Great GRACE {MYSTERY} Departure @ the 2nd coming {prophecy}?
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Depends on how you mean that ^ , coz what you put could be "understood" in two distinct ways (and only ONE is CORRECT 
):
--[both will be] "caught up together" [caught up AT THE SAME TIME] TO the meeting of the Lord in the air;
[or]
--[we which are ALIVE will be] "caught up" TO WHERE the DEAD in Christ will ALREADY BE LOCATED (they, having ALREADY been "caught up" SEPARATELY/at a DISTINCT point-in-time), we will MEET THEM THERE in the air, WHERE THEY WILL ALREADY BE...
This latter one is an INCORRECT IDEA that is NOT being conveyed by the text.
____________
And that matters, BECAUSE of what I've pointed out about v.14's "UNIONed-with" word [G4862]... and its NOT MAKING THE POINT that "the dead in Christ" are coming with Him IN THEIR SPIRITS to be reunited with their [now-glorified] BODIES... NOT PAUL'S POINT, here in v.14.
NO.
"...and SO [/THUS / IN THIS MANNER] shall we ever be WITH [UNIONed-with] the Lord" (which is the effect of the "CAUGHT UP TOGETHER" action).
):--[both will be] "caught up together" [caught up AT THE SAME TIME] TO the meeting of the Lord in the air;
[or]
--[we which are ALIVE will be] "caught up" TO WHERE the DEAD in Christ will ALREADY BE LOCATED (they, having ALREADY been "caught up" SEPARATELY/at a DISTINCT point-in-time), we will MEET THEM THERE in the air, WHERE THEY WILL ALREADY BE...
This latter one is an INCORRECT IDEA that is NOT being conveyed by the text.
____________
And that matters, BECAUSE of what I've pointed out about v.14's "UNIONed-with" word [G4862]... and its NOT MAKING THE POINT that "the dead in Christ" are coming with Him IN THEIR SPIRITS to be reunited with their [now-glorified] BODIES... NOT PAUL'S POINT, here in v.14.
NO.
"...and SO [/THUS / IN THIS MANNER] shall we ever be WITH [UNIONed-with] the Lord" (which is the effect of the "CAUGHT UP TOGETHER" action).
Depends on how you mean that ^ , coz what you put could be "understood" in two distinct ways (and only ONE is CORRECT ):
--[both will be] "caught up together" [caught up AT THE SAME TIME] TO the meeting of the Lord in the air;
[or]
--[we which are ALIVE will be] "caught up" TO WHERE the DEAD in Christ will ALREADY BE LOCATED (they, having ALREADY been "caught up" SEPARATELY/at a DISTINCT point-in-time), we will MEET THEM THERE in the air, WHERE THEY WILL ALREADY BE...
This latter one is an INCORRECT IDEA that is NOT being conveyed by the text.
____________
And that matters, BECAUSE of what I've pointed out about v.14's "UNIONed-with" word [G4862]... and its NOT MAKING THE POINT that "the dead in Christ" are coming with Him IN THEIR SPIRITS to be reunited with their [now-glorified] BODIES... NOT PAUL'S POINT, here in v.14.
NO.
"...and SO [/THUS / IN THIS MANNER] shall we ever be WITH [UNIONed-with] the Lord" (which is the effect of the "CAUGHT UP TOGETHER" action).
):--[both will be] "caught up together" [caught up AT THE SAME TIME] TO the meeting of the Lord in the air;
[or]
--[we which are ALIVE will be] "caught up" TO WHERE the DEAD in Christ will ALREADY BE LOCATED (they, having ALREADY been "caught up" SEPARATELY/at a DISTINCT point-in-time), we will MEET THEM THERE in the air, WHERE THEY WILL ALREADY BE...
This latter one is an INCORRECT IDEA that is NOT being conveyed by the text.
____________
And that matters, BECAUSE of what I've pointed out about v.14's "UNIONed-with" word [G4862]... and its NOT MAKING THE POINT that "the dead in Christ" are coming with Him IN THEIR SPIRITS to be reunited with their [now-glorified] BODIES... NOT PAUL'S POINT, here in v.14.
NO.
"...and SO [/THUS / IN THIS MANNER] shall we ever be WITH [UNIONed-with] the Lord" (which is the effect of the "CAUGHT UP TOGETHER" action).
So before they are even resurrected they are sleeping and God brings them with Jesus when He's in the air. Sound about right?
