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LOL! there you go again, as I said earlier, trying to corner people (now you are doing it to me) into believing in works for salvation.
But, I will answer. I do not believe it is "necessary to do good works" to be justified (saved) before God. Salvation is by God's grace through faith, not of works.
Any work done for the kingdom of God brings a deep joy to the spirit: If as a believer I cannot "buy and sell stuff" (I assume you are talking of the the mark of the beast?), I will have a joy of God through the time of trials - PTL! (Do you think it would be more enjoyable to keep "buying and selling stuff" and then to burn in hellfire forever?!)
But, I will answer. I do not believe it is "necessary to do good works" to be justified (saved) before God. Salvation is by God's grace through faith, not of works.
Any work done for the kingdom of God brings a deep joy to the spirit: If as a believer I cannot "buy and sell stuff" (I assume you are talking of the the mark of the beast?), I will have a joy of God through the time of trials - PTL! (Do you think it would be more enjoyable to keep "buying and selling stuff" and then to burn in hellfire forever?!)
How do you explain Romans 7:14-25? Had Paul been born of God?
The natural man, according to 1 Cor 2:14 will not repent of breaking a spiritual law that he cannot discern, and thinks it to be foolishness.
Only the person, such as Paul, who has been born with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, will repent of breaking a spiritual law
When we have been born again, and commit a sin, we lose our fellowship with God until we repent.
You are not harmonizing the scriptures.
The natural man, according to 1 Cor 2:14 will not repent of breaking a spiritual law that he cannot discern, and thinks it to be foolishness.
Only the person, such as Paul, who has been born with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, will repent of breaking a spiritual law
When we have been born again, and commit a sin, we lose our fellowship with God until we repent.
You are not harmonizing the scriptures.
Your belief will not harmonize, if you consider all of the scriptures. You are misinterpreting many small words in the scriptures, such as, all, as many as, world, perish, in, of, whosoever, salvation, etc.
The inspired scriptures were not written for the purpose of instructing mankind on how to be delivered eternally. They do explain how that man/women are delivered eternally by God's sovereign grace, without the help of mankind.
The scriptures are directed to God's children, as instructions for living their lives as they sojourn here in this world
Salvation, according to Greek interpretation means "a deliverance". There are many deliverances that God's children receive as they sojourn here in this world. Then there is an eternal deliverance by God's sovereign grace, without the help of mankind.
The natural man, until he has been regenerated, cannot see and believe in the things of the Spirit.
The inspired scriptures were not written for the purpose of instructing mankind on how to be delivered eternally. They do explain how that man/women are delivered eternally by God's sovereign grace, without the help of mankind.
The scriptures are directed to God's children, as instructions for living their lives as they sojourn here in this world
Salvation, according to Greek interpretation means "a deliverance". There are many deliverances that God's children receive as they sojourn here in this world. Then there is an eternal deliverance by God's sovereign grace, without the help of mankind.
The natural man, until he has been regenerated, cannot see and believe in the things of the Spirit.
You believe that the natural man, before he has been regenerated, has to exercise faith to accept the FREE gift of grace.
I believe the scriptures teach that the natural man, before he has been regenerated, only has the "faith" of mankind, and his accomplishments, and thinks the things of the Spirit are foolishness, and does not discern them, according to 1 Cor 2:14.
Eph 2 explains that the natural man is spiritually dead, and unable to exercise spiritual faith to accept the gift, when God quickens him. Spiritual faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, Gal 5:22, and the natural man does not have that until after he has been quickened to a new life.
I believe the scriptures teach that the natural man, before he has been regenerated, only has the "faith" of mankind, and his accomplishments, and thinks the things of the Spirit are foolishness, and does not discern them, according to 1 Cor 2:14.
Eph 2 explains that the natural man is spiritually dead, and unable to exercise spiritual faith to accept the gift, when God quickens him. Spiritual faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, Gal 5:22, and the natural man does not have that until after he has been quickened to a new life.
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In Romans 7:14-25 it is clear that Paul is showing the struggles that a carnal man deals with; for in Romans 7:5 he clearly states that what he is about to write refers to a man who was in the flesh.
Then he makes the distinction in Romans 8 of the believer in the Spirit who does not deal with the struggles mentioned in Romans 7.
The man in 1 Corinthians 2:14 is not born again yet, or is a person following the faith as a babe in Christ (much like OSAS’ers today) and has not graduated to the strong meat pertaining to obedience to righteousness (slaying the flesh; the old man).
