Beware the false prophet's of our time.

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Job became very rich because he served God
I don't think Job was rich in the same way as the rich young ruler in the New Testament. Besides, that was the Old Testament and not the New Testament. The Law of Moses was fulfilled upon the cross with Christ's death. We are under a New Covenant with New Commands.
 

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I don't think Job was rich in the same way as the rich young ruler in the New Testament. Besides, that was the Old Testament and not the New Testament. The Law of Moses was fulfilled upon the cross with Christ's death. We are under a New Covenant with New Commands.
whether it was in the old testament or not it is still relevant, new covenant is a new way to have a relationship with God it doesn't disregard how God blesses ppl and how and what they do with and how they use those blessings. And yes job rich in the same way as the rich young ruler they both were given more than what they needed but they both used it differently
 
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whether it was in the old testament or not it is still relevant, new covenant is a new way to have a relationship with God it doesn't disregard how God blesses ppl and how and what they do with and how they use those blessings. And yes job rich in the same way as the rich young ruler they both were given more than what they needed but they both used it differently
Well, while I will not declare that this is a 100% Bible fact and go beyond what is written to say for sure in regards to the rich young ruler and Job as having different wealth; But what I do know is that the Scriptures clearly teach that the Old Testament Laws and ways are no longer binding for the believer. Yes, many of the moral laws and truths have been repeated in the New Testament, but we don't follow the Old Covenant and yet also the New Covenant. There is no mixing of Covenant laws (Picking and choosing to follow only those OT Laws we think we should follow). We are not to put new wine into old wine skins. Understanding that the New Covenant is the only binding contract for believers today should be Christianity 101 Basics. You will find many verses that teach that the New Covenant is now what is in effect (And not the Old Covenant). We do not sacrifice animals still. Peter was told to break OT Law and eat unclean animals in a vision. Jesus essentially said that the OT Law involving an eye for an eye is not the way anymore and that we are to turn the other cheek if we are smitten instead. This lines up with what Paul teaches. For Paul says do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. This is important to understand because Jesus and Paul teach against one being rich. For if you are truly honest with yourself when you read 1 Timothy 6, you will come to the conclusion that a person cannot be rich and yet also follow Christ.

Anyways, do not take my word for it. You can do your own homework and decide by way of prayer for yourself with the many verses (Which is taught by Grace Community International) here (in regards to which Covenant we are to follow):

https://www.gci.org/law/lawmoses
 
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Well, while I will not declare that this is a 100% Bible fact and go beyond what is written to say for sure in regards to the rich young ruler and Job as having different wealth; But what I do know is that the Scriptures clearly teach that the Old Testament Laws and ways are no longer binding for the believer. Yes, many of the moral laws and truths have been repeated in the New Testament, but we don't follow the Old Covenant and yet also the New Covenant. There is no mixing of Covenant laws (Picking and choosing to follow only those OT Laws we think we should follow). We are not to put new wine into old wine skins. Understanding that the New Covenant is the only binding contract for believers today should be Christianity 101 Basics. You will find many verses that teach that the New Covenant is now what is in effect (And not the Old Covenant). We do not sacrifice animals still. Peter was told to break OT Law and eat unclean animals in a vision. Jesus essentially said that the OT Law involving an eye for an eye is not the way anymore and that we are to turn the other cheek if we are smitten instead. This lines up with what Paul teaches. For Paul says do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. This is important to understand because Jesus and Paul teach against one being rich. For if you are truly honest with yourself when you read 1 Timothy 6, you will come to the conclusion that a person cannot be rich and yet also follow Christ.

Anyways, do not take my word for it. You can do your own homework and decide by way of prayer for yourself with the many verses (Which is taught by Grace Community International) here (in regards to which Covenant we are to follow):

https://www.gci.org/law/lawmoses
Well if you live in the United States you are richer than 90% of the world. Sell your computer and get busy there Richie rich.
 
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Well if you live in the United States you are richer than 90% of the world. Sell your computer and get busy there Richie rich.
Those doors to the Kingdom are shut pretty tight!

Its interesting looking at the Philippians. They are arguably Pauls favorite congregation, more than likely one of the most spiritually mature congregations and had some of the wealthiest people on the planet at that time.
 
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In our time now, there is a false prophets like David Pawson and other like he, who like dresses them self in expensive, and very fine way, and make the shows where everyone can see that it has cost a lot of money.

This kind of man's are not real prophet's but they are just some kind of Bible investigator, more that real servant's of God.

Do not follow them expensive, earthly way, because true servant of God should serve God in modest way in material, like our dear brother apostles serve, by example of our Lord Yeshua.

The expensive way, is a way of the world, and love for this world, and mammon.

Do not deceive your selves.
Most false prophets today can easily be recognized by the fact that they have millions of followers and preach a prosperity gospel. But one day Jesus is going to say to them "I never knew you, depart from me, ye workers of iniquity."
 
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Most false prophets today can easily be recognized by the fact that they have millions of followers and preach a prosperity gospel. But one day Jesus is going to say to them "I never knew you, depart from me, ye workers of iniquity."
Exactly. For can one hoard tons of money while poor people are suffering in your own town or village? God calls us to love and not to be selfish or greedy.
 
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2 Peter 2:1-3

2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."
 
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I don't think Job was rich in the same way as the rich young ruler in the New Testament. Besides, that was the Old Testament and not the New Testament. The Law of Moses was fulfilled upon the cross with Christ's death. We are under a New Covenant with New Commands.
right...you you must be saying you will |NEVER quote from the Old Testament again, eh?

Can we hold you to that please?