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includes?
so what else are you including?
LOL! you are not as swift as you fancy yourself to be
leaving out your fanciful belief on baptismal regeneration is you being duplistic
who do you think you are fooling here? every thread you are in you divert it to baptismal regeneration
I call that an obsession
so what else are you including?
LOL! you are not as swift as you fancy yourself to be
leaving out your fanciful belief on baptismal regeneration is you being duplistic
who do you think you are fooling here? every thread you are in you divert it to baptismal regeneration
I call that an obsession
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The word gospel literally means “good news” and occurs 93 times in the Bible, exclusively in the New Testament. In Greek, it is the word euaggelion, from which we get our English words evangelist, evangel, and evangelical. The gospel is, broadly speaking, the whole of Scripture; more narrowly, the gospel is the good news concerning Christ and the way of salvation.
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well of course you do!
but that is not what happened in this thread and not others I have seen you in either
waggles post 70 is referenced by you in post 73 and includes your belief that baptism is part of salvation
and then in post 199 you dig right into what CS1 said to the op and start about baptism on a post that was NOT even directed to you so there goes your explanation of how you only respond to questions . CS was asking the op about oneness
what bothers me is the cute little way you twist things and deny what you actually do
in post 210 CS tells you that he was not even asking about baptism
I ask you why you are making things all about baptism again in post 221
continue reading. you successfully divert the entire thread to your own devices once again
you started it and you continue it. page 25 now
only you do not really believe that
to quote you again 'everyone can read what you write'
but that is not what happened in this thread and not others I have seen you in either
waggles post 70 is referenced by you in post 73 and includes your belief that baptism is part of salvation
and then in post 199 you dig right into what CS1 said to the op and start about baptism on a post that was NOT even directed to you so there goes your explanation of how you only respond to questions . CS was asking the op about oneness
what bothers me is the cute little way you twist things and deny what you actually do
in post 210 CS tells you that he was not even asking about baptism
I ask you why you are making things all about baptism again in post 221
continue reading. you successfully divert the entire thread to your own devices once again
you started it and you continue it. page 25 now
only you do not really believe that
to quote you again 'everyone can read what you write'
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This idea is new to me. If someone is baptised, they are baptised into God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit,
because the communion is with God, who is represented by all three. To divide this is to divide the meaning of
communion in our hearts, new birth, walking in righteousness, love ruling everything we do, truth, integrity,
holiness.
I suspect humans suffer from secret knowledge that I know, but you do not, which makes me special and my
group, and we are ok, but you guys are lost, if only you could be with us, feeling. Everything evil is with that
other group over there, but we are safe, loving, and definately got it right.
I wonder if the choice of coat hook is actually random, but the emotional boost one gets by belonging is the
same which proves they have definately got it right. Speak to the flat earthers, and you get it all in one.
I used to go to an open brethren church, and it is easy to absorb this feeling of having it, and doing the special
meetings that convey this sense of belonging.
Other than identifying the problem, members of these groups can take 5 or 10 years to come out of it, and
start to get some balance, so powerful is the effect. But if you begin to see Jesus's love and transcending every
aspect of life, such compromises and stubborness drops away. I only believe this is freedom, because I see my
problems and those of all the groups I belong to, so hopefully I have no delusions of exclusivity and walk in
the light of my weakness and need to follow Jesus in all things. God bless you.
because the communion is with God, who is represented by all three. To divide this is to divide the meaning of
communion in our hearts, new birth, walking in righteousness, love ruling everything we do, truth, integrity,
holiness.
I suspect humans suffer from secret knowledge that I know, but you do not, which makes me special and my
group, and we are ok, but you guys are lost, if only you could be with us, feeling. Everything evil is with that
other group over there, but we are safe, loving, and definately got it right.
I wonder if the choice of coat hook is actually random, but the emotional boost one gets by belonging is the
same which proves they have definately got it right. Speak to the flat earthers, and you get it all in one.
I used to go to an open brethren church, and it is easy to absorb this feeling of having it, and doing the special
meetings that convey this sense of belonging.
Other than identifying the problem, members of these groups can take 5 or 10 years to come out of it, and
start to get some balance, so powerful is the effect. But if you begin to see Jesus's love and transcending every
aspect of life, such compromises and stubborness drops away. I only believe this is freedom, because I see my
problems and those of all the groups I belong to, so hopefully I have no delusions of exclusivity and walk in
the light of my weakness and need to follow Jesus in all things. God bless you.
