"Basic Distinctions Between Prophecy And Mystery"?

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Grace And Peace, Precious friends. The following may or may not be helpful.
However, thanks for your Consideration, and, Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed in:

Basic {and more} Distinctions of Prophecy vs Mystery:

First, Some Similarities: The LORD JESUS CHRIST, love of HIM, And
love of our neighbor!

LORD JESUS, please Grant us all Your Divine Help in our understanding of:
Things That Differ!

{ RDf = Rightly Divided from }:

God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom (past/future)

(1) Concerns a kingdom: a political organization
(Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:10 KJB!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From Things That DIFFER!:

God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
(Current = “But NOW!”
Romans 3:21, 7:6, 16: 26; Ephesians 2:13 et al KJB!):

(1) Concerns A Body, HIS Church; a Living Organism
(
1 Corinthians 12:12, 27; Ephesians 4:12-16 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(2) The kingdom to be established on earth
(Jeremiah 23:5; Matthew 6:10!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(2) The Body {Church} Given a position in Heaven!
(
Ephesians 1:3, 2:5-6; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(3) Christ to be its King (Jeremiah 23:5; Isaiah 9:6-7 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(3) CHRIST Is The Living Head Of HIS Body, The Church!
(
Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(4) The kingdom prophesied “since the world began”
(Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(4) The Body Chosen In CHRIST "before the world
began," But “kept secret since the world began!”
(
Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(5) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations
(Isaiah 60:10-12, 61:6 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(5) Jew and Gentile placed on the same level before God!
(
Romans 10:12, 11:32; Ephesians 2:16-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(6)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s instrumentality
(Genesis 22:17-18; Zechariah 8:13 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(6) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s obstinancy!
(
Acts 13:44-46, Romans 11:28-32 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(7) The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s rise
(Isaiah 60:1-3; Zechariah 8:22-23 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(7) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s fall!
(
Acts 28:27-28; Romans 11:11, 12, 15 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such
(Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(8) The Mystery Concerns individuals!
(
Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth
(Isaiah 2:3-4, 11:1-9!; et al KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(9) The Mystery Concerns “all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies”
(
Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(10) Prophecy concerns Christ’s Coming To the earth
(
Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(10) The Mystery Explains CHRIST’s Absence From the earth!
(
Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy: gospel of The Kingdom!:
(11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is Not contemplated
(Matthew 28:19-20, 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery: *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!!:*
(11) Salvation “By GRACE Through faith” Alone lies at The Very
Heart
Of The Mystery! (Romans 3:21-26, 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB!) ◄


Prophecy:
(12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly
to the TWELVE (Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8, 3:19-26 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly
to ONE: Paul! (Ephesians 3:1-3, 8-9; Colossians 1:24-27 KJB!)


Prophecy:
(13) The prophetic program revealed through Many of God’s servants
(Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(13) The Mystery Revealed Through ONE man: Paul!
(Galatians 1:1, 11-12, 2:2, 7, 9; Ephesians 3:2-3 KJB!)


Prophecy:
(14) Old Testament writers frequently did not
understand the prophecies made through them!
(
Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might
understand The Mystery CHRIST Revealed Through him!
(Ephesians 1:15-23, 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10, 2:1-3 KJB!)


--------------------------------------------

Be RICHLY Blessed!

Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery! (C.R. Stam)

----------------------------------------------------

I have further compiled More Distinctions In God's TWO Different Programs!:

Prophecy/Law:
(15) The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 KJB!)

+

B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out
By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(15) Only ONE
Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST!!
(
Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27; Romans 6:3-4;
1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(16) Forgive others FIRST, THEN God Will Forgive!
(Matthew 6:14-15, 18:35; Mark 11:25-26; Luke 6:37 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(16) Forgive others BECAUSE CHRIST Has Already FORGIVEN us!
(
Ephesians 4:32 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(17) Taught how/what to pray! (Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!"
(
Philippians 4:6 KJB!) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

(17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought,"
But "The Spirit Intercedeth FOR us, According To The Will Of God!..."
(
Romans 8:26 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law { earthly! }:
18) "watchmen," { as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth! }, looking for
The "wicked one, the deceiving man of SIN" And "signs" (Matthew 24 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE { Heavenly! }!:
(18) ambassadors { As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven! }
LOOKING, WATCHING, And WAITING For! = The Holy One,
The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven! }
(
Romans 8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18;
Philippians 3:20; Colossians 3:2, 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:5-11;
2 Thessalonians 3:5; Titus 2:13 KJB! )
-----------------------------------------------------
probably more… But, sorry, for all the views of prophecy/Mystery =
only ONE gospel, and, Peter and Paul “preached” The SAME thing?:

Conclusion:

“things that are Different are just Not The SAME,” correct?
-----------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You For All Your Divine Help
in our understanding of Things That Differ!
-----------------------------------------------


Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!”
(
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)
 
Jan 12, 2019
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113
#6
Grace And Peace, Precious friends. The following may or may not be helpful.
However, thanks for your Consideration, and, Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed in:

Basic {and more} Distinctions of Prophecy vs Mystery:

First, Some Similarities: The LORD JESUS CHRIST, love of HIM, And
love of our neighbor!

