Are you completely Born again????

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watcher2013

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mailmandan said:
Believing AND getting water baptized are two distinct things. Believing is not baptism and believing precedes baptism and we are saved by believing. It's just that simple.
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All I am asking...is baptism not a requirement in your church?
 
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mailmandan said:
Believing AND getting water baptized are two distinct things. Believing is not baptism and believing precedes baptism and we are saved by believing. It's just that simple.
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So the devil can be member of your church??? Much more the devil believed and tremble
 
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It's you who doesn't get it. I never said that believing is just by mind. Believing is with the heart and not just with the mind. We believe in our heart (and not just with our head) that God raised Him from the dead. (Romans 10:9,10) I already answered your question about church membership.
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What do you mean believing with heart?
 
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I did answer that..
I believe that Jesus is the Son of God.
1. Jesus from Israel
2. Preaching peace
3. It is him who preached by John that we should believe
4. He was anointed by God and power of Holy Spirit.
5. He did good and healing
6. He was hang on a tree and rise from the dead on the third day.
7. He is the judge of the quick and the dead..
8. He is the one that saves.
And trust the words he said..
Where he said he who believed and baptized shall be saved..
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The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16) To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
 
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watcher2013 said:
All I am asking...is baptism not a requirement in your church?
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Believers who join the church have already been water baptized. You don't need to get re-baptized in order to join another church.
 
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watcher2013 said:
So the devil can be member of your church??? Much more the devil believed and tremble
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The devils believes "mental assent" that "there is one God" (James 2:19) but they do not believe in/have faith in/trust in Jesus Christ for salvation. Big difference! In other words, they do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and are not saved. (Acts 16:31) Do you understand the difference?
 
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mailmandan said:
Believers who join the church have already been water baptized. You don't need to get re-baptized in order to join another church.
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You seems to be avoiding the core question.
It's not joining about other church..
A non member...
Is baptism required in YOUR church to be a member?
 
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mailmandan said:
The devils believes "mental assent" that "there is one God" (James 2:19) but they do not believe in/have faith in/trust in Jesus Christ for salvation. Big difference! In other words, they do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and are not saved. (Acts 16:31) Do you understand the difference?
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Have not one of the evil spirit said...I know you..you are the Son of the Most holy...
 
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watcher2013 said:
You seems to be avoiding the core question.
It's not joining about other church..
A non member...
Is baptism required in YOUR church to be a member?
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Only believers who have been water baptized join my church. I’m yet to meet a believer who have ever refused to be water baptized them request to join my church. Also, don’t confuse the local church with the Church/the body of Christ.
 
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watcher2013 said:
Have not one of the evil spirit said...I know you..you are the Son of the Most holy...
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It’s one thing to acknowledge “mental assent” that Jesus is the Son of the most holy, yet it’s another thing to believe in/place faith in/trust in Jesus Christ for salvation.
 
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watcher2013 said:
Can you find flesh...before and after "heart" where you based it?
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Do you understand the difference between believing that the death, burial and resurrection of Christ “happened” and trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation?
 
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mailmandan said:
Only believers who have been water baptized join my church. I’m yet to meet a believer who have ever refused to be water baptized them request to join my church. Also, don’t confuse the local church with the Church/the body of Christ.
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Does your church considered baptism as works?
 
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mailmandan said:
Do you understand the difference between believing that the death, burial and resurrection of Christ “happened” and trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation?
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I believed that what Christ have done have brought life to death and brought salvation to mankind.
And he gave instruction how we can enter that life.
 
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mailmandan said:
It’s one thing to acknowledge “mental assent” that Jesus is the Son of the most holy, yet it’s another thing to believe in/place faith in/trust in Jesus Christ for salvation.
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How do you acknowledge then?
 
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watcher2013 said:
I believed that what Christ have done have brought life to death and brought salvation to mankind.
And he gave instruction how we can enter that life.
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See John 3:25,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26.
 
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