Biggest threats to Christianity

[superdave5221]

Actually, statistically speaking if we were to go through all of history Christians have killed the most people.

To blame a religion or an ideal like communism, atheism, and Christianity is silly. People kill, not ideas.

Christians have killed the most people? Stalin was a Christian? Mao was a Christian? Mohammed was a Christian?, Hitler was a Christian? The Assyrians were Christians? The Babylonians were Christians? The Japanese who attacked Pearl Harbor were Christians? Ghengis Khan was a Christian? Don't fall for Hollywood truisms. Go study your history.

 

[QuestionTime]

1. Consumerism

2. Narcissism

3. Disregard for human life.

None of the above.

The greatest threat to Christianity is "wolves in sheep's clothing."

Maybe a Google search on how many 33rd degree Masons also double as Pastors would be a good start.

Quest

 

[charisenexcelcis]

None of the above.

The greatest threat to Christianity is "wolves in sheep's clothing."

Maybe a Google search on how many 33rd degree Masons also double as Pastors would be a good start.

Quest

But if it is a secret society, why could you find it on google? lol.

 

[oopsies]

But if it is a secret society, why could you find it on google? lol.

lawl i love that response ^.^

 

[MahogonySnail]

hahahaaaa.

 

[Lauren]

- ecumenicalism

- emerging church / WOF / prosperity gospel et al garbage that point people to just about anything but Christ

 

[greatkraw]

hillsong

 

[aspen]

- ecumenicalism

- emerging church / WOF / prosperity gospel et al garbage that point people to just about anything but Christ

Wow! Really?

I understand the prosperity gospel part - it is an oxymoron - like dehydrated water, but what is wrong with the emerging church movement and the ecumenical movement?

 

[greatkraw]

denominations feel threated by both emerging church and ecumenism

 

[aspen]

denominations feel threated by both emerging church and ecumenism

.......Why?

 

[Lauren]

denominations feel threated by both emerging church and ecumenism

That's not along the lines that I was thinking, but I'll have to expound tomorrow - way too late here to form cohesive thoughts.

 

[carpetmanswife]

- ecumenicalism

- emerging church / WOF / prosperity gospel et al garbage that point people to just about anything but Christ

Hi lauren havent seen you in awhile

 

[giantone]

- ecumenicalism

- emerging church / WOF / prosperity gospel et al garbage that point people to just about anything but Christ

Many Christians bought the deception that ecumenical-ism is a good thing when it's not. There's a Giant in the Bible who's name is translated brother in part. Were doing a series on the giants in the Bible and most of them have sin as there names. One of these weeks I'll post some of the notes.

 

[JoyBelle]

Since there is so little persecution I guess that is why christians persecute each other.

You mean in the US? Christians around the world are terribly persecuted in many countries.

 

[VW]

You mean in the US? Christians around the world are terribly persecuted in many countries.

Yes, in some places they are persecuted. Some terribly. But I believe that what we do to ourselves in this country, (the good ol USA,) is worse. Much worse.

 

[charisenexcelcis]

Yes, in some places they are persecuted. Some terribly. But I believe that what we do to ourselves in this country, (the good ol USA,) is worse. Much worse.

I can't agree with you on this one. In Iran, the average life expectency of the pastor of a church is two-and-one-half years after he takes the position. In China, Christians can be arrested and sent to prison without trial. In Nigeria, Christians are dragged into the street and beaten to death, often while the police look on. In Saudi Arabia, you can be beheaded. What happens between Christians in America may be shameful, but it doesn't compare to the persicution that occurs in other countries.

 

[VW]

I can't agree with you on this one. In Iran, the average life expectency of the pastor of a church is two-and-one-half years after he takes the position. In China, Christians can be arrested and sent to prison without trial. In Nigeria, Christians are dragged into the street and beaten to death, often while the police look on. In Suaid Arabia, you can be beheaded. What happens between Christians in America may be shameful, but it doesn't compare to the persicution that occurs in other countries.

What is worse, that one give their life for Jesus, or that one be lead away from Jesus to die in hell, because of hate or lack of love or being in a lukewarm congregation. Believing that one is saved, having never come to the cross of Christ nor to His resurrection, never having received His Spirit in them?

What happens to the bodies of those christians is terrible, but if you asked them, they would not want to live here, be a christian here. They know what we are.

 

[charisenexcelcis]

- ecumenicalism

- emerging church / WOF / prosperity gospel et al garbage that point people to just about anything but Christ

Ecumenicalism--because the expectation that in order for Christians to unite they would have to compromise on both essential and dearly held beliefs which would lead to a large body that no longer would by Christian. This fear has also led to the explosion of "non-denominational" Christianity. This fear is not entirely unfounded. I think that what we need is spiritual unity under the banner of historical Christianity with respect for cultural distinctives.
Emerging church--in the effort to craft a message that is palatable to the unchurched, the fear is again that vital aspects of Christianity will be left out or downplayed.

 

[charisenexcelcis]

What is worse, that one give their life for Jesus, or that one be lead away from Jesus to die in hell, because of hate or lack of love or being in a lukewarm congregation. Believing that one is saved, having never come to the cross of Christ nor to His resurrection, never having received His Spirit in them?

What happens to the bodies of those christians is terrible, but if you asked them, they would not want to live here, be a christian here. They know what we are.

I would not dishonor the persicuted Christians by likening our self inflicted troubles with their faithfulness in the face of martyrdom. I think we may be using different language here rather than disagreeing as I think you are talking about the spiritual state of the church in America and I am speaking of the physical circumstances of the church in the third world.

 

[VW]

I would not dishonor the persicuted Christians by likening our self inflicted troubles with their faithfulness in the face of martyrdom. I think we may be using different language here rather than disagreeing as I think you are talking about the spiritual state of the church in America and I am speaking of the physical circumstances of the church in the third world.

Absolutely, that is exactly what I am speaking about. And I think that the spiritual health of a person is much much more important than their physical health. I think that they are dishonored by being called by the same name as us. They are the true Christians. We are children, tossed about by every wind.