE with the same Glory he had as man. EXACTLY to his godliness God makes us HERE! The flesh will rot and die but the resurrected HOLY MAN CANNOT DIE EVER. Everlasting life means EVERLASTING. You either have it or you do not. You are Holy or evil, Sinner or SAINT NEVER both!
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Actually, we're both saint and sinner until we're given our glorified new bodies. Then we're just saints.
 
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Kosie

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Really tintin can you give me a verse saying that?
I can give you this....
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
AND MANY MORE. Your teaching is not in line with what the Bible teach. A Saint is from the greek Word HAGIOS meaning PURE HOLY and seperated by God for God.
God does not seperate sinners to be sinners, but to be saints.
Some sinners are in the process to be saints, and even when theyare saints (STOPPED SINNING) God still work on them to COMPLETE them, to be PERFECT God says. To the fullness and stature of Jesus. Every sinner needs saving and every saved person is PERFECT! That is what the Bible teach and that is the GOOD news. There is no good news in a gospel that says we will always be sinners here on earth. That says sin rules God's salvation, and it does not! If God sanctify, justify and GLORIFY that person is Filled, Clothed and SEALED with Jesus Himself, in Spirit. And that is True holiness and righteousness. As holy and as righteous as God Himself. I can prove every statement with verses and you know this, you might not see it or believe it but I think you know these verses and Scripture.
 
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Johnlove

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Kosie said:
Do you think SIN AND HOLY SPIRIT dwell in one vessel? When Paul spoke these words, was he full of the Holy Spirit or not? How can a man be full of the Holy Spirit and still house sin as well? Or did Paul say this to the Romans because they were not even SAINTS YET? Paul says this as well, now were there perfect people then or was he mislead? Read some of Paul's sayings as well, then you tell me Paul still sinned AFTER God filled him.

Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
1Co 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
Read the Word in 1 Cor 2 and see there that Paul could not teach the same Truth to all people. Milk for babies and Steak for the perfect. A lot of steak is wasted in the year 2016.
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Paul in Romans Seven was telling us just how impossible it is to obey God without having the grace given to us by the Holy Spirt. One’s spirit may want, to do God’s Will, but our flesh is not always able to do so, because it is too weak.

In Romans Eight Paul tell us how God made it possible for us to always obey God. And people who want to believe they are righteous even though they continue to sin need to not read and understand what Paul said in Romans eight.

(Romans 8:1-4) “The reason, therefore, why those who are in Christ Jesus are not condemned, is that the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. God has done what the Law, because of our unspiritual nature, was unable to do. God dealt with sin by sending his own Son in a body as physical as any sinful body, and in that body God condemned sin he did this in order the Law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the spirit dictates.”
 
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