Assurance of salvation

[DiscipleA]

People go to hell why ? Because they refuse to believe the truth so as to be saved .

But why be tormented for eternity for a lack of understanding? We all lack understanding.

 

[DiscipleA]

oh good grief . READ WHAT I AM ACTUALLY SAYING . NOT WHAT I AM NOT SAYING .

I don't think what you were saying went through...??

You quoted me as saying "How can" ........ thats all

 

[Bbrdrd]

wow your doing the same as the other fellow. Didn't I just say ' how do PEOPLE end up in hell ?

So what was the point of stating it was made for the devil and fallen angels? The question is why do people end up there and such trivia has no bearing on that. So do you think God punishes people for kicks?

 

[DiscipleA]

So do you think God punishes people for kicks?

...Or torments people for eternity for kicks?

 

[throughfaith]

So what was the point of stating it was made for the devil and fallen angels? The question is why do people end up there and such trivia has no bearing on that. So do you think God punishes people for kicks?

Which verse please ? And the one where People are paying for their sins in hell ? There isn't any. like I said they cannot be as Jesus paid for the sins of the world. He died for the entire cosmos. But the atonement is not what saves . Regeneration saves. Punishment? an eternity in Hell is punishment. Why ? because they refused to believe the truth so as to BE SAVED .

 

[DiscipleA]

Which verse please ?

If only you mentioned the verse in the first place in your comment. Another reason to be more specific in your comments. Thanks! No harm done.

 

[throughfaith]

...Or torments people for eternity for kicks?

The torment is being in Hell . weeping and Gnashing of teeth .

 

[throughfaith]

The torment is being in Hell . weeping and Gnashing of teeth .

The being in Hell is the torment .Created not for man but FOR the devil and fallen angels.

 

[DiscipleA]

Hell was created for the devil and fallen angels.

Whatever verse you meant...unless your comment wasn't scriptual.....

 

[DiscipleA]

DO NOT STATE YOUR OPINION WITHOUT CITING A SCRIPTURE!!!

 

[DiscipleA]

The torment is being in Hell . weeping and Gnashing of teeth .

You're not keeping up with the conversation all the time.

 

[DiscipleA]

You're not keeping up with the conversation all the time.

...That's why we're going in circles all the time. Read back a page or two before you comment!

 

[Bbrdrd]

You're not keeping up with the conversation all the time.

Given some of his responses I suspect he may not be as he presents himself.

 

[DiscipleA]

Given some of his responses I suspect he may not be as he presents himself.

I still say he doesn't really know what he truly believes. He's trying to figure it out which isn't evil. Maybe he needs to be more humble about things.

 

[throughfaith]

You're not keeping up with the conversation all the time.

3 kids and working round the clock ain't easy lol

 

[pottersclay]

I believe God has reconciled the whole world and that sin is no longer the barrier to God anymore, for anyone. But the issue is that unless a person receives Jesus they will not be glorified. Without Glorification no one can be saved and go to heaven . The only other option is hell . Which was not created for man , but for the devil and fallen angels. God has provided the way that no one needs to go there .

I agree simple and to the point. Kudos

 

[DiscipleA]

3 kids and working round the clock ain't easy lol

You're forgiven!!! Hahaha. I still say you have potential! Have a Bible study with your kids at least once a week (make the time) and I think it would be good for all of you! I think you're on the right track. Shalom!!! (I'm not Jewish and don't speak Hebrew)