LORD JESUS, please Grant us all Your Divine Help in our understanding of:
Things That Differ!


{ RDf = Rightly Divided from }:

God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom (past/future)

(1) Concerns a kingdom: a political organization
(Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:10 KJB!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From Things That DIFFER!:

God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
(Current = “But NOW!”
Romans 3:21, 7:6, 16: 26; Ephesians 2:13 et al KJB!):

(1) Concerns A Body, HIS Church; a Living Organism
(
1 Corinthians 12:12, 27; Ephesians 4:12-16 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(2) The kingdom to be established on earth
(Jeremiah 23:5; Matthew 6:10!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(2) The Body {Church} Given a position in Heaven!
(
Ephesians 1:3, 2:5-6; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(3) Christ to be its King (Jeremiah 23:5; Isaiah 9:6-7 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(3) CHRIST Is The Living Head Of HIS Body, The Church!
(
Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(4) The kingdom prophesied “since the world began”
(Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(4) The Body Chosen In CHRIST "before the world
began," But “kept secret since the world began!”
(
Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(5) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations
(Isaiah 60:10-12, 61:6 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(5) Jew and Gentile placed on the same level before God!
(
Romans 10:12, 11:32; Ephesians 2:16-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(6)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s instrumentality
(Genesis 22:17-18; Zechariah 8:13 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(6) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s obstinancy!
(
Acts 13:44-46, Romans 11:28-32 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(7) The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s rise
(Isaiah 60:1-3; Zechariah 8:22-23 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(7) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s fall!
(
Acts 28:27-28; Romans 11:11, 12, 15 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such
(Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(8) The Mystery Concerns individuals!
(
Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth
(Isaiah 2:3-4, 11:1-9!; et al KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(9) The Mystery Concerns “all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies”
(
Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(10) Prophecy concerns Christ’s Coming To the earth
(
Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(10) The Mystery Explains CHRIST’s Absence From the earth!
(
Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy: gospel of The Kingdom!:
(11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is Not contemplated
(Matthew 28:19-20, 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery: *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!!:*
(11) Salvation “By GRACE Through faith” Alone lies at The Very
Heart
Of The Mystery! (Romans 3:21-26, 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB!) ◄


Prophecy:
(12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly
to the TWELVE (Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8, 3:19-26 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly
to ONE: Paul! (Ephesians 3:1-3, 8-9; Colossians 1:24-27 KJB!)


Prophecy:
(13) The prophetic program revealed through Many of God’s servants
(Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(13) The Mystery Revealed Through ONE man: Paul!
(Galatians 1:1, 11-12, 2:2, 7, 9; Ephesians 3:2-3 KJB!)


Prophecy:
(14) Old Testament writers frequently did not
understand the prophecies made through them!
(
Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might
understand The Mystery CHRIST Revealed Through him!
(Ephesians 1:15-23, 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10, 2:1-3 KJB!)


--------------------------------------------

Be RICHLY Blessed!

Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery! (C.R. Stam)

----------------------------------------------------

I have further compiled More Distinctions In God's TWO Different Programs!:

Prophecy/Law:
(15) The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 KJB!)

+

B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out
By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(15) Only ONE
Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST!!
(
Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27; Romans 6:3-4;
1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(16) Forgive others FIRST, THEN God Will Forgive!
(Matthew 6:14-15, 18:35; Mark 11:25-26; Luke 6:37 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(16) Forgive others BECAUSE CHRIST Has Already FORGIVEN us!
(
Ephesians 4:32 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(17) Taught how/what to pray! (Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!"
(
Philippians 4:6 KJB!) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

(17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought,"
But "The Spirit Intercedeth FOR us, According To The Will Of God!..."
(
Romans 8:26 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law { earthly! }:
18) "watchmen," { as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth! }, looking for
The "wicked one, the deceiving man of SIN" And "signs" (Matthew 24 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE { Heavenly! }!:
(18) ambassadors { As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven! }
LOOKING, WATCHING, And WAITING For! = The Holy One,
The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven! }
(
Romans 8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18;
Philippians 3:20; Colossians 3:2, 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:5-11;
2 Thessalonians 3:5; Titus 2:13 KJB! )
-----------------------------------------------------
probably more… But, sorry, for all the views of prophecy/Mystery =
only ONE gospel, and, Peter and Paul “preached” The SAME thing?:

Conclusion:

“things that are Different are just Not The SAME,” correct?
-----------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You For All Your Divine Help
in our understanding of Things That Differ!
-----------------------------------------------


Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!”
(
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)
I see you have probably read chapter 2 of Cornelius R Stam book, "Things that differ"?
 