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In your dreams
You need to get off your high horse and stop your nonsense
What I quoted came from John 4. Where Jesus told a woman and in effect all of us, that if we ask him, he will give us rivers of living water, flowing to eternal life. No mention of tongues or anything else.
Jesus also told her the rivers of livibg water WAS the HOLY SPIRIT
But you also want to equate the work of God and the work of man as equal. So it is easy to understand why basic concepts of scripture are hard for you to understand.
So you also need to study.
You need to get off your high horse and stop your nonsense
What I quoted came from John 4. Where Jesus told a woman and in effect all of us, that if we ask him, he will give us rivers of living water, flowing to eternal life. No mention of tongues or anything else.
Jesus also told her the rivers of livibg water WAS the HOLY SPIRIT
But you also want to equate the work of God and the work of man as equal. So it is easy to understand why basic concepts of scripture are hard for you to understand.
So you also need to study.
When the world is on fire and people are dying due to Wormwood then we all shall see the power and purpose
of praying in tongues …
they shall pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Mark 16:18
of praying in tongues …
they shall pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Mark 16:18
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Ha ha ha ha always wit the jokes.
This is exactly why Jesus has brought about Pentecostal revival in these very last days.
When the whole world suffers the worldwide tribulation and catastrophes that are about to come upon us all, then it will be
as in the days of Moses and the children of Israel when they suffered not in Goshen while those in Egypt suffered all the plagues.
There will be a sifting of the wheat from the chaff.
This is exactly why Jesus has brought about Pentecostal revival in these very last days.
When the whole world suffers the worldwide tribulation and catastrophes that are about to come upon us all, then it will be
as in the days of Moses and the children of Israel when they suffered not in Goshen while those in Egypt suffered all the plagues.
There will be a sifting of the wheat from the chaff.
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Amen! What do we read about Abraham in regards to circumcision? Romans 4:11 - And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also. Why would baptism be any different?
In Colossians 2:12, the context shows that baptism is presented as the New Testament counterpart of circumcision in the Old Testament. They are presented in a careful parallel to each other. The one who is "in Christ" is circumcised with a circumcision made "without hands" and the parallel usage of circumcision and baptism demonstrates that we understand the "baptism" to be made "without hands" also.
*Romans 2:28-29 shows clearly that it is not physical circumcision "made with hands" but *spiritual circumcision* which makes one truly a Jew and one of Abraham's children.
Since baptism is the New Testament counterpart to circumcision in the Old Testament, we may therefore understand Romans 2:28-29 to have the same meaning in relation to baptism that it has in relation to circumcision: For he is *not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh;* but he is a Jew who is one *inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit,* and not in the letter, whose praise is not from men but from God.
Physical circumcision was not the means of obtaining salvation in the Old Testament, for Abraham was saved when he BELIEVED before he was circumcised (Genesis 15:6; Romans 4:2-3; 9-10). The same applies to physical water baptism in the New Testament (Acts 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 15:8,9; 16:31).
In Colossians 2:12, the context shows that baptism is presented as the New Testament counterpart of circumcision in the Old Testament. They are presented in a careful parallel to each other. The one who is "in Christ" is circumcised with a circumcision made "without hands" and the parallel usage of circumcision and baptism demonstrates that we understand the "baptism" to be made "without hands" also.
*Romans 2:28-29 shows clearly that it is not physical circumcision "made with hands" but *spiritual circumcision* which makes one truly a Jew and one of Abraham's children.
Since baptism is the New Testament counterpart to circumcision in the Old Testament, we may therefore understand Romans 2:28-29 to have the same meaning in relation to baptism that it has in relation to circumcision: For he is *not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh;* but he is a Jew who is one *inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit,* and not in the letter, whose praise is not from men but from God.
Physical circumcision was not the means of obtaining salvation in the Old Testament, for Abraham was saved when he BELIEVED before he was circumcised (Genesis 15:6; Romans 4:2-3; 9-10). The same applies to physical water baptism in the New Testament (Acts 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 15:8,9; 16:31).
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Notice God's warning that the one who was not circumcised was guilty of breaking covenant with God. One can apply the same standard concerning circumcision to the NT parallel of water baptism. Those who have not been water baptized would be seen as severing their covenant with God.
"And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant." Gen 17:1
"And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant." Gen 17:1
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