Afterwards, those who are sleeping, who God brings, will rise first.
Next, those who are alive and remain, along with those who are risen, will meet the Lord in the air together at the same time.
That's how I'm getting it. The original point in contest was that God brings "all" His saints with Him. Clearly the sleeping aren't all of the saints because that would exclude those who are alive on Earth.
Right off the bat you are disconnecting the second half of the verse from its first half, thus missing the import of that first half...
And by his saying "them also which sleep through Jesus," he's identifying who he's speaking about ("the DEAD IN Christ"... i.e. their loved ones [believers] who've died PRIOR TO the point in time [/event] they are concerning themselves regarding [i.e. what Paul is ADDRESSING])...
"ALSO... will God bring WITH [G4862 UNIONed-with] Him"... NOT MERELY the "still-ALIVE" ones of us (having been "raptured")!
But THOSE *ALSO* who have DIED prior to that!
And by his saying "them also which sleep through Jesus," he's identifying who he's speaking about ("the DEAD IN Christ"... i.e. their loved ones [believers] who've died PRIOR TO the point in time [/event] they are concerning themselves regarding [i.e. what Paul is ADDRESSING])...
"ALSO... will God bring WITH [G4862 UNIONed-with] Him"... NOT MERELY the "still-ALIVE" ones of us (having been "raptured")!
But THOSE *ALSO* who have DIED prior to that!
They will NOT be left out of the whole shebang, just because they've DIED beforehand!
(JUST LIKE Col3:4 ALSO speaks about! SAME "WITH [G4862 - UNIONed-with] Him" word... SAME point in time referenced, i.e. His MANIFESTATION, like in 2Th2:8b [distinct from v.1 ]... "SHALL SHEW / OPENLY MANIFEST" 1Tim6:15 [parallel Rev19:16], i.e. His "RETURN" to the earth)
(JUST LIKE Col3:4 ALSO speaks about!
SAME "WITH [G4862 - UNIONed-with] Him" word... SAME point in time referenced, i.e. His MANIFESTATION, like in 2Th2:8b [distinct from v.1 ]... "SHALL SHEW / OPENLY MANIFEST" 1Tim6:15 [parallel Rev19:16], i.e. His "RETURN" to the earth)
Right off the bat you are disconnecting the second half of the verse from its first half, thus missing the import of that first half...
And by his saying "them also which sleep through Jesus," he's identifying who he's speaking about ("the DEAD IN Christ"... i.e. their loved ones [believers] who've died PRIOR TO the point in time [/event] they are concerning themselves regarding [i.e. what Paul is ADDRESSING])...
"ALSO... will God bring WITH [G4862 UNIONed-with] Him"... NOT MERELY the "still-ALIVE" ones of us (having been "raptured")!
But THOSE *ALSO* who have DIED prior to that!
And by his saying "them also which sleep through Jesus," he's identifying who he's speaking about ("the DEAD IN Christ"... i.e. their loved ones [believers] who've died PRIOR TO the point in time [/event] they are concerning themselves regarding [i.e. what Paul is ADDRESSING])...
"ALSO... will God bring WITH [G4862 UNIONed-with] Him"... NOT MERELY the "still-ALIVE" ones of us (having been "raptured")!
But THOSE *ALSO* who have DIED prior to that!
^ IOW, the "CAUGHT UP TOGETHER" ("so [/ THUS / IN THIS MANNER] shall we be ever be WITH / UNIONed-with the Lord") is prerequisite to the MANIFESTATION point-in-time (as "ALREADY-WED" / *ALREADY* UNIONed-with [G4862])... which is when "God with bring WITH / UNIONed Him" THEM ALSO! (They'll NOT be left out of that just because they DIED prior to the "UNIONed-with" point in time, see! They will "rise first" IN ORDER to PARTICIPATE *ALSO*)
Scripture I believe supports your position.
