Are you RIGHTEOUS?
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Jesus said to LABOR to enter his rest. What is this work he would have us to do.
I see myself married to him, he's a king, If I don't know much about him, I would ask of some one close to him. It would have to be, some one with an intimate knowledge of him. So the first question would and should be, The Holy Spirit. For who knows the mind of God except the Spirit of God.
Eleazor was charged with bringing rebecca to Issac. he is a picture of the Holy Spirit, Issac is a picture of Jesus. And Abraham is the picture of Our Father.
When rebecca first saw Issac from afar off she knew it was him. why because during the journey she asked of eleazor, about his master.
During our journey, we should also ask, For the NT, say, The Holy Spirit will teach us all things
Side note rebecca was made righteous the moment she excepted the engagement ring. Have you excepted the ring
I see myself married to him, he's a king, If I don't know much about him, I would ask of some one close to him. It would have to be, some one with an intimate knowledge of him. So the first question would and should be, The Holy Spirit. For who knows the mind of God except the Spirit of God.
Eleazor was charged with bringing rebecca to Issac. he is a picture of the Holy Spirit, Issac is a picture of Jesus. And Abraham is the picture of Our Father.
When rebecca first saw Issac from afar off she knew it was him. why because during the journey she asked of eleazor, about his master.
During our journey, we should also ask, For the NT, say, The Holy Spirit will teach us all things
Side note rebecca was made righteous the moment she excepted the engagement ring. Have you excepted the ring
Resting/remaining/abiding in the Lord is not a lazy passive existence. When we know that God has already provided everything we need and we access His wisdom, provision, strength by faith - we'll be governed by the Holy Spirit in a highly strategic and active life.
I agree. I don't usually talk about things like this but I will tonight as it illustrates this "in action".
I was getting money out of my bank this morning and there was a guy outside playing the guitar. This guy looked like he went through very hard times and was not bumming money nor did he have a pot to put money in. He's just wacked out by life circumstances and plays the guitar and sings to himself.
When I was at the ATM - I saw in my spirit to give him $20 ( that's how I would describe it as it was not a voice but more like a "knowing" or a seeing of it...sometimes it's hard to articulate spiritual realities with our human minds )
I walked out and told Him that God wanted him to know that He loves him and that Jesus loves him and that He thinks you are awesome. Then walked away. I could see the unbelief in his eyes that someone would do and say something like just happened to him. He thanked me and I left.
This is an example of a good work being led by the Spirit of God within me as I have walked past the same man numerous times before.
I didn't do it "in order to keep myself saved" - nor if I didn't do it would my loving Father and Lord send me to hell because of not doing "good works" - ( that is such an anti-Christ belief )
I did it because of the life of Christ within me was responding by the direction of the Holy Spirit and I got to participate in the family business of showing someone the love and grace of our loving Father and Lord have for them.
I planted the seed - someone else will water - but it is God that will work in that man to reveal Christ more fully to him as He did to all of us that believe in our Lord.
Resting in Christ's finished work is our obedience and of our faith in action and it is our spiritual warfare and it will manifest itself in good works originating from the Spirit of God within us.
Resting/remaining/abiding in the Lord is not a lazy passive existence. When we know that God has already provided everything we need and we access His wisdom, provision, strength by faith - we'll be governed by the Holy Spirit in a highly strategic and active life.
I agree. I don't usually talk about things like this but I will tonight as it illustrates this "in action".
I was getting money out of my bank this morning and there was a guy outside playing the guitar. This guy looked like he went through very hard times and was not bumming money nor did he have a pot to put money in. He's just wacked out by life circumstances and plays the guitar and sings to himself.
When I was at the ATM - I saw in my spirit to give him $20 ( that's how I would describe it as it was not a voice but more like a "knowing" or a seeing of it...sometimes it's hard to articulate spiritual realities with our human minds )
I walked out and told Him that God wanted him to know that He loves him and that Jesus loves him and that He thinks you are awesome. Then walked away. I could see the unbelief in his eyes that someone would do and say something like just happened to him. He thanked me and I left.
