Are you completely Born again????

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watcher2013

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mailmandan said:
Do you understand the difference between being a member of the Church, the body of Christ and being a member of a local church? If you did then you would not continue to make your same argument.
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Sorry i thought there is only one Church...
Its the Church were apostles are members along with the 3000in acts 2.
And many more members.
 
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Sorry i thought there is only one Church...
Its the Church were apostles are members along with the 3000in acts 2.
And many more members.
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There is only one Church, which is the body of Christ that is made up of all genuine born again Christians, which is not to be confused with a church building that has a name stamped on it.
 
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mailmandan said:
There is only one Church, which is the body of Christ that is made up of all genuine born again Christians, which is not to be confused with a church building that has a name stamped on it.
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Who is talking about church building?
 
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mailmandan said:
You said join my church, so you are.
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And i said...what is the requirement to be a member of your church...and you said believed...and isolate baptism...
Coz the Church in Acts...they believed and baptize...

Remember the eunuch...philip already explain about Isaiah...
And yet the eunuch asked for baptism, is there any mentioned of baptism in isaiah?
Is it fair to assume that philip mentioned this to him. Just wonder why philip mentioned it..if the eunuch only need to believe...???
 
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mailmandan said:
What does that video have to do with water baptism? Sounds more like an argument about which day Jesus was crucified in order to determine which 3 days He was in the grave.
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Nothing...just want your opinion on the video..
 
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watcher2013 said:
And i said...what is the requirement to be a member of your church...and you said believed...and isolate baptism...
Coz the Church in Acts...they believed and baptize...

Remember the eunuch...philip already explain about Isaiah...
And yet the eunuch asked for baptism, is there any mentioned of baptism in isaiah?
Is it fair to assume that philip mentioned this to him. Just wonder why philip mentioned it..if the eunuch only need to believe...???
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According to (John 3:15,16,18; 20:31; Acts 10:43; 13:39; 16:31; Romans 1:16; 3:22-28; 4:5 etc..) what is required to receive eternal life/salvation? Did Philip believe before or after being water baptized? Did these Gentiles in (Acts 10:43-47; 11:17,18) believe, receive the gift of the Holy Spirit (and the spiritual gift of tongues, which is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) before or after being water baptized?
 
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mailmandan said:
According to (John 3:15,16,18; 20:31; Acts 10:43; 13:39; 16:31; Romans 1:16; 3:22-28; 4:5 etc..) what is required to receive eternal life/salvation? Did Philip believe before or after being water baptized? Did these Gentiles in (Acts 10:43-47; 11:17,18) believe, receive the gift of the Holy Spirit (and the spiritual gift of tongues, which is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) before or after being water baptized?
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The house of cornelius received the holy Ghost before baptism.
Some recieved it after baptism and the laying of hands acts 19..
I do not deny that believing will give eternal life...
All i am saying is there's another (baptism)
What important about true baptism..is you cannot baptise who do not believe.
 
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watcher2013 said:
Watch the video...
That site does not cover the true meaning of heart of the earth
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I’ve heard arguments already for Wednesday and Friday. Some people believe that the heart of the earth is the grave, while others point to Abraham’s bosom.
 
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watcher2013 said:
The house of cornelius received the holy Ghost before baptism.
Some recieved it after baptism and the laying of hands acts 19..
I do not deny that believing will give eternal life...
All i am saying is there's another (baptism)
What important about true baptism..is you cannot baptise who do not believe.
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Are those who have believed and received the Holy Spirt (before water baptism) saved or still lost? Receiving the Holy Spirit after having hands laid on them is the exception, not the rule for all. Whether you like it or not, multiple people have been water baptized who do not truly believe.
 
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mailmandan said:
Are those who have believed and received the Holy Spirt (before water baptism) saved or still lost? Receiving the Holy Spirit after having hands laid on them is the exception, not the rule for all. Whether you like it or not, multiple people have been water baptized who do not truly believe.
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The answer to that is cornelius...what peter said...
Act 10:47-48 KJV 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days....
As i said..thise who do not believed if baptize...their baptism has no effect...
 
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mailmandan said:
Are those who have believed and received the Holy Spirt (before water baptism) saved or still lost? Receiving the Holy Spirit after having hands laid on them is the exception, not the rule for all. Whether you like it or not, multiple people have been water baptized who do not truly believe.
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watcher2013 said:
The answer to that is cornelius...what peter said...
Act 10:47-48 KJV 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days....
As i said..thise who do not believed if baptize...their baptism has no effect...
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I hope you can see it..
Baptism is inevitable to those who recieved the holy ghost...
Can ANY MAN FORBID WATER..
 
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I hope you can see it..
Baptism is inevitable to those who recieved the holy ghost...
Can ANY MAN FORBID WATER..
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Water baptism “follows” believing unto salvation and does not precede it. I hope you can see it.
 
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