Isa 26:
20 "Come my people, enter our chambers & shut the door behind you, "hide yourself until the indignation is past"
(MY NOTE: God's redeemed will enter our [bridal] chamber. And be hidden from God's coming indignation/wrath/judgement on unbelievers)
21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
(MY NOTE: The LORD cometh out of his place to punish the Christ rejecting/unbelievers of the earth for their iniquity/sins. The Lord cometh "NOT" to punish believers/church, their iniquity/sins were forgiven & nailed to His Cross. Peace, JJ
Isa 26:
20 "Come my people, enter our chambers & shut the door behind you, "hide yourself until the indignation is past"
(MY NOTE: God's redeemed will enter our [bridal] chamber. And be hidden from God's coming indignation/wrath/judgement on unbelievers)
21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
(MY NOTE: The LORD cometh out of his place to punish the Christ rejecting/unbelievers of the earth for their iniquity/sins. The Lord cometh "NOT" to punish believers/church, their iniquity/sins were forgiven & nailed to His Cross. Peace, JJ
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Updated version with armies leaving HEAVEN, and
an army, * arriving on earth!:
Part I
God’s PRE - TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, we beseech Thee Now For Thy Divine Understanding
In This Thy Most Important Doctrine For our Comfort And Consolation.
Amen. (1 Thessalonians 4:18)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time Of JACOB’s {Israel's} Trouble (TOJT), Ending With
The Second Coming, is found in God's Context:
God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom
(“ages” past/future) (Genesis-John; Hebrews-Revelation)
God’s “Earthly Kingdom” Purpose From “the foundation of the world”
(Matthew 25:34)
God's Purpose Prophesied “since the world began” (Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21!)
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
Great GRACE Departure!
Pre-TOJT Resurrection/Departure of The Body Of CHRIST,
Ending God’s Age Of GRACE, Is Found In:
God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
{ Current = “But NOW!” } (Romans through Philemon!)
God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose Before “the foundation of the world”
(Ephesians 1:4; 2 Timothy 1:9!)
God's Heavenly Purpose Kept Secret “since the world began”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9!)
-------------------
The Second Coming, According to Prophecy:
(1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His
Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords,
Is Coming From Heaven! (Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On
His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!),
His armies * on white horses! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * “All Of His holy angels,”
In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations…
(Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)
(5a) Angels “gather the tares First, And they are taken Out of the kingdom”
to be cast into the furnace of fire! (Matthew 24:30, 13:30, 40-43!)
(5b) Angels “gather the elect”... (Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27!)
(6)...for the “judgment of the Earthly Nations” By The Son of man, The King!
(Matthew 25:31-46!)
(7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous
then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels!
(Matthew 25:34-46!)
to be continued...
an army, * arriving on earth!:
Part I
God’s PRE - TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, we beseech Thee Now For Thy Divine Understanding
In This Thy Most Important Doctrine For our Comfort And Consolation.
Amen. (1 Thessalonians 4:18)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time Of JACOB’s {Israel's} Trouble (TOJT), Ending With
The Second Coming, is found in God's Context:
God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom
(“ages” past/future) (Genesis-John; Hebrews-Revelation)
God’s “Earthly Kingdom” Purpose From “the foundation of the world”
(Matthew 25:34)
God's Purpose Prophesied “since the world began” (Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21!)
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
Great GRACE Departure!
Pre-TOJT Resurrection/Departure of The Body Of CHRIST,
Ending God’s Age Of GRACE, Is Found In:
God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
{ Current = “But NOW!” } (Romans through Philemon!)
God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose Before “the foundation of the world”
(Ephesians 1:4; 2 Timothy 1:9!)
God's Heavenly Purpose Kept Secret “since the world began”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9!)
-------------------
The Second Coming, According to Prophecy:
(1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His
Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords,
Is Coming From Heaven! (Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On
His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!),
His armies * on white horses! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * “All Of His holy angels,”
In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations…
(Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)
(5a) Angels “gather the tares First, And they are taken Out of the kingdom”
to be cast into the furnace of fire! (Matthew 24:30, 13:30, 40-43!)
(5b) Angels “gather the elect”... (Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27!)
(6)...for the “judgment of the Earthly Nations” By The Son of man, The King!
(Matthew 25:31-46!)
(7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous
then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels!
(Matthew 25:34-46!)
to be continued...
God’s PRE - TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:
Part II
God's Prophetic Program, and second earthly coming
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!:
(1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!:
CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From
Heaven! (Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel,
And With The Trump of God! (1 Thessalonians 4:16!)
3) God (JESUS CHRIST) Will Bring With Him {those who Were With
Him In Heaven}, part Of His Own, those who are “asleep In JESUS!”
(2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13!)
(4) CHRIST Descends With One archangel, Will resurrect those
asleep {in 3)} First, and Then, we “which are alive and remain,” {which
Is A Mystery!}, will be changed/all “incorruptible, And Caught Up”
together to meet The LORD in the air, in the “twinkling of an eye!”
(1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53!)