This is an example of a good work being led by the Spirit of God within me as I have walked past the same man numerous times before.
I didn't do it "in order to keep myself saved" - nor if I didn't do it would my loving Father and Lord send me to hell because of not doing "good works" - ( that is such an anti-Christ belief )
I did it because of the life of Christ within me was responding by the direction of the Holy Spirit and I got to participate in the family business of showing someone the love and grace of our loving Father and Lord have for them.
I planted the seed - someone else will water - but it is God that will work in that man to reveal Christ more fully to him as He did to all of us that believe in our Lord.
Resting in Christ's finished work is our obedience and of our faith in action and it is our spiritual warfare and it will manifest itself in good works originating from the Spirit of God within us.
Amen to the "family business"!
And this is the family business of which we all have a part to play in - some it manifests in different ways then others do and no one does it the same as we have different functions within the "family business".
2 Corinthians 5:18-21 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
And this is the family business of which we all have a part to play in - some it manifests in different ways then others do and no one does it the same as we have different functions within the "family business".
2 Corinthians 5:18-21 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Amen Bruce. I'd give you a rep, but I'm all out for ya.
We are a family, we are the body of Christ, we are the Church.
His light shines through us, and in Him there is no condemnation.
We are not bound or strapped down or burdened any more. We are truly free through Him.
We now have the light of our Lord Jesus in us that we get to reflect into a dark and dying world.
We are a family, we are the body of Christ, we are the Church.
His light shines through us, and in Him there is no condemnation.
We are not bound or strapped down or burdened any more. We are truly free through Him.
We now have the light of our Lord Jesus in us that we get to reflect into a dark and dying world.
Well...if you really want to do a "good work" and keep yourself saved - you need to send me $100....
Do you really want to continue to build on the sand? You must be a "doer of the word" and not a hearer only...
( don't ya just love the spiritual manipulation?...lol )
Do you really want to continue to build on the sand? You must be a "doer of the word" and not a hearer only...
( don't ya just love the spiritual manipulation?...lol )
Grandpa mentioned it earlier too, "You can't really have yourself a good religion if you can't tell people they have to do stuff. And if they don't - eternal damnation..."
Hi Grandpa,
May I ask you who these people are you describe in red above? Seems like you are very good at judging others and can read the heart and someones walk with God? As for me I do not know of anyone that believes they need to do any of the above to be saved or that those things bring them salvation. I would be interested to hear back from you. I love the scriptures you quoted. They are meant for those following Jesus and continue is His Word.
I believe also that there is a false Gospel being preached by many people and this is a Gospel that tries to separate God’s Law (the 10 commandments) from the Cross of Christ. As mentioned in earlier posts to you and others here. Without God’s Law there is no knowledge of sin because sin is the transgression of God’s Law (1John 3:4; Rom 3:20). If we have no knowledge of sin we have no need of a Saviour. If we have no Saviour we have no salvation. If we have no salvation we are lost. “For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law.” (Rom 2:12).
It is only by the Law of God that we can see ourselves as we really are; sinners in need of salvation. It is only here that we can cry out “Lord save me”. It is only here that we can hold on to the Word of God by faith that God can work his work in us who believe. God’s Law is what brings the sinner to Christ. The counterfeit Gospel seeks to do away with God’s Law to give people the same belief as devils but we all know they will not be saved will they. (James 2:18-19)
If you choose the teachings of men over the Word of God this is between you and God. Please work out your own salvation with fear and trembling knowing if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day (John 12:47-48).
What the poster in post #330 is saying ( as can be seen by going to the Sabbath thread ) is that if Christians do not follow the Sabbath as outlined in the Old Testament which is seen in the law of Moses from Friday night until Saturday - then these Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God.
( oddly enough - they break the very law that they try to put others back under by not stoning those people that don't keep the Sabbath as outlined in the law. - go figure eh? .......)
