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mailmandan

mailmandan

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Pisteuo said:
Just keep believing then!

You don't need to misrepresent me as something I'm not. At least you know the truth about pisteuo, and will be held accountable for your choices.

Hope it helps!
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I already knew the truth about pisteuo and you will be held accountable for trying to “shoe horn” works “into” the definition which alters the gospel.
 
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Pisteuo

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fredoheaven said:
I believe, it is not mistranslated at all. The translation of a word would have to depend on its context. What we have is about translation, not a mere definition of a Greek word in English. Nevertheless, the KJV translators are correct to say because they knew pisteou is not to be translated uniformly as "believe". Actually, the KJV did not consider "believing" in the translation of pisteou.

Pisteou, according to the KJV has entirely 248x word usage translated in English as believe 239, commit unto 4, commit to (one's) trust 1, be committed unto 1, be put in trust with 1, be commit to one's trust 1, believer 1
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So yesterday you hadn't a clue what I was talking about, now your declaring an ultimate truth?

Good luck to you.
 
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Pisteuo

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mailmandan said:
I already knew the truth about pisteuo and you will be held accountable for trying to “shoe horn” works “into” the definition which alters the gospel.
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As long as by work being courage and tinacity, I'll gladly expect to be held accountable.
 
mailmandan

mailmandan

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Pisteuo said:
As long as by work being courage and tinacity, I'll gladly expect to be held accountable.
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Good luck with that! Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of his finished work of redemption alone and not based on the merits of our works. (Romans 1:16; 3:24-28; 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Philippians 3:9 etc..).
 
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Pisteuo

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You have good courage now mailman!
 
fredoheaven

fredoheaven

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Pisteuo said:
So yesterday you hadn't a clue what I was talking about, now your declaring an ultimate truth?

Good luck to you.
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Umm. are you now going to withdraw? Of course, I am in no genius to all topics, I need to refresh my memories that even computer memories sometimes needs polishing.:)
 
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Pisteuo

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mailmandan said:
Good luck with that! Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of his finished work of redemption alone and not based on the merits of our works. (Romans 1:16; 3:24-28; 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Philippians 3:9 etc..).
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I think you need to research the difference between Grace , unmerited favor done by the" finished" work of Christ on Calvary. And Faith, pisteuo= "a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender." As per the Vines Greek dictionary.

Grace is what became of the Faith of Christ. We respond with Faith of our own, "through Faith"! A personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. That does take work and effort,just like it always has.

If you want to remain of the mistranslated foundation, you have that choice to do so.
 
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Pisteuo

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fredoheaven said:
Umm. are you now going to withdraw? Of course, I am in no genius to all topics, I need to refresh my memories that even computer memories sometimes needs polishing.:)
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I've been studying and practicing what I've presented to you for over 33 years. You look at pisteuo for 1 day and come to the conclusion I'm wrong?

Ya I'm withdrawing. I thought you really had some experience in translating? Copy and paste just isn't going to fly with me.

I appreciate your calm demeanor though.
 
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