Then he makes the distinction in Romans 8 of the believer in the Spirit who does not deal with the struggles mentioned in Romans 7.
The man in 1 Corinthians 2:14 is not born again yet, or is a person following the faith as a babe in Christ (much like OSAS’ers today) and has not graduated to the strong meat pertaining to obedience to righteousness (slaying the flesh; the old man).
Luke 13:34, O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killeth the prophets, and stoneth them that are sent unto thee; how often would I gather thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not.
Those that God would gather under his wings were his disobedient children. Because he gave us freedom to choose how we want to live our lives is the reason that, although we are born again, we still, at times, reject his will, and yield our bodies to the temptations of our fleshly nature. When we do so, we lose our fellowship with him until we repent.
I believe the scriptures to teach that God has granted mankind the freedom to choose how he wants to live his life as he sojourns here in this world, but God does not give mankind freedom to choose his eternal inheritance.
Eph 2 plainly explains that the natural man, at the time of being quickened, by God, to eternal life, was spiritually dead, with no ability to accept spiritual things that he can not discern, and thinks is foolishness. 1 Cor 2:14.
Those that God would gather under his wings were his disobedient children. Because he gave us freedom to choose how we want to live our lives is the reason that, although we are born again, we still, at times, reject his will, and yield our bodies to the temptations of our fleshly nature. When we do so, we lose our fellowship with him until we repent.
I believe the scriptures to teach that God has granted mankind the freedom to choose how he wants to live his life as he sojourns here in this world, but God does not give mankind freedom to choose his eternal inheritance.
Eph 2 plainly explains that the natural man, at the time of being quickened, by God, to eternal life, was spiritually dead, with no ability to accept spiritual things that he can not discern, and thinks is foolishness. 1 Cor 2:14.
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This is a parable. The parable was given as a direct response to the Pharisees being upset that sinners gathered to him...
1Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him. 2And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.
The lesson of the parable is that of the attitude of the older brother being like the Pharisees. By telling the story the Pharisees are able to recognize that the older brother was wrong and should be GLAD that his brother who was a sinner was coming back home and being restored to the family. They were angry that sinners were coming to Jesus when they should have been glad. A parable has a way of getting someone to see something that just telling them outright might not have accomplished. Like when Nathan told David about the family pet lamb. Then David figuring out he was the one. The Pharisees heard the story and thought that the older brother was wrong before they snapped OH he is talking about us.
This parable is not about whether a christian gets born again and then leaves off serving the Lord to become a drunk and wanton whoremonger gets to still go to heaven. It is not about the theology of soteriology at all. It has nothing to do with the process of a backsliding christian. It had one purpose, to teach the pharisees that they had the wrong attitude toward their brothers who wanted to repent. It is a human story. The Father, the elder brother, the prodigal is a human story. It is not an allegory. Rejoicing over a sinner that repents is the lesson. There is no lesson about what happens if he did not come home. There is nothing in the story to tell you. Common sense tells you that would be a sad story. There would be no celebration, no party, no joy of the Father. If you insist on making it an allegory instead of a parable then you would be calling the fathers house heaven and if the boy did not come back home how could it be said he got to heaven?
1Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him. 2And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.
The lesson of the parable is that of the attitude of the older brother being like the Pharisees. By telling the story the Pharisees are able to recognize that the older brother was wrong and should be GLAD that his brother who was a sinner was coming back home and being restored to the family. They were angry that sinners were coming to Jesus when they should have been glad. A parable has a way of getting someone to see something that just telling them outright might not have accomplished. Like when Nathan told David about the family pet lamb. Then David figuring out he was the one. The Pharisees heard the story and thought that the older brother was wrong before they snapped OH he is talking about us.
This parable is not about whether a christian gets born again and then leaves off serving the Lord to become a drunk and wanton whoremonger gets to still go to heaven. It is not about the theology of soteriology at all. It has nothing to do with the process of a backsliding christian. It had one purpose, to teach the pharisees that they had the wrong attitude toward their brothers who wanted to repent. It is a human story. The Father, the elder brother, the prodigal is a human story. It is not an allegory. Rejoicing over a sinner that repents is the lesson. There is no lesson about what happens if he did not come home. There is nothing in the story to tell you. Common sense tells you that would be a sad story. There would be no celebration, no party, no joy of the Father. If you insist on making it an allegory instead of a parable then you would be calling the fathers house heaven and if the boy did not come back home how could it be said he got to heaven?
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