Bible Theories and Question on God Creation.

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amberlynlover7

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Ok we know that everything in the bible isn't in the act order especially the days.
Before Heaven and Earth were made. We know that before everything was made there were darkness according to the 1 days. The Earth didn't have any form. However in revelations there were war in Heaven between the Angel and the Dragon.
It said that the Dragon was the deceiver of the world and it called Satan. He was thrown down the earth with his angel.

According to revelations the ancient dragons is a serpent. According to Genesis the serpent is know to be crafted among the beast that God has created.

Satan can disguise himself as the angel of light.

Also Angel who has sin were thrown down to hell. Angel who didn't hold in their position were thrown down in the bottom of pits. They were to be held in chain until judgement day.

Also Lucifer is know to be cherubs who was part of Garden of Eden. Lucifer name mean moring star. Lucifer wanted to ascend the star.

I have a theory that both Lucifer and the Serpent aren't the same person. Because how was Lucifer able to change himself and become a devils. If Lucifer was know to be holy and cherubs. While the serpent who is know to be ancient dragons, a demon and a satan is able disguise himself as an angel. They are both different species or creation that were made by God.

We don't know much about Lucifer.

Also the serpent had his own angel and was able to disguise himself as angel. Also the serpent is able go before God according to Job story.


Satan also is known to be the ruler of the world and a God.
According to the the story when Satan is tempting Jesus. He said if u bow down and worship me I will give you everything in this world. Satan happens to be the dark prince.
 
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We know all about lucifer and when he became satan. What is your question here
 
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“And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:7-9.

Also Satan is never called a God in the bible. God, capital G is a title reserved for the single entity of God. Any other claim of godhood would be a god. And even then they are not actual gods but only percieved as gods by the deceived.

It seems your self professed occult beliefs may be affecting your perceptions.
 
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Demi777 said:
We know all about lucifer and when he became satan. What is your question here
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I have questions are the Satan and Lucifer the same person or thet are different person?
 
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Subhumanoidal said:
“And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Revelation 12:7-9.

Also Satan is never called a God in the bible. God, capital G is a title reserved for the single entity of God. Any other claim of godhood would be a god. And even then they are not actual gods but only percieved as gods by the deceived.

It seems your self professed occult beliefs may be affecting your perceptions.
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My belief and occult have nothing do to with my perception. FYI I'm not even in a occult. Btw I use to be a Christian so I know alot of bible. I'm just simplfy asking questions or giving some theory that I thought of.
 
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Also were Adam and Eve were the only first human beings on the human beings on earth why did god say that he made male and female images on the god say to them to multiply before the 6 days before Adam was made?
 
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amberlynlover7 said:
I have questions are the Satan and Lucifer the same person or thet are different person?
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Its written that Lucifer was his name in heaven and became Satan when he fell and he likes calling himself the dragin
 
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amberlynlover7 said:
I have questions are the Satan and Lucifer the same person or thet are different person?
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Lucifer was probably the highest angel at one time. However, when he became the enemy of God and mankind, he became the Adversary, and was cast out of Heaven. And in Hebrew ha Satan and means Adversary.

As for the Serpent, since Satan is called that Great Dragon, that is probably what it was to begin with. Satan took possession of the Serpent/Dragon and deceived Eve.
 
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amberlynlover7 said:
My belief and occult have nothing do to with my perception. FYI I'm not even in a occult. Btw I use to be a Christian so I know alot of bible. I'm just simplfy asking questions or giving some theory that I thought of.
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Your meditation and stuff is actually occult so hes right sadly it messed up ur perception when ur in it
 
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amberlynlover7 said:
My belief and occult have nothing do to with my perception. FYI I'm not even in a occult. Btw I use to be a Christian so I know alot of bible. I'm just simplfy asking questions or giving some theory that I thought of.
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You used to be a Christian? Or you are a Christian, and just stopped going to Church, for whatever reason/s?
 
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Also if Lucifer was an angel and he happens to be Satan why didn't God sent Lucifer to hell if He actually committed sin and lost his position in Heaven since he was suppose to be sent in Hell in chains like the angel who were being held until Judgement Day. Also a serpent happens to be an ancient dragon that God created which is known to be a demon. The serpent has appeared ever since Adam and Eve were made and he was on Earth. Also is Heaven in another dimension or is it part of Earth and is connected or is separate universe. Because I noticed when it said in that the bible the part where they was war in heaven. The serpent and his angel were thrown down on Heaven.

amberlynlover7 said:
I have questions are the Satan and Lucifer the same person or thet are different person?
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amberlynlover7 said:
Ok we know that everything in the bible isn't in the act order especially the days.
Before Heaven and Earth were made. We know that before everything was made there were darkness according to the 1 days. The Earth didn't have any form. However in revelations there were war in Heaven between the Angel and the Dragon.
It said that the Dragon was the deceiver of the world and it called Satan. He was thrown down the earth with his angel.

According to revelations the ancient dragons is a serpent. According to Genesis the serpent is know to be crafted among the beast that God has created.

Satan can disguise himself as the angel of light.

Also Angel who has sin were thrown down to hell. Angel who didn't hold in their position were thrown down in the bottom of pits. They were to be held in chain until judgement day.