(5) CHRIST “Gathers His Body” To Himself, to Take them To Heaven...
(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1-2;
Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18!)
6)...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body,
By The Head Himself!... (Romans 2:6, 16, 14:10-12;
1 Corinthians 3:8-15, 4:5, 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10;
Ephesians 6:8; Colossians 3:24-25!)
(7a) ...After Judgment, the GRACE assembly Is Then Presented as
A Glorious Church, To CHRIST Himself!... (Ephesians 5:27!)
(7b) ...And, Then CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and
unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father,
In Heaven, Where we Live * Forever And Ever! Amen!
(1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22;
1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2 KJB!)
* Note, The ONE army Of The Body Of CHRIST, Must "have been
assigned our Heavenly positions" for ruling and reigning! Amen?
---------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You so much for Your Precious BLOOD,
Gift Of Eternal Salvation, And for Your Blessed Hope of
Glorification When You Come To Finally Gather us Home! Amen.
---------------------------------------------------------
Please Be Very Richly Blessed, Encouraged, And Comforted! And:
Precious friend(s), see you In God's Great GloryLand!! ♫ 😇 ↑
Part II
God's Prophetic Program, and second earthly coming
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!:
(1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!:
CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From
Heaven! (Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel,
And With The Trump of God! (1 Thessalonians 4:16!)
3) God (JESUS CHRIST) Will Bring With Him {those who Were With
Him In Heaven}, part Of His Own, those who are “asleep In JESUS!”
(2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13!)
(4) CHRIST Descends With One archangel, Will resurrect those
asleep {in 3)} First, and Then, we “which are alive and remain,” {which
Is A Mystery!}, will be changed/all “incorruptible, And Caught Up”
together to meet The LORD in the air, in the “twinkling of an eye!”
(1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53!)
(5) CHRIST “Gathers His Body” To Himself, to Take them To Heaven...
(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1-2;
Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18!)
6)...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body,
By The Head Himself!... (Romans 2:6, 16, 14:10-12;
1 Corinthians 3:8-15, 4:5, 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10;
Ephesians 6:8; Colossians 3:24-25!)
(7a) ...After Judgment, the GRACE assembly Is Then Presented as
A Glorious Church, To CHRIST Himself!... (Ephesians 5:27!)
(7b) ...And, Then CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and
unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father,
In Heaven, Where we Live * Forever And Ever! Amen!
(1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22;
1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2 KJB!)
* Note, The ONE army Of The Body Of CHRIST, Must "have been
assigned our Heavenly positions" for ruling and reigning! Amen?
---------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You so much for Your Precious BLOOD,
Gift Of Eternal Salvation, And for Your Blessed Hope of
Glorification When You Come To Finally Gather us Home! Amen.
---------------------------------------------------------
Please Be Very Richly Blessed, Encouraged, And Comforted! And:
Precious friend(s), see you In God's Great GloryLand!! ♫ 😇 ↑
Precious friends, God Corrected me, and this is the:
Updated version with armies leaving HEAVEN, and
an army, * arriving on earth!:
Part I
God’s PRE - TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, we beseech Thee Now For Thy Divine Understanding
In This Thy Most Important Doctrine For our Comfort And Consolation.
Amen. (1 Thessalonians 4:18)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time Of JACOB’s {Israel's} Trouble (TOJT), Ending With
The Second Coming, is found in God's Context:
God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom
(“ages” past/future) (Genesis-John; Hebrews-Revelation)
God’s “Earthly Kingdom” Purpose From “the foundation of the world”
(Matthew 25:34)
God's Purpose Prophesied “since the world began” (Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21!)
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
Great GRACE Departure!
Pre-TOJT Resurrection/Departure of The Body Of CHRIST,
Ending God’s Age Of GRACE, Is Found In:
God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
{ Current = “But NOW!” } (Romans through Philemon!)
God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose Before “the foundation of the world”
(Ephesians 1:4; 2 Timothy 1:9!)
God's Heavenly Purpose Kept Secret “since the world began”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9!)
-------------------
The Second Coming, According to Prophecy:
(1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His
Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords,
Is Coming From Heaven! (Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On
His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!),
His armies * on white horses! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * “All Of His holy angels,”
In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations…
(Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)
(5) With Another trumpet (AFTER "the 7th angel trumpet in heaven), on
the earth, Angels Are SENT, By The KING, TO: “gather the elect”...
(Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27!)
(6)...for the “judgment of the Earthly Nations” By The Son of man, The King!
