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The poster might have made several possible misleading and false accusations about what I posted.

Generally speaking, some respondents will terrifically misrepresent and add to your view with hardly a shred of accuracy in what they say - it's not right, but it's very common. If you wish to stay on as contributing member, you'll have to learn whether it's worth replying too or moving on from.
 
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Generally speaking, some respondents will terrifically misrepresent and add to your view with hardly a shred of accuracy in what they say - it's not right, but it's very common. If you wish to stay on as contributing member, you'll have to learn whether it's worth replying too or moving on from.
I am moving on and thank everyone for their replies. I will end this by saying this.

The censorship means nothing.
 

shrume

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Here's what happened:


Original post of beastslayer1970:



My response:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/160215-cessationism-8.html#post3346629

Note: KJB was changed to KJV. I also snipped the unnecessary comments at the ending of his post directed at innerfire89 implying him as being Scripturally illiterate, thus my <snip> as to not repost the derogation. I also made everyone fully aware that I made a change to the post, which was taking public responsibility and therefore was appropriately noted, thus "I fixed that..."
In this case that is what happened. You did not actually change any of the original poster's words (KJB excepted).

But you have directly changed a poster's words before to make it seem they said something they did not say. I know for a fact that you have done it to me, and I've seen you do it to others.

When you quote someone, it is meant to be a quote to remind people what you are responding to, not an opportunity for you to change what they said.
 

Angela53510

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Not sure why people can't let this go. Preacher4Truth did nothing that is against forum rules, and many members do this. Cutting out the lengthy part of the posts, or to reply to one part of a post.

I do agree that KJV is right, as it is a translation, and a version of the Bible. Even Biblegateway lists it as KJV. But in the end, not a huge difference. And since there are people on that thread who are cessationists, using the KJV, it looks like you can defend the topic from either side, using the KJV. Except of course, it falls on deaf ears with me, since I cannot get through a passage in KJV, without running into so many words I would need to look up to understand, and that is not worth my time, when there are so many modern versions that are so readable, and of course, the Greek and Hebrew texts.

As far as snipping, well, he made it clear what he was doing. He did not represent what the person said, because he said what he did, and the original post was right there to read.

Much ado about nothing! Oh wait! Me quoting Shakespeare? And what does "ado" really mean?" LOL
 
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Don't pay attention to defilers, just ignore them. The spirit of anger intends for one thing, to put it in others. I pray such people can be free from it, so they don't inadvertently affect others. And in complete ignorance of it, turn comments back on the people who wrote them, often with a public distortion of it to gather jokes and support, while never seeing their own doings from deep down which they know not that they do.

We are free from sin when we don't engage with it, however, it is more challenging to see when someone is sinning in their intention and words. When we engage with them we are being drawn in. If anyone afflicted might return to the light I will gladly see them in a new light, but some people choose not to. If that isn't sin, then what else do these people grant themselves in self-justification?
 

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Not sure why people can't let this go. Preacher4Truth did nothing that is against forum rules, and many members do this. Cutting out the lengthy part of the posts, or to reply to one part of a post.

I do agree that KJV is right, as it is a translation, and a version of the Bible. Even Biblegateway lists it as KJV. But in the end, not a huge difference. And since there are people on that thread who are cessationists, using the KJV, it looks like you can defend the topic from either side, using the KJV. Except of course, it falls on deaf ears with me, since I cannot get through a passage in KJV, without running into so many words I would need to look up to understand, and that is not worth my time, when there are so many modern versions that are so readable, and of course, the Greek and Hebrew texts.

As far as snipping, well, he made it clear what he was doing. He did not represent what the person said, because he said what he did, and the original post was right there to read.

Much ado about nothing! Oh wait! Me quoting Shakespeare? And what does "ado" really mean?" LOL
Latin for drain the swamp? Or don't feed the alligators.

Just the usual drama here on the forums.

For the cause of Christ
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I am moving on and thank everyone for their replies. I will end this by saying this.

The censorship means nothing.
Hmm, you seem to be only concern when someone has done you wrong,

that is coming from a spiritual child, serves you right.
 

shrume

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Not sure why people can't let this go. Preacher4Truth did nothing that is against forum rules, and many members do this. Cutting out the lengthy part of the posts, or to reply to one part of a post.
It's fine to do that. What is not fine is to CHANGE what a poster said within their quoted text making it contradictory to what they actually said.