Also Lucifer is know to be cherubs who was part of Garden of Eden. Lucifer name mean moring star. Lucifer wanted to ascend the star.

I have a theory that both Lucifer and the Serpent aren't the same person. Because how was Lucifer able to change himself and become a devils. If Lucifer was know to be holy and cherubs. While the serpent who is know to be ancient dragons, a demon and a satan is able disguise himself as an angel. They are both different species or creation that were made by God.

We don't know much about Lucifer.

Also the serpent had his own angel and was able to disguise himself as angel. Also the serpent is able go before God according to Job story.

Satan also is known to be the ruler of the world and a God.
According to the the story when Satan is tempting Jesus. He said if u bow down and worship me I will give you everything in this world. Satan happens to be the dark prince.
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If you are truly seeking answers to these matters, I encourage you to spend some time with Dr. Michael Heiser's work, available on YouTube. He addresses these issues in great detail.
 
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amberlynlover7 said:
Also if Lucifer was an angel and he happens to be Satan why didn't God sent Lucifer to hell if He actually committed sin and lost his position in Heaven since he was suppose to be sent in Hell in chains like the angel who were being held until Judgement Day. Also a serpent happens to be an ancient dragon that God created which is known to be a demon. The serpent has appeared ever since Adam and Eve were made and he was on Earth. Also is Heaven in another dimension or is it part of Earth and is connected or is separate universe. Because I noticed when it said in that the bible the part where they was war in heaven. The serpent and his angel were thrown down on Heaven.
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Lucifer means light bringer. Hes not that anymore. Hes loose on earth. If you wanna understand heaven and the spiritual realm theres a preacher who studied that very well. Check out Michael S Heiser on youtube.
 
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Dino246 said:
If you are truly seeking answers to these matters, I encourage you to spend some time with Dr. Michael Heiser's work, available on YouTube. He addresses these issues in great detail.
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You mind reader
 
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amberlynlover7

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Demi777 said:
Your meditation and stuff is actually occult so hes right sadly it messed up ur perception when ur in it
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I don't know what stuff are you're referring to? I only use mediation for peace and quiet. Listening to instrumental while relaxing. While Law Of Attraction I just use vision board as a motivated and goals or postive things that I want to achieve. After all there are christian who use mediation to study the bible and vision board as a prayer the want to ask for God while visualizing.
Btw you guys are going off topic this post just happened to be some questions or theory that I like to share and thought of.


Demi777 said:
Your meditation and stuff is actually occult so hes right sadly it messed up ur perception when ur in it
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amberlynlover7

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NayborBear said:
You used to be a Christian? Or you are a Christian, and just stopped going to Church, for whatever reason/s?
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ya I use to be a christian. I don't barely go to church probably once a month.
 
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amberlynlover7

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Dino246 said:
If you are truly seeking answers to these matters, I encourage you to spend some time with Dr. Michael Heiser's work, available on YouTube. He addresses these issues in great detail.
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Nehemiah6 said:
Lucifer was probably the highest angel at one time. However, when he became the enemy of God and mankind, he became the Adversary, and was cast out of Heaven. And in Hebrew ha Satan and means Adversary.

As for the Serpent, since Satan is called that Great Dragon, that is probably what it was to begin with. Satan took possession of the Serpent/Dragon and deceived Eve.
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Nehemiah6 said:
Lucifer was probably the highest angel at one time. However, when he became the enemy of God and mankind, he became the Adversary, and was cast out of Heaven. And in Hebrew ha Satan and means Adversary.

As for the Serpent, since Satan is called that Great Dragon, that is probably what it was to begin with. Satan took possession of the Serpent/Dragon and deceived Eve.
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But wasn't God was the one who made serpent?
The serpent was know to be a Dragon that is called Satan and a Devil.

Also Lucifer was know to be the moring star that is supposed to be part of Garden of Eden?

Isaiah 14:12
How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!

Genesis 3:1 - 24

ESV - 1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God actually say, 'You shall not eat of any tree in the garden'? 2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden.

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amberlynlover7 said:
But wasn't God was the one who made serpent?
The serpent was know to be a Dragon that is called Satan and a Devil.

Also Lucifer was know to be the moring star that is supposed to be part of Garden of Eden?

Isaiah 14:12
How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!

Genesis 3:1 - 24

ESV - 1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God actually say, 'You shall not eat of any tree in the garden'? 2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden.

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Yes, God made the entity that we call 'the serpent'. However, there is a whole lot going on in that passage that doesn't come through in English. Respectfully, you aren't going to get the full picture just by asking a few questions on a forum. :)
 
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amberlynlover7

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Also If Lucifer was an angel. Wasn't Lucifer was supposed to be in Hell? Since Lucifer lost his position or has sin against God.

2 Peter 2:4
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment


Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day—

If He was the devil that cause war in Heaven why was he thrown into earth rather than Hell?


Revelation 12:9

And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.

Jesus Said
I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven”


Revelation 12:7-9

Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven.
 
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2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

The serpent is capable to disguise himself as an Angel.

While Angel aren't capable disguise them as demon instead of human beings. Remember the story of Lot.
 
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