(Matthew 25:31-46!)
(7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous
then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels!
(Matthew 25:34-46!)
to be continued...
Updated version with armies leaving HEAVEN, and
an army, * arriving on earth!:
Part I
God’s PRE - TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, we beseech Thee Now For Thy Divine Understanding
In This Thy Most Important Doctrine For our Comfort And Consolation.
Amen. (1 Thessalonians 4:18)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time Of JACOB’s {Israel's} Trouble (TOJT), Ending With
The Second Coming, is found in God's Context:
God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom
(“ages” past/future) (Genesis-John; Hebrews-Revelation)
God’s “Earthly Kingdom” Purpose From “the foundation of the world”
(Matthew 25:34)
God's Purpose Prophesied “since the world began” (Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21!)
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
Great GRACE Departure!
Pre-TOJT Resurrection/Departure of The Body Of CHRIST,
Ending God’s Age Of GRACE, Is Found In:
God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
{ Current = “But NOW!” } (Romans through Philemon!)
God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose Before “the foundation of the world”
(Ephesians 1:4; 2 Timothy 1:9!)
God's Heavenly Purpose Kept Secret “since the world began”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9!)
-------------------
The Second Coming, According to Prophecy:
(1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His
Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords,
Is Coming From Heaven! (Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On
His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!),
His armies * on white horses! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * “All Of His holy angels,”
In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations…
(Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)
(5) With Another trumpet (AFTER "the 7th angel trumpet in heaven), on
the earth, Angels Are SENT, By The KING, TO: “gather the elect”...
(Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27!)
(6)...for the “judgment of the Earthly Nations” By The Son of man, The King!
(Matthew 25:31-46!)
(7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous
then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels!
(Matthew 25:34-46!)
to be continued...
God’s PRE - TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:
Part II
God's Prophetic Program, and second earthly coming
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!:
(1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!:
CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From
Heaven! (Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel,
And With The Trump of God! (1 Thessalonians 4:16!)
3) God (JESUS CHRIST) Will Bring With Him {those who Were With
Him In Heaven}, part Of His Own, those who are “asleep In JESUS!”
(2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13!)
(4) CHRIST Descends With One archangel, Will resurrect those
asleep {in 3)} First, and Then, we “which are alive and remain,” {which
Is A Mystery!}, will be changed/all “incorruptible, And Caught Up”
together to meet The LORD in the air, in the “twinkling of an eye!”
(1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53!)
(5) CHRIST “Gathers His Body” To Himself, to Take them To Heaven...
(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1-2;
Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18!)
6)...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body,
By The Head Himself!... (Romans 2:6, 16, 14:10-12;
1 Corinthians 3:8-15, 4:5, 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10;
Ephesians 6:8; Colossians 3:24-25!)
(7a) ...After Judgment, the GRACE assembly Is Then Presented as
A Glorious Church, To CHRIST Himself!... (Ephesians 5:27!)
(7b) ...And, Then CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and
unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father,
In Heaven, Where we Live * Forever And Ever! Amen!
(1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22;
1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2 KJB!)
* Note, The ONE army Of The Body Of CHRIST, Must "have been
assigned our Heavenly positions" for ruling and reigning! Amen?
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LORD JESUS, thank You so much for Your Precious BLOOD,
Gift Of Eternal Salvation, And for Your Blessed Hope of
Glorification When You Come To Finally Gather us Home! Amen.
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Please Be Very Richly Blessed, Encouraged, And Comforted! And:
Precious friend(s), see you In God's Great GloryLand!! ♫ 😇 ↑
Part II
God's Prophetic Program, and second earthly coming
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!:
(1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!:
CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From
Heaven! (Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel,
And With The Trump of God! (1 Thessalonians 4:16!)
3) God (JESUS CHRIST) Will Bring With Him {those who Were With
Him In Heaven}, part Of His Own, those who are “asleep In JESUS!”
(2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13!)
(4) CHRIST Descends With One archangel, Will resurrect those
asleep {in 3)} First, and Then, we “which are alive and remain,” {which
Is A Mystery!}, will be changed/all “incorruptible, And Caught Up”
together to meet The LORD in the air, in the “twinkling of an eye!”
(1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53!)
(5) CHRIST “Gathers His Body” To Himself, to Take them To Heaven...
(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1-2;
Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18!)