While p4t did not do it this time, he has done so in the past.
 

Angela53510

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It's fine to do that. What is not fine is to CHANGE what a poster said within their quoted text making it contradictory to what they actually said.

While p4t did not do it this time, he has done so in the past.

Sorry, let me add, "making a joke with it!" Humourless people! Really! If you can't take a joke about yourself, time to go back to God, and let him help you grow to a point where you get the joke, and can laugh at it too! Especially when he was only joking about words, not cutting the person down.

Where did all the senses of humour go, anyway?
 
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Humor or not, this should not be allowed :(...That surely is violation to the posters personal space...If it has been noted before, then surely a sticky note should be posted in the rules about it, how awful that this has happened...xox...
Humorously it's fine. I've seen admins do it themselves, just to be funny.




Really no need to create a thread about it being done maliciously. Just report the post in question.
Threads like this are pure drama and have nothing constructive or of value. That's why report buttons exist. So people don't have to make drama threads.
 
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while p4t did not do it this time, he has done so in the past.
The above has never taken place unless it was done with one of my friends on here, and they knew I was having fun with them in doing so. :D
 

shrume

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Sorry, let me add, "making a joke with it!" Humourless people! Really! If you can't take a joke about yourself, time to go back to God, and let him help you grow to a point where you get the joke, and can laugh at it too! Especially when he was only joking about words, not cutting the person down.

Where did all the senses of humour go, anyway?
You might disagree, but I think I have a pretty decent sense of humor. :)

Your perception on p4t's intent is different than mine. He is quite insulting and belittling to people who disagree with him.

Sense of humor or not, when you quote someone, you should quote them.

Carry on.
 

shrume

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The above has never taken place unless it was done with one of my friends on here, and they knew I was having fun with them in doing so. :D
I did not realize you considered me your friend.

Good to know!
 

maxwel

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Not sure why people can't let this go. Preacher4Truth did nothing that is against forum rules, and many members do this. Cutting out the lengthy part of the posts, or to reply to one part of a post.

I do agree that KJV is right, as it is a translation, and a version of the Bible. Even Biblegateway lists it as KJV. But in the end, not a huge difference. And since there are people on that thread who are cessationists, using the KJV, it looks like you can defend the topic from either side, using the KJV. Except of course, it falls on deaf ears with me, since I cannot get through a passage in KJV, without running into so many words I would need to look up to understand, and that is not worth my time, when there are so many modern versions that are so readable, and of course, the Greek and Hebrew texts.

As far as snipping, well, he made it clear what he was doing. He did not represent what the person said, because he said what he did, and the original post was right there to read.

Much ado about nothing! Oh wait! Me quoting Shakespeare? And what does "ado" really mean?" LOL


When I use "reply with quote" I often edit the quote for brevity.
I don't replace any words with different words, but I often just cut things down for brevity.

This shouldn't be a problem unless the edit is intentionally done to change the meaning.


If we're going to get into a debate, we should expect people to nitpick our words.



What generally happens is people quote us CORRECTLY, but then when they go on to editorialize, they MISINTERPRET what we MEANT.
That isn't a rule violation, that's just poor debating...
and irritating.
: )
 
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Here's what happened:


Original post of beastslayer1970:



My response:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/160215-cessationism-8.html#post3346629

Note: KJB was changed to KJV. I also snipped the unnecessary comments at the ending of his post directed at innerfire89 implying him as being Scripturally illiterate, thus my <snip> as to not repost the derogation. I also made everyone fully aware that I made a change to the post, which was taking public responsibility and therefore was appropriately noted, thus "I fixed that..."
I guess I don't see the issue with this that would cause angst. Nothing wrong with what P4T did, imho. He even said in his post that he changed (fixed) it. :shrug:
 
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When I use "reply with quote" I often edit the quote for brevity.
I don't replace any words with different words, but I often just cut things down for brevity.

This shouldn't be a problem unless the edit is intentionally done to change the meaning.


If we're going to get into a debate, we should expect people to nitpick our words.



What generally happens is people quote us CORRECTLY, but then when they go on to editorialize, they MISINTERPRET what we MEANT.
That isn't a rule violation, that's just poor debating...
and irritating.
: )

And is the cause of most of the infighting in CC/
 
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