Are you a Trinitarian, and if so, can you defend the doctrine?
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Ok, now that we know they were not angels, who are these:
Job 38:
4“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
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7while the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God a shouted for joy?
Pro 8:
29When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Job 38:
4“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
..........
7while the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God a shouted for joy?
Pro 8:
29When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
You are teaching Oneness theology.
And, as I said, it is a sock-puppet theology that denies the distinct personhood of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and the relationships within the Triune God.
It is an incoherent view of Scripture, as it does not account for Jesus interceding for mankind to the Father, as well as any other interpersonal activity within the Triune God.
And, as I said, it is a sock-puppet theology that denies the distinct personhood of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and the relationships within the Triune God.
It is an incoherent view of Scripture, as it does not account for Jesus interceding for mankind to the Father, as well as any other interpersonal activity within the Triune God.
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We can actually read and write these day you know.
My real issue is with women senior pastors. There is no such thing. I also don't believe in women exerting inappropriate dominance over males (of course I don't deny motherhood involves this, but it is appropriate).
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Jesus interceding for mankind doesn't prove Trinity.
I asked you earlier, when the Father lives in Jesus (one person), does Jesus become two persons or does He remain one person?
Answering such questions will help in understanding Trinity and perhaps defend the doctrine, not your constant opinions of what you think of 'cults'
I asked you earlier, when the Father lives in Jesus (one person), does Jesus become two persons or does He remain one person?
Answering such questions will help in understanding Trinity and perhaps defend the doctrine, not your constant opinions of what you think of 'cults'
Jesus is one Person, the Father is one Person. The Holy Spirit is one Person.
They mutually indwell one another.
Therefore, they retain their distinct Personhood regardless of this indwelling.
This indwelling is exactly part of being one God...It is called coessentiality..they share the same essence.
What is so difficult about this that you cannot understand? It is straightforward.
They mutually indwell one another.
Therefore, they retain their distinct Personhood regardless of this indwelling.
This indwelling is exactly part of being one God...It is called coessentiality..they share the same essence.
What is so difficult about this that you cannot understand? It is straightforward.
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Job 38 says all sons of God rejoiced at creation.
Hebrews 1 says no angel has ever been called a son of God
So, Job 38 is not talking about angels.
Proverbs 8 says wisdom delighted with sons of men at creation.
So?!
The idea that Jesus is God because He pre existed doesn't hold much water. Everyone existed within the spirit of God because it is from God that we get our being. When the spirit of God is taken away, you disappear also.
Q. When were you created? Is it when your parents conceived you?
Hebrews 1 says no angel has ever been called a son of God
So, Job 38 is not talking about angels.
Proverbs 8 says wisdom delighted with sons of men at creation.
So?!
The idea that Jesus is God because He pre existed doesn't hold much water. Everyone existed within the spirit of God because it is from God that we get our being. When the spirit of God is taken away, you disappear also.
Q. When were you created? Is it when your parents conceived you?
Jesus interceding for mankind does prove more than one Person within the Triune God.
The other intercessor is the Holy Spirit, who is like Jesus but is not Jesus.
It's really rather sinple. My point is that interpersonal activity within the Triune God refutes Oneness theology.
Their view can be likened to a puppeteer who uses sock-puppets. He takes one off, and puts on another, whenever the appropriate character is played. This is incoherent, and denies the reality of interpersonal relationships within the Triune God.
But, I'm guessing I could say this a bazillion times and you would still deny it.
The other intercessor is the Holy Spirit, who is like Jesus but is not Jesus.
It's really rather sinple. My point is that interpersonal activity within the Triune God refutes Oneness theology.
Their view can be likened to a puppeteer who uses sock-puppets. He takes one off, and puts on another, whenever the appropriate character is played. This is incoherent, and denies the reality of interpersonal relationships within the Triune God.
But, I'm guessing I could say this a bazillion times and you would still deny it.
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Hebrews 1 is asking to which of the angels has God begotten them as He did the Son. Zilch, zero. Job 1:6 and 2:1 also refer to angels as sons of God.
But Hebrews 1 is showing the Christ’s superiority over angels, over every thing. Just like Paul called Timothy his son, it didn’t mean Paul was literally his dad. The angels are sons of God, but they’re created beings. The Son is God the Son.
But Hebrews 1 is showing the Christ’s superiority over angels, over every thing. Just like Paul called Timothy his son, it didn’t mean Paul was literally his dad. The angels are sons of God, but they’re created beings. The Son is God the Son.
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