6)...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body,
By The Head Himself!... (Romans 2:6, 16, 14:10-12;
1 Corinthians 3:8-15, 4:5, 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10;
Ephesians 6:8; Colossians 3:24-25!)
(7a) ...After Judgment, the GRACE assembly Is Then Presented as
A Glorious Church, To CHRIST Himself!... (Ephesians 5:27!)
(7b) ...And, Then CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and
unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father,
In Heaven, Where we Live * Forever And Ever! Amen!
(1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22;
1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2 KJB!)
* Note, The ONE army Of The Body Of CHRIST, Must "have been
assigned our Heavenly positions" for ruling and reigning! Amen?
---------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You so much for Your Precious BLOOD,
Gift Of Eternal Salvation, And for Your Blessed Hope of
Glorification When You Come To Finally Gather us Home! Amen.
---------------------------------------------------------
Please Be Very Richly Blessed, Encouraged, And Comforted! And:
Precious friend(s), see you In God's Great GloryLand!! ♫ 😇 ↑
Op: Mystery Departure vs Prophesied 2nd Coming
Updated version
Precious friends,
What Saith The Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided?:
Part I
God’s PRE - TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:
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LORD JESUS, we beseech Thee Now For Thy Divine Understanding
In This Thy Most Important Doctrine For our Comfort And Consolation.
Amen. (1 Thessalonians 4:18)
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Time Of JACOB’s {Israel's} Trouble (TOJT), Ending With
The Second Coming, is found in God's Context:
God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom
(“ages” past/future) (Genesis-John; Hebrews-Revelation)
God’s “Earthly Kingdom” Purpose "From the foundation of the world”
(Matthew 25:34)
God's Purpose Prophesied “since the world began” (Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21!)
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!" {online}:
Great GRACE Departure!
Pre-TOJT Resurrection/Departure of The Body Of CHRIST,
Ending God’s Age Of GRACE, Is Found In:
God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
{ Current = “But Now!” } (Romans through Philemon!)
God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose "Before the foundation of the world”
(Ephesians 1:4; 2 Timothy 1:9!)
God's Heavenly Purpose Kept Secret “since the world began”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9!)
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The Second Coming, According to Prophecy:
(1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His
Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords,
Is Coming From Heaven! (Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On
His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!),
His armies * on white horses! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * “All Of His holy angels,”
In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations…
(Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)
(5) With Another trumpet (After "the 7th angel trumpet in heaven), on
the earth, Angels Are Sent, By The KING, To: “gather the elect”...
(Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27!)
(6)...for the “judgment of the Earthly Nations” By The Son of man, The King!
(Matthew 25:31-46!)
(7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous
then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels!
(Matthew 25:34-46!)
to be continued...
Updated version
Precious friends,
What Saith The Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided?:
Part I
God’s PRE - TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, we beseech Thee Now For Thy Divine Understanding
In This Thy Most Important Doctrine For our Comfort And Consolation.
Amen. (1 Thessalonians 4:18)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time Of JACOB’s {Israel's} Trouble (TOJT), Ending With
The Second Coming, is found in God's Context:
God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom
(“ages” past/future) (Genesis-John; Hebrews-Revelation)
God’s “Earthly Kingdom” Purpose "From the foundation of the world”
(Matthew 25:34)
God's Purpose Prophesied “since the world began” (Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21!)
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!" {online}:
Great GRACE Departure!
Pre-TOJT Resurrection/Departure of The Body Of CHRIST,
Ending God’s Age Of GRACE, Is Found In:
God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
{ Current = “But Now!” } (Romans through Philemon!)
God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose "Before the foundation of the world”
(Ephesians 1:4; 2 Timothy 1:9!)
God's Heavenly Purpose Kept Secret “since the world began”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9!)
-------------------
The Second Coming, According to Prophecy:
(1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His
Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords,
Is Coming From Heaven! (Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On
His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!),
His armies * on white horses! (Revelation 19:12-15)
(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * “All Of His holy angels,”
In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations…
(Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)
(5) With Another trumpet (After "the 7th angel trumpet in heaven), on
the earth, Angels Are Sent, By The KING, To: “gather the elect”...
(Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27!)
(6)...for the “judgment of the Earthly Nations” By The Son of man, The King!
(Matthew 25:31-46!)
(7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous
then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels!
(Matthew 25:34-46!)
to be continued...
Part II
God's Prophetic Program, and second earthly coming
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!" {online}:
The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!:
(1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!:
CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From
Heaven! (Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel,
And With The Trump of God! (1 Thessalonians 4:16!)
