Calvinism and Context?

[Bbrdrd]

Take it easy on the lady. What is your problem? Should not the love and patience of our Lord be demonstrated?
And this to a dear sister in Christ???

If it is sin, God will call me to repent of it. There is a place for harshness, especially when dealing with the proud.

Until that is so, I will respond as I genuinely react and not paper it over with a false kindness.

 

[EleventhHour]

Amazing that a question a child can understand is "jargon."

It's quite clear you're filled with pride and no matter what Scripture says on the matter just want to feel special, so you cling to the contradiction and even forward it as a false humility.

The only spirit you seem to be led by is your own.

This is the exact truth!!

Absolutely tiresome!

"My truth does not jive with your truth and therefore you must be wrong based upon my personal experience."

So wrong.

 

[EleventhHour]

false kindness.

I have no use for false kindness, especially when it comes to scripture.

 

[jackrosie]

Your exact words.

Yeah you have no response....... because actually you do not know scripture the way you present and you revert to "my conversion" and you do not understand.

Your every trick in the book won’t work.....I have no idea what you are talking about..

I have told you,a million times.
God,chose,drew and saved me!....He indwells my inner being from day one....quickened,regenerated,Born again...a child of God.......I have a personal relationship with Him.....

Night,night,enjoy your day,evening.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Consider the "all" of the following passage (what does it mean, here, do you think?):

"14 For the love of Christ compels us, having concluded this, that One has died for all, therefore all have died. 15 And He died for all that those living no longer should live to themselves, but to the One having died for them and having been raised again."
- 2Cor5:14-15


["all have died," but not all are (considered) "those living [G2198]"]

 

[EleventhHour]

Your every trick in the book won’t work.....I have no idea what you are talking about..

I have told you,a million times.
God,chose,drew and saved me!....He indwells my inner being from day one....quickened,regenerated,Born again...a child of God.......I have a personal relationship with Him.....

Night,night,enjoy your day,evening.

Yeah the Calvinists you understand no matter what level of language they use.

Makes me really wonder what is your role here on CC?

 

[Bbrdrd]

I have no use for false kindness, especially when it comes to scripture.

Me either.

It's also rather grating that the only substantial difference between what she said to me and what I said to her is I didn't beat around the bush. Yet @cv5 is ok with her abuses of others but my lack of toleration for it when it is directed at me is somehow deserving of censure.

 

[jackrosie]

Yeah the Calvinists you understand no matter what level of language they use.

Makes me really wonder what is your role here on CC?

I’m here to spread the word of God...the TRUTH!...which you kick against.

 

[jackrosie]

Me either.

It's also rather grating that the only substantial difference between what she said to me and what I said to her is I didn't beat around the bush. Yet @cv5 is ok with her abuses of others but my lack of toleration for it when it is directed at me is somehow deserving of censure.

My "abuses"😂😂.....Look at your own Sir,...those blinkers need removing......most on here have insulted...not just me.....once again......only seeing what you want to see.

 

[Bbrdrd]

My "abuses"😂😂.....Look at your own Sir,...those blinkers need removing......most on here have insulted...not just me.....once again......only seeing what you want to see.

Where did I exempt myself in that? If you had understood what I was saying you would recognize that the issue I have is the hypocrasy of ignoring your statements while calling me out for essentially turning what you said back on you. If it deserves censure, then both of us deserve censure.

 

[jackrosie]

Where did I exempt myself in that? If you had understood what I was saying you would recognize that the issue I have is the hypocrasy of ignoring your statements while calling me out for essentially turning what you said back on you. If it deserves censure, then both of us deserve censure.

Once again.no idea what you are talking about....let's stick with the subject matter....only I can't with you,because.

A....you don't understand me..and.

B...I don't understand you.....so a stale mate.😉

 

[Just_Jo]

Explain how the Father drew you to Jesus?....did he draw you?

How do you keep persevering?

ALL of this means nothing!

To persevere means to KEEP studying the word,always be in prayer about everything,walk your DAILY walk in the Holy Ghost leadership,TRUST FULLY IN GOD until your death!


I was a young woman when the HS began to prick my heart that I was an enemy of God.
Yes I had been witnessed to,and heard preachers of the truth.
The HS convicts us of our status against God bc of our sin of unbelief. Many say (lip service) they believe in Him,but unless they are convicted of sin and their hearts are pricked by the conviction of unbelief they remain in lip service.

Two years of the HS revealing unto me regardless of how good I was living,I was lost ,away from God.

By this I began to be soooooo burdened and my heart literally felt on fire for shame .

I came to Jesus,broken hearted ashamed and lost. The HS convicted me ; Jesus was my advocate to the Father!

