Calvinism - Another Heresy

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StanJ

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I hear ya....I post a scripture and then get a mouthy response...makes the Marine in me want to come out and play......
Just because you bought one of their t-shirts doesn't make you one. L
 
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Well...the Bible Discussion Forum is a debate area.

So, we have to expect people here to disagree and debate.
Iron sharpens Iron..and as a machinist (retired) iron put to iron equals sparks......
 
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StanJ

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[h=1]1 Peter 3:15-16[/h][FONT=&quot]But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.[/FONT]
 

posthuman

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It starts with a single step of being born again and remember that it is always the baby that instigates the birthing process not the parent.
oh you chose your parents?

Canada is weird. no walmarts, and now this
 
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oh you chose your parents?

Canada is weird. no walmarts, and now this

LOL...Canada has lot's of Walmarts. The news of their supposed demise has been greatly mis-leading.

I also cannot "un-born" myself as an act of my will either. It turns out I'm not as powerful as has been thought. I can not "un-born" my natural life and I can not "un-born" the new creation in Christ - born from above.
 
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StanJ

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oh you chose your parents?

Canada is weird. no walmarts, and now this
Duh, no the baby chooses when to be born.

We have a lot of Walmarts, and lately a lot of Carl Jr's are springing up all over the place.
 
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GODisLOVE7

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Duh, no the baby chooses when to be born.

We have a lot of Walmarts, and lately a lot of Carl Jr's are springing up all over the place.
I'm currently in Canada right now... Ive noticed the Carl Jr.'s too. But better news was seeing Chipotle. Always have that when Im in the USA and now I can enjoy in Canada! Woot! Lol
 
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StanJ

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I'm currently in Canada right now... Ive noticed the Carl Jr.'s too. But better news was seeing Chipotle. Always have that when Im in the USA and now I can enjoy in Canada! Woot! Lol
Apparently Chipotle is going through some kind of corporate shake-up in the states but I can't say that I've ever been to one of their restaurants.
Do you just live in France or are you French?
 
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GODisLOVE7

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Apparently Chipotle is going through some kind of corporate shake-up in the states but I can't say that I've ever been to one of their restaurants.
Do you just live in France or are you French?
No, I do not live in France. The flag you see is Dutch!
I have been traveling for over 2 years and spend my time between Europe and North America.
 
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StanJ

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No, I do not live in France. The flag you see is Dutch!
I have been traveling for over 2 years and spend my time between Europe and North America.
Sorry, I'm not really good at the striped flags and I get France & Holland mixed up along with Italy & Ireland!
My father-in-law would probably be upset because he's from Holland, but I won't tell him if you don't.
 

posthuman

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Duh, no the baby chooses when to be born.

We have a lot of Walmarts, and lately a lot of Carl Jr's are springing up all over the place.

i've never eaten chipotle. not at the restaurant or actually, anywhere. no idea what it tastes like. but then, i've also never been to Canada. so.

and this:

who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
(John 1:13)​

says it wasn't by our will, but God's.

i don't think you quite understand conception . . . ?
it really isn't up to the foetus, who doesn't exactly exist at the time.
 
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GODisLOVE7

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Sorry, I'm not really good at the striped flags and I get France & Holland mixed up along with Italy & Ireland!
My father-in-law would probably be upset because he's from Holland, but I won't tell him if you don't.
Meh! No reason to apologise! Same colours, just horizontal vs vertical stripes. We all will have one nationality once this world is over and done with. Pretty cool to think about that actually!
 

posthuman

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i don't think you quite understand conception . . . ?
it really isn't up to the foetus, who doesn't exactly exist at the time.
((taking for granted that we're generally agreed on "life begins at conception"))
 
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and this:
who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
(John 1:13)
says it wasn't by our will, but God's.
i don't think you quite understand conception . . . ?
it really isn't up to the foetus, who doesn't exactly exist at the time.
Were you taught to pick scripture out of context or is it something you just learned to do over the years?
[FONT=&quot]The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—[/FONT][FONT=&quot]children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.[/FONT]

Our relationship with our Lord God and savior is a synergistic one not a one-sided one.
 

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Merry Christmas to you all!

"Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and from Jesus Christ, the Father's Son, will be with us in truth and love."
2J 1:3
 

posthuman

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Were you taught to pick scripture out of context or is it something you just learned to do over the years?
The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world.He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

Our relationship with our Lord God and savior is a synergistic one not a one-sided one.
read what you just quoted -- He gave those that received Him the right to be children born not of human decision but of God.

how does that jive with "
it's the foetus' decision" ?

do you imagine that children appear in the womb, the parents having nothing to do with it, and then nature itself having nothing to do with when a child is born, no appointed times or anything like that - but inside there are two buttons, "
be born" and "not be born" and the new life sits there making a decision about which button to push?

hmm what's a C-section in this case? Paul?
that brother didn't make a "
choice" - he was struck down on the road, and given commands.

 
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StanJ

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read what you just quoted -- He gave those that received Him the right to be children born not of human decision but of God.

how does that jive with "
it's the foetus' decision" ?

do you imagine that children appear in the womb, the parents having nothing to do with it, and then nature itself having nothing to do with when a child is born, no appointed times or anything like that - but inside there are two buttons, "
be born" and "not be born" and the new life sits there making a decision about which button to push?

hmm what's a C-section in this case? Paul?
that brother didn't make a "
choice" - he was struck down on the road, and given commands.
It's not me who needs to read what I quoted it is you

"Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God"

If you don't understand these plain words then it's useless discussing them with you.