Calvinism and Tulip theology
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If that were true, then nobody would get saved...
I was dead in my sins... and I decided to admit it and quit is by accepting Jesus as my Lord.
The Word is clear that satan is the one blinding the minds of those that do not believe... not people.
The Word is also clear that it's God's will that ALL be saved and that Jesus tasted of death for EVERY person.
God is not witholding what Jesus paid for everyone to have and God did say man is without excuse.
I was dead in my sins... and I decided to admit it and quit is by accepting Jesus as my Lord.
The Word is clear that satan is the one blinding the minds of those that do not believe... not people.
The Word is also clear that it's God's will that ALL be saved and that Jesus tasted of death for EVERY person.
God is not witholding what Jesus paid for everyone to have and God did say man is without excuse.
Then you do not believe the Word of God...
2 Corinthians 4:3,4
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
1 Timothy 2:3,4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
We can clearly see from scripture that it's NOT God's will than anybody be lost and that the Lord's plan of salvation is intended for all.
You are making your argument based on what happens... not from God's Will which is what His Word is, His Will... (that's what God wants for those in Rio Linda)
2 Corinthians 4:3,4
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
1 Timothy 2:3,4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
We can clearly see from scripture that it's NOT God's will than anybody be lost and that the Lord's plan of salvation is intended for all.
You are making your argument based on what happens... not from God's Will which is what His Word is, His Will... (that's what God wants for those in Rio Linda)
And... WHY is it that those who claim God only intended to save a few... are never one of the ones God has chosen to not save???
I've never heard any of calvin's people say "God only saves a few and sadly, I'm one of the ones He decided to not save so... I'm on my way to hell ya'll"
I've never heard any of calvin's people say "God only saves a few and sadly, I'm one of the ones He decided to not save so... I'm on my way to hell ya'll"
Did Jesus talk about few being saved? If so, what's the problem? Is your saying "few" meant to ridicule, defame, and derogate a certain "group?"
Probably because maybe the lost simply don't care or discuss these things?
Why would a saved person testify they are going to hell? Do you get together with God's people for a time of testimonies and celebrate a persons pending damnation?
Probably because maybe the lost simply don't care or discuss these things?
I've never heard any of calvin's people say "God only saves a few and sadly, I'm one of the ones He decided to not save so... I'm on my way to hell ya'll"
Hmmmm.
so if it was hidden to them, it was not offered to them.
In context all TYPES of men. See previous verses
No one has denied that that was God's wish.
He tasted death for all. But it was only effective in those who believe.
It was not God's will that men be lost. But his plan of salvation was only effective for those who truly believed I e 'the elect'
What HAPPENS is God's will. Anything else can only be His wish, not His will. Or do you believe God's will is thwarted?
so if it was hidden to them, it was not offered to them.
In context all TYPES of men. See previous verses
No one has denied that that was God's wish.
He tasted death for all. But it was only effective in those who believe.
It was not God's will that men be lost. But his plan of salvation was only effective for those who truly believed I e 'the elect'
What HAPPENS is God's will. Anything else can only be His wish, not His will. Or do you believe God's will is thwarted?
Now, if it was a person that "God decided to not save" (as the false calvin's people put it)... then they would not be saved now would they???
Think about it... you have people who claim (not based on scripture) that it's God's will that only a few be saved and yet it never applies to any of them.
Why is that???
Think about it... you have people who claim (not based on scripture) that it's God's will that only a few be saved and yet it never applies to any of them.
Why is that???
God did not have anything to do with that... people decide to reject Jesus, so they are limiting themselves to spending eternity in hell.
Sure they were! God provided a way for them to be saved... they allowed the devil to blind their understanding causing them to reject Jesus. They did this, not God.
You obviously do not believe what God says in His Word...
2 Corinthians 4:3,4
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
1 Timothy 2:3,4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
We can clearly see from scripture that it's NOT God's will than anybody be lost and that the Lord's plan of salvation is intended for all.
Sure they were! God provided a way for them to be saved... they allowed the devil to blind their understanding causing them to reject Jesus. They did this, not God.
You obviously do not believe what God says in His Word...
2 Corinthians 4:3,4
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
1 Timothy 2:3,4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
We can clearly see from scripture that it's NOT God's will than anybody be lost and that the Lord's plan of salvation is intended for all.