The post is "code" for us Christians not following the law of Moses which has the 10 commandments in it which to them is the "Keep the Sabbath" commandment in it.
This is a Judaizing spirit which is perverting the gospel of the grace of God in Christ.
People are free in Christ to observe any day or festivals as they wish as they are mere shadows of the real thing which is Christ Himself.
Colossians 2:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—
[SUP]17 [/SUP] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
To those that wish to observe the Sabbath as in from Friday night to Saturday that know that Christ alone is the real Sabbath rest and that the Old Covenant way of observing it is a type or shadow of the real thing which is Christ Himself - to those - I say "happy Sabbath".
To those that are seduced and deceived by the Judaizing spirit that say Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God if they don't follow the Old Covenant way of observing the Sabbath - to those I boldly proclaim Christ so that the truth of the gospel would remain with the saints just like Paul said to the Galatians.
Galatians 2:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.
( oddly enough - they break the very law that they try to put others back under by not stoning those people that don't keep the Sabbath as outlined in the law. - go figure eh? ....
...)The post is "code" for us Christians not following the law of Moses which has the 10 commandments in it which to them is the "Keep the Sabbath" commandment in it.
This is a Judaizing spirit which is perverting the gospel of the grace of God in Christ.
People are free in Christ to observe any day or festivals as they wish as they are mere shadows of the real thing which is Christ Himself.
Colossians 2:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—
[SUP]17 [/SUP] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
To those that wish to observe the Sabbath as in from Friday night to Saturday that know that Christ alone is the real Sabbath rest and that the Old Covenant way of observing it is a type or shadow of the real thing which is Christ Himself - to those - I say "happy Sabbath".
To those that are seduced and deceived by the Judaizing spirit that say Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God if they don't follow the Old Covenant way of observing the Sabbath - to those I boldly proclaim Christ so that the truth of the gospel would remain with the saints just like Paul said to the Galatians.
Galatians 2:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.
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What the poster in post #330 is saying ( as can be seen by going to the Sabbath thread ) is that if Christians do not follow the Sabbath as outlined in the Old Testament which is seen in the law of Moses from Friday night until Saturday - then these Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God.
( oddly enough - they break the very law that they try to put others back under by not stoning those people that don't keep the Sabbath as outlined in the law. - go figure eh? .......)
The post is "code" for us Christians not following the law of Moses which has the 10 commandments in it which to them is the "Keep the Sabbath" commandment in it.
This is a Judaizing spirit which is perverting the gospel of the grace of God in Christ.
People are free in Christ to observe any day or festivals as they wish as they are mere shadows of the real thing which is Christ Himself.
Colossians 2:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—
[SUP]17 [/SUP] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
To those that wish to observe the Sabbath as in from Friday night to Saturday that know that Christ alone is the real Sabbath rest and that the Old Covenant way of observing it is a type or shadow of the real thing which is Christ Himself - to those - I say "happy Sabbath".
To those that are seduced and deceived by the Judaizing spirit that say Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God if they don't follow the Old Covenant way of observing the Sabbath - to those I boldly proclaim Christ so that the truth of the gospel would remain with the saints just like Paul said to the Galatians.
Galatians 2:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.
( oddly enough - they break the very law that they try to put others back under by not stoning those people that don't keep the Sabbath as outlined in the law. - go figure eh? ....
...)The post is "code" for us Christians not following the law of Moses which has the 10 commandments in it which to them is the "Keep the Sabbath" commandment in it.
This is a Judaizing spirit which is perverting the gospel of the grace of God in Christ.
People are free in Christ to observe any day or festivals as they wish as they are mere shadows of the real thing which is Christ Himself.
Colossians 2:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—
[SUP]17 [/SUP] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
To those that wish to observe the Sabbath as in from Friday night to Saturday that know that Christ alone is the real Sabbath rest and that the Old Covenant way of observing it is a type or shadow of the real thing which is Christ Himself - to those - I say "happy Sabbath".
