Are you a Trinitarian, and if so, can you defend the doctrine?

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Are you a Trinitarian, and can you defend the doctrine?

  • Yes, I am a Trinitarian, and I can defend the doctrine.

    Votes: 37 63.8%

  • Yes, I am a Trinitarian, but I cannot defend the doctrine.

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • No, I deny the doctrine of the Trinity.

    Votes: 16 27.6%

  • I don't know if the Trinity is true or false.

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • Total voters
    58
Dave-L

Dave-L

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Absolutely said:
My example,that you quoted ,illustrates the trinity perfectly.
So yes the trinity is non negotiable....IOW TRUE
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How do you define the doctrine? Or which creed do you quote?
 
Absolutely

Absolutely

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Dave-L said:
You should know wich ones. They are standards.
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Been many years since i looked at creeds.
Btw all faiths have them.

I do not center there on creeds.
Creeds are not bible
 
Absolutely

Absolutely

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Jerzy said:
1. The word "trinity" doesn't appear in the Bible.
2. God forbade adding and removing from his Word.

Therefore, we are instructed (by Jesus and the NT writers) to say exactly as it is written.
If one thinks that he/she can defend the doctrine of the "Trinity God", he/she should be aware of the consequences of "defending" of non-biblical words/statements.
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Then all bibles are off limits because i cant find "bible" in the bible.
 
Absolutely

Absolutely

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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
Apparently discernment is lost on some ppl. :rolleyes:
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The trinty ,one God but 3 beings,is easily defended with a bible.

No english words are found anywhere in the original hebrew text. Does not mean our different words are some bogey man
 
Absolutely

Absolutely

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Dave-L said:
I don't think you know what the Creeds say about the trinity.
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You ever get off the deflection mode?

They are online. Many different ones.
The ancient ones. Which one is correct?

You invoked them. Tell us which one you endorse?
No deflection. Stand up and stand for your beliefs.
Which creed is correct.
Answer it or cease making claims
 
Dave-L

Dave-L

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Absolutely said:
You ever get off the deflection mode?

They are online. Many different ones.
The ancient ones. Which one is correct?

You invoked them. Tell us which one you endorse?
No deflection. Stand up and stand for your beliefs.
Which creed is correct.
Answer it or cease making claims
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If you don't know what the Ecumenical Creeds say about the trinity, you do not understand the doctrine.
 
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Alertandawake

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Aug 20, 2017
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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
They are two distinct persons, not two distinct beings.
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This statement above is so laughable it is not funny. It is illogical. It makes no sense. A person is a being. This statement above is like someone saying "I own two motor vehicles but I don't own any automobiles"

Now I will speak my mind on this matter. When I asked earlier on about John 17.3, according to Jesus Christ who is the only true God? The reason why I did not get a direct answer is because quite bluntly, those who support and defend the trinity are unable or unwilling to answer this question, and I will give my reasons for why I say this.

The verse John 17.3 when read in proper context is deadly to trinitarians because this very verse destroy's the trinitarian concept. And this is why based on my observations and research, trinitarians will never acknowledge The Father is the only true God, because the minute they do, their belief in the trinity will be shattered. This is why I could not get a direct answer earlier on when I asked the question “How many is The Supreme Being? One or Three?“

Now to keep matters on the same level, so there is no confusion, going by the English language, God is referred to as The Supreme Being or The Creator. To further expand, supreme can mean highest in power and authority. Now if you are the highest in authority, there is no one else higher.

Now for those who defend and accept the trinity, and if you accept that Jesus = God Almighty, then explain this concept when Jesus is on the cross calling out "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" as mentioned in Matthew 27:46.

When Jesus is praying in the garden of Gethsemane, who did Jesus pray to? Once again if you believe and accept Jesus =God Almighty, then who did Jesus pray to?
 
Sackcloth-N-Ashes

Sackcloth-N-Ashes

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Absolutely said:
The trinty ,one God but 3 beings,is easily defended with a bible.

No english words are found anywhere in the original hebrew text. Does not mean our different words are some bogey man
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One God, one Being, three Persons. They are not three separate Beings.
 
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MattforJesus

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UnitedWithChrist said:
Here are five points that define the Trinity. Can you list Scriptures which prove each point?

1. There is one God, and his name is YHVH.
2. This one God reveals Himself in Three distinct Persons; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
3. The Father is God.
4. The Son is God.
5. The Holy Spirit is God.
6. These three Persons are co-eternal and co-essential, meaning that each Person has always existed, and they all share the same
essence.
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What I want to know is if the Son has no beginning as God why is He called Son if He always exists for He would not have a Father.

Why does the Bible say Jesus is conceived by the Holy Spirit the third person of the trinity and not God the Son.

Why does the Bible say one God the Father who is above all, and through all, and in you all, and not mention Son or Holy Spirit.
 
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Jerzy

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JeremiahsCup said:
Man is made in the image of the Father

The Father spoke all of everything into existence by his Word

The Father breathed into the man's nostrils and he became a living spirit.

-------Literally first two pages of the Bible paraphrase

You being in the image of God speak your word by your breath (spirit). Are you, your word, and your breath/spirit three different people or one person?

You are the proof of the triune God.
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I suppose you are searching for the text stating that God is Trinity.

So far your score is nil but keep up!!!

In the mean time I will point you to some of the fool-proof texts:

Isa 11:1-3, 42:1+6, Eze 34:23-24, Mic 5:2, Mt 6:9, 11:25, Jn 5:30-32, 6:23, 6:44-45, 6:65, 14:6, 14:10, 17:3, 20:17, 20:31, Ac 2:22, 2:36, 3:20-26, 10:36, 13:23, 17:31, Ro 1:7, 1Cor 1:3, 8:6, 11:3, 2Co 1:2, 5:18+21, Eph 1:3, 2:18, Ga 1:1, 1:3, Col 1:1-3, 1:12-13, Php 1:2, 1Th 1:1-3, 2Th 1:1-2, 1Ti 1:1-2, 2:5, 2Ti 1:1-2, Ti 1:4, Phm 1:3-4, Heb 1:1-2, Jam 1:1, 1Pe 1:2-3, 2Pe 1:2, 1Jn 1:2-3, 2Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1, Re 1:1, 1:6
 
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