Calvinism and Tulip theology
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No, Hebrews 2:9 is not theory ... it's God's Word, therfore it is TRUTH.
Calvin and his people have an obvious problem with truth and they are cherry pickers.
2 Corinthians 4:3,4 clearly states why some do not receive salvation.
Yeah, calvin must have been a pit head or a drunkard cause he certainly doesn't know his bible very well and neither do his cult followers.
Calvin and his people have an obvious problem with truth and they are cherry pickers.
2 Corinthians 4:3,4 clearly states why some do not receive salvation.
Yeah, calvin must have been a pit head or a drunkard cause he certainly doesn't know his bible very well and neither do his cult followers.
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God placed everyone under the Law and everyone fell short of His high standard and stand condemned under the Law as sinners worthy of hell.
He sent Jesus to make a new covenant of grace for those who believe.
It comes down to how and why the elect are chosen by God.
They are NOT chosen for any internal merit THEY possess greater than other men or women.
We are chosen because God has a plan for our lives to reveal His glory to the world.
Only those who have and follow God's Holy Spirit are God's born again children, His elect.
It's not our job to judge who does and doesn't belong but to love all men as God loves the world.
He sent Jesus to make a new covenant of grace for those who believe.
It comes down to how and why the elect are chosen by God.
They are NOT chosen for any internal merit THEY possess greater than other men or women.
We are chosen because God has a plan for our lives to reveal His glory to the world.
Only those who have and follow God's Holy Spirit are God's born again children, His elect.
It's not our job to judge who does and doesn't belong but to love all men as God loves the world.
And its truth is that Jesus tasted death for all men, but that all men are not saved.
Calvin like all godly men was seeking truth. He would rightly claim YOU are a cherry picker.
Yes because Satan has blinded them so that they cannot believe,
The whole Bible from beginning to end teaches that God saves the elect, Calvin or no Calvin,
Calvin like all godly men was seeking truth. He would rightly claim YOU are a cherry picker.
Yes because Satan has blinded them so that they cannot believe,
The whole Bible from beginning to end teaches that God saves the elect, Calvin or no Calvin,
Originally Posted by valiant
No Hs atonement was OFFERED to 'the whole world'. It was effectually limited to those who received it.
Nothing ACTUALLY happened to the world. The potential was there for all to be saved. In fact only those whom God chose would be saved as Scripture makes clear because sin had gripped mankind.
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The doctrine of "election" is not a new doctrine as God has chosen certain people since creation. Just a few examples.
Isaiah 41:8,9 "But you, O Isreal, my servant, Jacob, whom i have chosen, your descendants of Abraham, my friend, i took you from the ends of the earth, from its farthest corners i called you. I said "you are my servant; i have chosen you and have not rejected you" God chose Isreal.
Psalm 33:12 "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people He chose for His inheritance." Again isreal was chosen by God.
In the New testament we find God choosing also.
Matt 22:14 "For many are invited, but few are chosen." God chooses whom He saves
John 15:19 "if you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but i have chose you out of the world." Jesus, showing His divinity, shows that He (God) has chosen us to be His.
1 Peter 2:9 "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His wonderful light." This verse show again that those in Christ are chosen by God.
Some will call this "pick and choose" but it isnt as i have only written part of Scripture. To understand these passages read the whole passage before and after to understand the context. If i were to write it all out it would be quite a long post lol.
My main point would be that if we can accept Isreal as being "Gods chosen people" then why cant we believe that even now God still chooses? Did Gods Sovereignty change between the OT and NT? Are we willing to allow God to choose or "elect" in history but not in the present? This is not a question of "free will" "election" or what ever you want to add but a question of "who is Sovereign, us or God?" The "top two" doctrines within reformed theology are the authority of Scripture and the Sovereignty of God. To understand just about everything within Scriptute i believe we must first understand the Sovereignty of God as best we can thru the Word of God by the understanding of the Holy Spirit, not our own understanding.
For all of us in Christ our personal statement of faith should begin with two words "Jesus first".
Isaiah 41:8,9 "But you, O Isreal, my servant, Jacob, whom i have chosen, your descendants of Abraham, my friend, i took you from the ends of the earth, from its farthest corners i called you. I said "you are my servant; i have chosen you and have not rejected you" God chose Isreal.
Psalm 33:12 "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people He chose for His inheritance." Again isreal was chosen by God.
In the New testament we find God choosing also.
Matt 22:14 "For many are invited, but few are chosen." God chooses whom He saves
John 15:19 "if you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but i have chose you out of the world." Jesus, showing His divinity, shows that He (God) has chosen us to be His.
1 Peter 2:9 "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His wonderful light." This verse show again that those in Christ are chosen by God.
Some will call this "pick and choose" but it isnt as i have only written part of Scripture. To understand these passages read the whole passage before and after to understand the context. If i were to write it all out it would be quite a long post lol.
My main point would be that if we can accept Isreal as being "Gods chosen people" then why cant we believe that even now God still chooses? Did Gods Sovereignty change between the OT and NT? Are we willing to allow God to choose or "elect" in history but not in the present? This is not a question of "free will" "election" or what ever you want to add but a question of "who is Sovereign, us or God?" The "top two" doctrines within reformed theology are the authority of Scripture and the Sovereignty of God. To understand just about everything within Scriptute i believe we must first understand the Sovereignty of God as best we can thru the Word of God by the understanding of the Holy Spirit, not our own understanding.
For all of us in Christ our personal statement of faith should begin with two words "Jesus first".
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I believe that is where we disagree.something profound happened to the world at the cross.
We hear of the external signs of the spiritual victory of Christ with the ripped veil.
Satan and 1/3 of the rebellious angels were tossed out of heaven to torture the people on Earth.
The earth is Now experiencing birth pangs.
****Romans 8
. 19For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved.
We hear of the external signs of the spiritual victory of Christ with the ripped veil.
Satan and 1/3 of the rebellious angels were tossed out of heaven to torture the people on Earth.
The earth is Now experiencing birth pangs.
****Romans 8
. 19For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. 23And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved.
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Can you define reformed theology?
I have talked to many members who say they are "reformed" but differ in certain topics. So I was wondering what defines a person's position as reformed?
One person told me that they believe that God elects people to heaven but not to hell. The people's actions do that. God just choses not to save some, which is not the same as arbitrarily created people with the express purpose of condemning them to hell.
I have talked to many members who say they are "reformed" but differ in certain topics. So I was wondering what defines a person's position as reformed?
One person told me that they believe that God elects people to heaven but not to hell. The people's actions do that. God just choses not to save some, which is not the same as arbitrarily created people with the express purpose of condemning them to hell.