To those that are seduced and deceived by the Judaizing spirit that say Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God if they don't follow the Old Covenant way of observing the Sabbath - to those I boldly proclaim Christ so that the truth of the gospel would remain with the saints just like Paul said to the Galatians.
Galatians 2:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.
To mix faith and law keeping or works to get, keep, maintain salvation falls short of the gospel (correct message of salvation) it is double cursed and has no power......
JESUS ratified the NEW Covenant by his death....the covenant of grace and mercy dia faith!
Yes, Amen, at His death the New Covenant was envoked, He taught under the Old Covenant, and so taught the law.
It was after all the tutor that would lead us to Him and the New Covenant He established.
The Prophets were pretty clear as to who would establish, and what would be established.
If one does not live under the freedom of the New Covenant one should feel free to go and try to successfully live under the bondage of the Old, where sin, death and ultimately failure lies.
One will fail in ones own attempts to attain righteousness. And then I hope they come to the Grace and Mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ.
It was after all the tutor that would lead us to Him and the New Covenant He established.
The Prophets were pretty clear as to who would establish, and what would be established.
If one does not live under the freedom of the New Covenant one should feel free to go and try to successfully live under the bondage of the Old, where sin, death and ultimately failure lies.
One will fail in ones own attempts to attain righteousness. And then I hope they come to the Grace and Mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ.
What the poster in post #330 is saying ( as can be seen by going to the Sabbath thread ) is that if Christians do not follow the Sabbath as outlined in the Old Testament which is seen in the law of Moses from Friday night until Saturday - then these Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God.
( oddly enough - they break the very law that they try to put others back under by not stoning those people that don't keep the Sabbath as outlined in the law. - go figure eh? .......)
The post is "code" for us Christians not following the law of Moses which has the 10 commandments in it which to them is the "Keep the Sabbath" commandment in it.
This is a Judaizing spirit which is perverting the gospel of the grace of God in Christ.
People are free in Christ to observe any day or festivals as they wish as they are mere shadows of the real thing which is Christ Himself.
Colossians 2:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—
[SUP]17 [/SUP] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
To those that wish to observe the Sabbath as in from Friday night to Saturday that know that Christ alone is the real Sabbath rest and that the Old Covenant way of observing it is a type or shadow of the real thing which is Christ Himself - to those - I say "happy Sabbath".
To those that are seduced and deceived by the Judaizing spirit that say Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God if they don't follow the Old Covenant way of observing the Sabbath - to those I boldly proclaim Christ so that the truth of the gospel would remain with the saints just like Paul said to the Galatians.
Galatians 2:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.
( oddly enough - they break the very law that they try to put others back under by not stoning those people that don't keep the Sabbath as outlined in the law. - go figure eh? ....
...)The post is "code" for us Christians not following the law of Moses which has the 10 commandments in it which to them is the "Keep the Sabbath" commandment in it.
This is a Judaizing spirit which is perverting the gospel of the grace of God in Christ.
People are free in Christ to observe any day or festivals as they wish as they are mere shadows of the real thing which is Christ Himself.
Colossians 2:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—
[SUP]17 [/SUP] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
To those that wish to observe the Sabbath as in from Friday night to Saturday that know that Christ alone is the real Sabbath rest and that the Old Covenant way of observing it is a type or shadow of the real thing which is Christ Himself - to those - I say "happy Sabbath".
To those that are seduced and deceived by the Judaizing spirit that say Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God if they don't follow the Old Covenant way of observing the Sabbath - to those I boldly proclaim Christ so that the truth of the gospel would remain with the saints just like Paul said to the Galatians.
Galatians 2:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.
What the poster of message 331 is saying is that he is offended by God's Word shared in post 330 because he feel that the message applies to what he is trying to teach.
What is the meaning of Colosians 2 (God's Word below for those interested)?
Colossians 2 (1)
Colossians 2 (2)
Colossians 2 (a must read God's Word)
What is the difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (God's Word) ?
The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (1)
The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (2)
1John 3, 3, And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
1John 3, 4, Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1John 3, 5, And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1John 3, 6, Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him.
