In love
It's my opinion and observation you don't teach the truth of scripture, a pre-trib rapture being just one to mention.
Tell me what you see differently in what I posted here (in this quote of my previous post):
How do you explain the "24 elders" saying (from their position up in Heaven, BEFORE the first Seal is opened), "hast redeemed US [G2248 - hemas] out of [ek] every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation"
Here's the Greek (for Rev5:9) showing at BlueLetterBible -
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rev/5/9/ss1/s_1172009 showing them saying
"us [G2248 - hemas]"... "hast redeemed US...".
In past posts, I provided the link to the following info on that verse (boiled down here):
--of the 24 [total] manuscripts (of the Greek) of Revelation chpt 5,
23 of them have it as
"US [G2248 - hemas]" and only ONE manuscript leaves it blank [/untranslated]. (That ONE manuscript [of 24 total manuscripts (Rev5)] that leaves it
blank/untranslated is the "Codex Alexandrinus".)
Either point out why you believe I am wrong, here, or...
explain why these "24 elders" are saying "hast redeemed
US out of [
ek] every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" (comp 1:5-6 where "US" is mentioned 3x, in a similar fashion),
and why they are wearing "
stephanos/crowns" (recall, Paul said he would be awarded one "IN THAT DAY" [not the day of his DEATH
]
and not to him only! Tell me, where did they GET THOSE?!),
and why they are sitting on "24 THRONES" (what is the PURPOSE of their sitting on "THRONES"?!),
and why "24" ? (could it be parallel to that which we find in the "24 courses" of priests, and the "24 courses of singers", here):
[quoting Wm Kelly on 1Chron25]
"
In 1 Chronicles 25 we have the service of song. "Moreover, David and the captains of the host separated to the service of the sons of Asaph, and of Heman, and of Jeduthun, who should prophesy with harps, with psalteries, and with cymbals." It is called "prophesying" because it so directly brought in God, which is the emphatic meaning of prophesying. "And the number of the workmen according to their service was" - so and so.
There were twenty-four courses of the singers. Now, this was another remarkable change. In the tabernacle, song was not the characteristic feature, but sacrifice; but in the temple in the day of glory, the song of triumph is the new and suitable feature."
--William Kelly, 1 Chronicles 25 [see esp vv.1,6-7,31]
[note: v.1 "with harps [see Rev5], with psalteries ['earthen vessels'], and with cymbals"...hmmm...]
and I've posted before about the wording in
Hebrews 9:8-9a (and how it relates to this), "
8 By this the Holy Spirit was signifying
that the way into the holy places has
not yet been made manifest,
the first tabernacle [the one in the wilderness, per the "furnishings" in v.4] yet having A STANDING [ *stasis/stasin],
9 which
is a PARABLE for the present time [...]"
[
* "stasis/stasin" word RELATED TO the word in 2Th2:
3, under discussion earlier in this thread (
apo stasis)]