3) God (JESUS CHRIST) Will Bring With Him {those who Were With
Him In Heaven}, part Of His Own, those who are “asleep In JESUS!”
(2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13!)
(4) CHRIST Descends With One archangel, Will resurrect those
asleep {in 3)} First, and Then, we “which are alive and remain,” {which
Is A Mystery!}, will be changed/all “incorruptible, And Caught Up”
together to meet The LORD in the air, in the “twinkling of an eye!”
(1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53!)
(5) CHRIST “Gathers His Body” To Himself, to Take them To Heaven...
(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1-2;
Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18!)
6)...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body,
By The Head Himself!... (Romans 2:6, 16, 14:10-12;
1 Corinthians 3:8-15, 4:5, 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10;
Ephesians 6:8; Colossians 3:24-25!)
(7a) ...After Judgment, the GRACE assembly Is Then Presented as
A Glorious Church, To CHRIST Himself!... (Ephesians 5:27!)
(7b) ...And, Then CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and
unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father,
In Heaven, Where we Live * Forever And Ever! Amen!
(1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22;
1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2 KJB!)
* Note, The ONE army Of The Body Of CHRIST, Must "have been
assigned our Heavenly positions" for ruling and reigning! Amen?
Conclusion: verses Never "taken Out Of God's Context" and
"placed in HIS Other Context" will Never Cause Confusion. Amen?
---------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You so much for Your Precious BLOOD,
Gift Of Eternal Salvation, And for Your Blessed Hope of
Glorification When You Come To Finally Gather us Home! Amen.
---------------------------------------------------------
Please Be Very Richly Edified, Encouraged, And Comforted! And:
Precious friend(s), see you In God's Great GloryLand!! ♫ 😇 ↑
More study:
Rightly Divided Bible 'Contrasts'
Will The Body Of Christ go through the Great Tribulation?
Grace, Peace, Mercy, And Love
God's Prophetic Program, and second earthly coming
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!" {online}:
The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!:
(1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!:
CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From
Heaven! (Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17!)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel,
And With The Trump of God! (1 Thessalonians 4:16!)
3) God (JESUS CHRIST) Will Bring With Him {those who Were With
Him In Heaven}, part Of His Own, those who are “asleep In JESUS!”
(2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13!)
(4) CHRIST Descends With One archangel, Will resurrect those
asleep {in 3)} First, and Then, we “which are alive and remain,” {which
Is A Mystery!}, will be changed/all “incorruptible, And Caught Up”
together to meet The LORD in the air, in the “twinkling of an eye!”
(1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53!)
(5) CHRIST “Gathers His Body” To Himself, to Take them To Heaven...
(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1-2;
Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18!)
6)...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body,
By The Head Himself!... (Romans 2:6, 16, 14:10-12;
1 Corinthians 3:8-15, 4:5, 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10;
Ephesians 6:8; Colossians 3:24-25!)
(7a) ...After Judgment, the GRACE assembly Is Then Presented as
A Glorious Church, To CHRIST Himself!... (Ephesians 5:27!)
(7b) ...And, Then CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and
unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father,
In Heaven, Where we Live * Forever And Ever! Amen!
(1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22;
1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2 KJB!)
* Note, The ONE army Of The Body Of CHRIST, Must "have been
assigned our Heavenly positions" for ruling and reigning! Amen?
Conclusion: verses Never "taken Out Of God's Context" and
"placed in HIS Other Context" will Never Cause Confusion. Amen?
---------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You so much for Your Precious BLOOD,
Gift Of Eternal Salvation, And for Your Blessed Hope of
Glorification When You Come To Finally Gather us Home! Amen.
---------------------------------------------------------
Please Be Very Richly Edified, Encouraged, And Comforted! And:
Precious friend(s), see you In God's Great GloryLand!! ♫ 😇 ↑
More study:
Rightly Divided Bible 'Contrasts'
Will The Body Of Christ go through the Great Tribulation?
Grace, Peace, Mercy, And Love
op: Pre-trib Great Grace Departure?
