Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

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Each of us are intended to be God incarnate.

That is our calling.

Jesus is the eternal priest because through him this is available.

Going this way to God makes us Christian.
 
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When it happens to us we understand what that means in full.

It is our reality now too.

He wanted us to be greater than him.

Do not make him fruitless.
 

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When it happens to us we understand what that means in full.

It is our reality now too.

He wanted us to be greater than him.

Do not make him fruitless.
The student is never greater than the Master. He has the name above every other.
 
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The student is never greater than the Master. He has the name above every other.
He only had a year to minister.

For me Paul has already surpassed him, and John to some extent.

That is not because of Jesus, it is because humanity could not tolerate God in form.
 
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2 Corinthians 3:17 of course, he is the Spirit moving in them... and me... but the human man, Jesus, did not have long.
 

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When it happens to us we understand what that means in full.

It is our reality now too.

He wanted us to be greater than him.

Do not make him fruitless.

You are writing about something but it is not about Christ Jesus as revealed in the Bible.
 
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Sophistry is just the insistence on noticing that everything depends on a presumption.

As Christians our foundational presumption is Christ, but we accept what men tell us about him instead of realizing him directly.
 

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It is what the new testament wants for all.

I wish you'd read it.
The New Testament and the Old Testament the whole bible is about one person. So tell me about that one person and how you came to believe on him and how you are now in right standing because of that faith, that belief in him. Just curious of your testimony.
 
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The New Testament and the Old Testament the whole bible is about one person. So tell me about that one person and how you came to believe on him and how you are now in right standing because of that faith, that belief in him. Just curious of your testimony.
2 Corinthians 3:1-18 again...

The glory of the old testament is made nothing compared to the covenant of the Spirit.
 
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You want to make yourself the authority but scripture disagrees with you...

Are you Christian or not?

If you want to be judged by Moses' covenant you can be.
 

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You want to make yourself the authority but scripture disagrees with you...

Are you Christian or not?

If you want to be judged by Moses' covenant you can be.
Not at all just want to hear your testimony. Which I then believe I can show you why we here and you are of different spirits because we don't serve the same God is why. I would say that the joy of the joy of the Lord is our strength and one joy all believers share is we love to tell others how we came to that person and how he gets the glory for the way he turned messed up lives around. So curious of your testimony so I can share in your joy or point out how we don't share the same spirit because we serve a different God.
 
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Not at all just want to hear your testimony. Which I then believe I can show you why we here and you are of different spirits because we don't serve the same God is why. I would say that the joy of the joy of the Lord is our strength and one joy all believers share is we love to tell others how we came to that person and how he gets the glory for the way he turned messed up lives around. So curious of your testimony so I can share in your joy or point out how we don't share the same spirit because we serve a different God.
The Spirit first appears in Genesis 1:2
Through the old testament the Prophets take on the Spirit and we're told others also have the Spirit of God.
In places like Numbers 11:29 it is desired that all be Prophets with the Spirit of God upon them.
Jesus is again trying to bring us to the Spirit, but in a more direct way.
We have not understood him, and focus on the book only.
I want all to focus on the Spirit.
 

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The Spirit first appears in Genesis 1:2
Through the old testament the Prophets take on the Spirit and we're told others also have the Spirit of God.
In places like Numbers 11:29 it is desired that all be Prophets with the Spirit of God upon them.
Jesus is again trying to bring us to the Spirit, but in a more direct way.
We have not understood him, and focus on the book only.
I want all to focus on the Spirit.
We here have a personal relationship with him. I am not asking a hard question at all in fact you by your own words have gone on using the word "experience" how experience trumps all. So I am asking for your experience with him and how he made you alive. If you are unable to do so then you have your answer why as you say we here and you don't share the same spirit because we don't.

So do you have a testimony and if not would you like to hear more so you can have one and the assurance that you are forgiven and in right standing? You like experience, I can tell you there is no greater experience as when you come to know him and believe on him and then see daily how he works in your life. So that it consumes you and all you want is more of him and that personal relationship with him.
 
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We here have a personal relationship with him. I am not asking a hard question at all in fact you by your own words have gone on using the word "experience" how experience trumps all. So I am asking for your experience with him and how he made you alive. If you are unable to do so then you have your answer why as you say we here and you don't share the same spirit because we don't.

So do you have a testimony and if not would you like to hear more so you can have one and the assurance that you are forgiven and in right standing? You like experience, I can tell you there is no greater experience as when you come to know him and believe on him and then see daily how he works in your life. So that it consumes you and all you want is more of him and that personal relationship with him.
Do you though?

God is with me right now, why do you want to talk about the past?
 
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Seeking God has been my whole adult life.

Even when I played soccer it became an interaction with God.

There is nothing else to me.

This is not a hobby for me.
 

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Seeking God has been my whole adult life.

Even when I played soccer it became an interaction with God.

There is nothing else to me.

This is not a hobby for me.
Sadly friend you don't know God, you have only studied religions of the world and built for yourself pseudo faith built upon the sand.
My prayer for you is that God will bring a storm into your life to destroy your pseudo beliefs the sand they are built upon so that you come to a place were you have to turn to that rock and build upon him Jesus Christ, the hope of our salvation.

All this talk of the spirit you know not of the spirit because the mission of the spirit is to turn all eyes and attention on him, the person of Jesus Christ. The only name, the only person by which all men can be saved. So we do have a different spirit as the spirit is the comforter to lead me and guide me to seek after Christ and to hope and trust in him as my eternal salvation. To deny all to forsake all just to know him the person Jesus Christ. God made into flesh who paid my price and his righteousness has made me in right standing.

I will be praying for that the blinders of deception be removed from your eyes and that God brings you to a place of acceptance or rejection.