Being forgiven for being born

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Dekote

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So a question I all ways asked when I
was younger 'why am I being punished when I didn't eat the apple and was forced to be born.'
I really don't see that as very fair. Because I'm being punished for the fact that I was born. I even remember praying (8 maybe 9 years old) that if he just killed me now I'll be more loyal than Lucifer before he went crazy (Who in their right mind would physically go up agianst someone that can turn you into dust with just a thought) then at 10 I asked to just be destroyed if he didn't want me in heaven. Because I knew back then that I would turn be like this if I stayed on this mudball of a planet, and I couldn't even understand genesis back then.

I really can't understand why I have to be punished for the crimes of 2 morons that I've never even met! I'm pretty sure no one in there right mind would ask to be born here.

3 years 3 month 2 days.
 
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Dekote

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Only rule: If you're going to quote scripture, please explain it so I don't misinterpret.

Thank you for your ti quick me, I'm sorry for waisting it.
3 years 3 month 2 days.
 
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Abiding

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attitude in life creates much of what we consider reality.
ive always like Caleb after his 40 year wilderness journey.
sad to hear youve been stuck on a fact for so long.
 
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Dekote

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It may be a fact but the question is why are WE being punished because of MORONS that we HAVEN'T MET.
 
JaumeJ

JaumeJ

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I will try to help out from having read. This is not put in mysterious and dark sayings, from the Word, God's ways are not our ways. God is Love, completely unconditional. God is perfect, and this means His judgment is impeccable. Those who have given Him the glory for being the Maker believe He is just. Thus there is some reason we cannot be with Him unless we choose to follow what He lets us know, that is the Word. I am satisfied for myself what and why we are here, but this is something I believe and I cannot prove at all. It really does not matter because I passed the doubting God to having faith in Him many decades ago, and He is always with me, thought there have been times that were a bit trying. Now, I have rambled on a lot of non specifics, so I pray if there is anything here that can be used to make your heart, soul and mind a little more at ease, may it be so. I pray in Jesus Christ's name, amen.
 
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Ariel82

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what is the meaning of this?
3 years 3 month 2 days.
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............the world is being punished for their own sins and stupidity.................
 
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Dekote

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And I'm being punisjed because.......

And you don't want to know the meaning of that.
 
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Fighting4Him

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Simple truth. What you do affects more than yourself. They committed a sin that would run down through generations. Imperfection cannot give birth to perfection. God will not allow unrighteous people to enter Heaven. The wages of sin is death. But He didn't leave us hopeless. He gave us His one and only Son as a sacrifice for our sins. If we admit that we are sinners, believe that He is our salvation, and confess our sins to Him He will forgive us our sins. True we had no choice in being born. But God did. If you are breathing, you are here for a purpose.

And if you want to talk more, just private message me. I've gone through a lot of depression, and thoughts of suicide when I was younger. I would love to talk with you.
 
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Ariel82

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Dekote said:
And I'm being punisjed because.......
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how would I know? i'm not God. You know your heart and your sins. if you don't, pray and ask God He will give you wisdom.
And you don't want to know the meaning of that.
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if i didn't want to know I wouldn't have asked.
 
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Dekote

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Ariel82 said:
how would I know? i'm not God. You know your heart and your sins. if you don't, pray and ask God He will give you wisdom. /QUOTE
Let me refraze: what did I do before I was born.
Ariel82 said:
if i didn't want to know I wouldn't have asked.
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If you understand my post and see my age, you can guess what it means, if you can't then you might not want to know
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Elin

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Dekote said:
So a question I all ways asked when I
was younger 'why am I being punished when I didn't eat the apple and was forced to be born.'
I really don't see that as very fair. Because I'm being punished for the fact that I was born. I even remember praying (8 maybe 9 years old) that if he just killed me now I'll be more loyal than Lucifer before he went crazy (Who in their right mind would physically go up agianst someone that can turn you into dust with just a thought) then at 10 I asked to just be destroyed if he didn't want me in heaven. Because I knew back then that I would turn be like this if I stayed on this mudball of a planet, and I couldn't even understand genesis back then.

I really can't understand why I have to be punished for the crimes of 2 morons that I've never even met! I'm pretty sure no one in there right mind would ask to be born here.

3 years 3 month 2 days.
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A way has been provided out of "this mess."

So "this mess" is a mute point, because if you are in it, it is by your choice not to avail yourself of the way out of it.
 
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Dekote

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Well I have to stay in it because I can't get everything I need to end it yet.
3 years 2 months 30 days.
I didn't have a choice in being here but I going to have a choice on getting out, unless he cares and will attempt at giving me a reason to stay, but he doesn't.
 
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Dekote said:
So a question I all ways asked when I
was younger 'why am I being punished when I didn't eat the apple and was forced to be born.'
I really don't see that as very fair. Because I'm being punished for the fact that I was born. I even remember praying (8 maybe 9 years old) that if he just killed me now I'll be more loyal than Lucifer before he went crazy (Who in their right mind would physically go up agianst someone that can turn you into dust with just a thought) then at 10 I asked to just be destroyed if he didn't want me in heaven. Because I knew back then that I would turn be like this if I stayed on this mudball of a planet, and I couldn't even understand genesis back then.

I really can't understand why I have to be punished for the crimes of 2 morons that I've never even met! I'm pretty sure no one in there right mind would ask to be born here.

3 years 3 month 2 days.
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you are not being punished for crimes of 'two morons' as you put it. You will be punished for ultimately rejecting the love of God which He gave you in His Son's rescue for you on Calvary...and then who will be the moron?
 
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Dekote

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You see this planet, THIS WAS CAUSED BY THEM, they did this! Until I'm dead I'm being punished because of them.
 
JimJimmers

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Dekote, that's why Jesus died, so you may be free. Just come to Him. There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Christ Jesus.
 
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Dekote

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Will I still be alive? Yes? Then I'll still be in sin, which Adam and Eve caused, which was there punishment, which I am still taking.
 
JimJimmers

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Dekote said:
Will I still be alive? Yes? Then I'll still be in sin, which Adam and Eve caused, which was there punishment, which I am still taking.
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Who told you that? It is not God's fault that you believe untruths about Him.
 
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Elin

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Dekote said:
Well I have to stay in it because I can't get everything I need to end it yet.
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Oh, but yes you can.
3 years 2 months 30 days.
I didn't have a choice in being here but I going to have a choice on getting out, unless he cares and will attempt at giving me a reason to stay, but he doesn't.
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Elin

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Dekote said:
Will I still be alive? Yes? Then I'll still be in sin, which Adam and Eve caused, which was there punishment, which I am still taking.
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Do you need meds?
 
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Nancyer

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And still, my heart aches for you. Your obvious anger is very scary, but worse then that, it makes me sad. My heart goes out to you, I wish I was there and could give you a great big hug. And I wouldn't let go. Please know that you have people here who care and are worried about you. Please let us help you and let us love you. And let God love you. Find your bible (come on, everyone has one, go ahead, you can admit it...) Read the Book of John. Then let us know what you read and thought and felt. We'll help you.

Prayers for you always, love and blessings.
 
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