Now how or by whom I was drawn is a minute point,Jesus was and IS the only way to the Father!

Yes I would agree that He knew us before we were born for God is ALL knowing,nothing is his from Him.

No one's heart is more perfect than another's that God would say I CHOSE YOU.

He offers the gift of redemption to all,it's up the individual to chose to repent and believe.

This is the most prescious EVENT of our lives above ALL else.

I don't know all these doctrines of men that abound but the doctrine of the word is TRUTH AND TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!


He convicts of unbelief,he offers relief,but WE MUST CHOSE THIS DAY AND EVERY DAY WHOM WE SHALL SERVE!

 

[jackrosie]

ALL of this means nothing!

To persevere means to KEEP studying the word,always be in prayer about everything,walk your DAILY walk in the Holy Ghost leadership,TRUST FULLY IN GOD until your death!


I was a young woman when the HS began to prick my heart that I was an enemy of God.
Yes I had been witnessed to,and heard preachers of the truth.
The HS convicts us of our status against God bc of our sin of unbelief. Many say (lip service) they believe in Him,but unless they are convicted of sin and their hearts are pricked by the conviction of unbelief they remain in lip service.

Two years of the HS revealing unto me regardless of how good I was living,I was lost ,away from God.

By this I began to be soooooo burdened and my heart literally felt on fire for shame .

I came to Jesus,broken hearted ashamed and lost. The HS convicted me ; Jesus was my advocate to the Father!

Now how or by whom I was drawn is a minute point,Jesus was and IS the only way to the Father!

Yes I would agree that He knew us before we were born for God is ALL knowing,nothing is his from Him.

No one's heart is more perfect than another's that God would say I CHOSE YOU.

He offers the gift of redemption to all,it's up the individual to chose to repent and believe.

This is the most prescious EVENT of our lives above ALL else.

I don't know all these doctrines of men that abound but the doctrine of the word is TRUTH AND TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!


He convicts of unbelief,he offers relief,but WE MUST CHOSE THIS DAY AND EVERY DAY WHOM WE SHALL SERVE!

It may mean nothing to you...I was chosen by God and I was drawn to Jesus by God.and saved by God....and I will never deny that,like a few others on here.

What you speak of is what you believe......you believe what you want,but don't expect me to agree with it,because I don't.i disagree.

 

[Just_Jo]

All...does not mean everybody.

Do you have family?
Are your family members saved and believe?

If not how much GREAT SORROW it is to carry KNOWING your son ,daughter,mother,dad,sisters ect.ect are going to BURN in hell bc of unbelief.

I'm sorry! (From my heart)
I have loved ones not saved of which I pray daily for a HS revelation of their unbelief that they may chose life by choosing Jesus!

 

[jackrosie]

Do you have family?
Are your family members saved and believe?

If not how much GREAT SORROW it is to carry KNOWING your son ,daughter,mother,dad,sisters ect.ect are going to BURN in hell bc of unbelief.

I'm sorry! (From my heart)
I have loved ones not saved of which I pray daily for a HS revelation of their unbelief that they may chose life by choosing Jesus!

I'm not here to talk about my family..I'm here to spread the word of how God,chose,Drew and saved me.i did nada/ zero and had no,say in the matter.

 

[Bbrdrd]

I'm not here to talk about my family..I'm here to spread the word of how God,chose,Drew and saved me.i did nada/ zero and had no,say in the matter.

So the great gospel you carry is that people should be saved by doing nothing?

 

[jackrosie]

If it is sin, God will call me to repent of it. There is a place for harshness, especially when dealing with the proud.

Until that is so, I will respond as I genuinely react and not paper it over with a false kindness.

I agree,there is a place for harshness,when dealing with proud,superior thinking people.

 

[jackrosie]

So the great gospel you carry is that people should be saved by doing nothing?

Seriously...have you been listening?......I am not repeating myself.my revelation was personal between God and I,...he chose he drew and by his grace I was saved.

 

[cv5]

Consider the "all" of the following passage (what does it mean, here, do you think?):

"14 For the love of Christ compels us, having concluded this, that One has died for all, therefore all have died. 15 And He died for all that those living no longer should live to themselves, but to the One having died for them and having been raised again."
- 2Cor5:14-15


["all have died," but not all are (considered) "those living [G2198]"]

"compels US"
I think the statement is made to Christians, and the dictates are confined thereby.

 

[EleventhHour]

Seriously...have you been listening?......I am not repeating myself.my revelation was personal between God and I,...he chose he drew and by his grace I was saved.

I am not repeating myself.

I am good with that!!