GRACE_ambassador

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Feb 22, 2021
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#7
I see you have probably read chapter 2 of Cornelius R Stam book, "Things that differ"?
Yes, his "Baptism and The Bible" {poison book I "borrowed" for my baptist pastor} got me out of baptist "tradition" and, then "Things That Differ" got me correctly started on my 30-year Rightly Divided journey. Praise God for the previous warriors in "The Controversy," {another of his enlightening journals.} I pray I can "plant a few seeds"...

How about you?
 
Jan 12, 2019
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#9
Yes, his "Baptism and The Bible" {poison book I "borrowed" for my baptist pastor} got me out of baptist "tradition" and, then "Things That Differ" got me correctly started on my 30-year Rightly Divided journey. Praise God for the previous warriors in "The Controversy," {another of his enlightening journals.} I pray I can "plant a few seeds"...

How about you?
Yes, along with Les Feldick, who is more of a TV minister, CR Stam's books have really changed the way I was taught how to interpret Scripture.
 

GRACE_ambassador

Well-known member
Feb 22, 2021
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#11
UPDATE {the First 18 are here - Distinctions }:

Prophecy/Law { earthly! }:
(19) "Sell everything/follow Jesus" = Commanded in Matthew_19 : 21,
Mark_10 : 21, and Luke_12 : 33, 18 : 22! The Twelve and Jewish
believers obeyed, In Acts_2 : 44-45 and 4 : 32!!

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!) From Things That DIFFER!:

Mystery/GRACE { Heavenly! }!:
(19)
"...Work with your hands, to provide for your own/give to those in need..."

(Acts 20 : 35; Romans 12 : 11; 1 Corinthians 4 : 12; Ephesians 4 : 28;
2 Corinthians 12 : 14; 1 Thessalonians 4 : 11-12; 2 Thessalonians 3 : 7-12;
1 Timothy 5 : 8 KJB!)

Same {as before} Conclusion:

“things that are Different are just Not The SAME,” correct?
-----------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You For All Your Divine Help
in our understanding of Things That Differ!
-----------------------------------------------


Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!”
(
2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!)
 
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#12
I cannot understand your message. I got a warning not to use other people's blogs, but I can prove that they are my own and not others.

Also, my last copy did not promote another blog, or mine, as I never gave any other blog addresses. I first removed every single address of mine, so that my blog address did not appear in my message.

There was one very short email, where I may have accidentally gave my email address. I tried to remove the email address, from that message, by changing and deleting it, but I couldn't find a way to remove my old message.

Surely, that safety to you, should be okay now?
 

GRACE_ambassador

Well-known member
Feb 22, 2021
2,594
1,160
113
Midwest
#13
I cannot understand your message. I got a warning not to use other people's blogs, but I can prove that they are my own and not others.

Also, my last copy did not promote another blog, or mine, as I never gave any other blog addresses. I first removed every single address of mine, so that my blog address did not appear in my message.

There was one very short email, where I may have accidentally gave my email address. I tried to remove the email address, from that message, by changing and deleting it, but I couldn't find a way to remove my old message.

Surely, that safety to you, should be okay now?
Precious friend, I am truly Sorry that you Misunderstand my message.
You do not have "to prove any safety to me."

In all kindness, the Title of this Bible Discussion Forum thread is:

"Basic Distinctions Between Prophecy And Mystery"?

And you are welcome to participate with Relevant questions about this
"topic." However, IF you persist in:

"going OFF - topic with what you want to post that IS NOT Relevant,"

you will "be reported yet Again" and probably be Banned by the "moderators" of Christian Chat.

As previously stated you may "start your own thread" with your material.
Pick the "appropriate" Forum and click on the following at the "top of
the page," on the right-hand side: Post thread

I hope you now understand. God Bless!
 

Oncefallen

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#14
I cannot understand your message. I got a warning not to use other people's blogs, but I can prove that they are my own and not others.

Also, my last copy did not promote another blog, or mine, as I never gave any other blog addresses. I first removed every single address of mine, so that my blog address did not appear in my message.

There was one very short email, where I may have accidentally gave my email address. I tried to remove the email address, from that message, by changing and deleting it, but I couldn't find a way to remove my old message.

Surely, that safety to you, should be okay now?

You were warned to not hijack other people's threads to advertise/promote your own blog since several of your posts (long since removed) referenced your personal blog on wordpress