1John 3, 7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1John 3, 8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1John 3, 9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1John 3, 10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
1John 5, 2, By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
My wish is for everyone here to find and know Jesus through His Word. God's Sheep hear His Voice...
God bless you all.
The 10 commandments are a part of the law of Moses. Paul himself spoke of this. Unless "coveting" got kicked out of the 10 commandments because it was caught "coveting". Selah.
People want to "separate" out the 10 commandments from the rest of the Law to get us to follow their Sabbath day as outlined in the Old Covenant. But Paul said "cursed is everyone that doesn't do all that is commandment in the law".
Romans 7:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET."
The 10 commandments were called the ministry of condemnation and of death by Paul. We can trust the life of Christ in us to live godly in this world.
The grace of God "teaches" now in the New Covenant how to deny ungodliness and to live sensibly, righteous and godly in this present age - NOT the law of Moses. Titus 2:11-12
The 10 commandments are called the "letter that kills" and the "ministry of death" - The New Covenant is called the "ministry of the Spirit" that brings Life.
The 10 commandments were called "the ministry of condemnation" - the New Covenant is called "the ministry of righteousness." This is Christ's righteousness given to us that believe.
2 Corinthians 3:6-9 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was,
[SUP]8 [/SUP] how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory?
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory.
The law of Moses including the 10 commandments are like an x-ray machine - they show up things that are wrong but the x-ray machine has no power to "fix it".
It just reveals what is wrong. It's the same here for Christ Himself and His life in our new hearts is the only thing that can "fix us" with a transformed live.
People want to "separate" out the 10 commandments from the rest of the Law to get us to follow their Sabbath day as outlined in the Old Covenant. But Paul said "cursed is everyone that doesn't do all that is commandment in the law".
Romans 7:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET."
The 10 commandments were called the ministry of condemnation and of death by Paul. We can trust the life of Christ in us to live godly in this world.
The grace of God "teaches" now in the New Covenant how to deny ungodliness and to live sensibly, righteous and godly in this present age - NOT the law of Moses. Titus 2:11-12
The 10 commandments are called the "letter that kills" and the "ministry of death" - The New Covenant is called the "ministry of the Spirit" that brings Life.
The 10 commandments were called "the ministry of condemnation" - the New Covenant is called "the ministry of righteousness." This is Christ's righteousness given to us that believe.
2 Corinthians 3:6-9 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was,
[SUP]8 [/SUP] how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory?
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory.
The law of Moses including the 10 commandments are like an x-ray machine - they show up things that are wrong but the x-ray machine has no power to "fix it".
It just reveals what is wrong. It's the same here for Christ Himself and His life in our new hearts is the only thing that can "fix us" with a transformed live.
Hey Grace777
I can see someone is lost for Words again and resorting to the same old cutting and pasting from the same old record
The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (1)
The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (2)
Suggest you read your bible for yourself and checkout the Word of God in the posts above.
I can see someone is lost for Words again and resorting to the same old cutting and pasting from the same old record
The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (1)
The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (2)
Suggest you read your bible for yourself and checkout the Word of God in the posts above.
Hey Grace777
I can see someone is lost for Words again and resorting to the same old cutting and pasting from the same old record
The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (1)
The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (2)
Suggest you read your bible for yourself and checkout the Word of God in the posts above.
I can see someone is lost for Words again and resorting to the same old cutting and pasting from the same old record
The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (1)
The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (2)
Suggest you read your bible for yourself and checkout the Word of God in the posts above.
But salvation is.
Eph 1:
13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14) Which is the earnest [guarantee] of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
A person is either saved or he isn't. If he is saved, then he is saved. If he's not, then he's not.
Christians do not work for salvation (a gift) but for rewards (earned by works).
Eph 1:
13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14) Which is the earnest [guarantee] of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
A person is either saved or he isn't. If he is saved, then he is saved. If he's not, then he's not.
Christians do not work for salvation (a gift) but for rewards (earned by works).