Q: When will these accusations against God's Sound Doctrine "cease and desist?:
Just a short blurb from:
TW: "0:00 a vast portion of professing Christianity is obsessed with a myth a myth that clouds :06their understanding of the end times that obscures other doctrinal truths of the Bible 0:11and that provides false hope concerning the Great Tribulation and the days before the second coming 0:17 of Jesus Christ and yet it is widely believed when I travel to various cities giving public
0:23 presentations concerning the gospel of the kingdom of God and what to expect before Christ's return 0:30 some of the most common questions I receive are centered around this myth so it's time we put 0:36 that myth to rest" (TW)
How does the speaker propose to put the "pre-trib myth" to rest?:
His Title is "the rapture debunked in 3 questions," but upon further review, we
find there are not 3, but there are actually 5!:
"1. What is the Rapture, and why is it considered a myth according to the Bible? 2. When and how does the Bible describe the resurrection and transformation of faithful Christians? 3. Is the Rapture a secret event, or does it involve a public and triumphant moment as per biblical evidence? 4. How does the sequence of trumpets in the Book of Revelation align with the timing of the resurrection of true Christians? 5. Will Christians vanish mysteriously around the world without explanation, or is there a clear biblical understanding of their fate during the end times?" (TW)
So, should we really trust this inconsistent myth - buster, or should we not just
stay with, for God's Approval, to simply keep diligently studying God's Word Of
Truth, Rightly Divided? ie:
Most likely the name-calling will end at God's Great Grace Departure, eh?
Amen.
Q: When will these accusations against God's Sound Doctrine "cease and desist?:
Just a short blurb from:
TW: "0:00 a vast portion of professing Christianity is obsessed with a myth a myth that clouds :06their understanding of the end times that obscures other doctrinal truths of the Bible 0:11and that provides false hope concerning the Great Tribulation and the days before the second coming 0:17 of Jesus Christ and yet it is widely believed when I travel to various cities giving public
0:23 presentations concerning the gospel of the kingdom of God and what to expect before Christ's return 0:30 some of the most common questions I receive are centered around this myth so it's time we put 0:36 that myth to rest" (TW)
How does the speaker propose to put the "pre-trib myth" to rest?:
His Title is "the rapture debunked in 3 questions," but upon further review, we
find there are not 3, but there are actually 5!:
"1. What is the Rapture, and why is it considered a myth according to the Bible? 2. When and how does the Bible describe the resurrection and transformation of faithful Christians? 3. Is the Rapture a secret event, or does it involve a public and triumphant moment as per biblical evidence? 4. How does the sequence of trumpets in the Book of Revelation align with the timing of the resurrection of true Christians? 5. Will Christians vanish mysteriously around the world without explanation, or is there a clear biblical understanding of their fate during the end times?" (TW)
So, should we really trust this inconsistent myth - buster, or should we not just
stay with, for God's Approval, to simply keep diligently studying God's Word Of
Truth, Rightly Divided? ie:
Most likely the name-calling will end at God's Great Grace Departure, eh?
Amen.
Precious friends, I apologize for this mistake - this should be Revelation 19:19:
Amen.
"And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their
armies, gathered together to make war against Him that
sat on the horse, and against His army."
Thanks for your careful attention.Amen.
Precious friends, are you frustrated / discouraged about end times 'no love' = arguing,
criticizing, "...biting and devouring, consuming one another..." (Galatians 5:14-15 AV), or?:
Are you Comforted / Encouraged by "...looking...[ patiently ] waiting...and...watching for our
Blessed Hope?:
Blessed Hope, "looking, watching, and patiently waiting For The LORD Jesus Christ!"
(2 Thessalonians 2:1; Romans 8:18-19; Romans 8:23; Romans 8:25; 1 Corinthians 1:7;
Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10;
1 Thessalonians 5:5-11 AV)
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Further Comfort and Encouragement is here in this Biblically "Concise Condensed":
Evidence Of A Pre-Tribulational Rapture Of The Church! (K Lawson)
criticizing, "...biting and devouring, consuming one another..." (Galatians 5:14-15 AV), or?:
Are you Comforted / Encouraged by "...looking...[ patiently ] waiting...and...watching for our
Blessed Hope?:
Blessed Hope, "looking, watching, and patiently waiting For The LORD Jesus Christ!"
(2 Thessalonians 2:1; Romans 8:18-19; Romans 8:23; Romans 8:25; 1 Corinthians 1:7;
Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10;
1 Thessalonians 5:5-11 AV)
"Looking for that Blessed Hope, and The Glorious Appearing Of
The Great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ!" (Titus 2:13 AV)
Amen.---------
Further Comfort and Encouragement is here in this Biblically "Concise Condensed":
Evidence Of A Pre-Tribulational Rapture Of The Church! (K Lawson)
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