Calvinism - Another Heresy
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Again I'm sorry but I'm not at a KJVO de-programmer, plus that is not the topic of this thread. Here's a link you can follow and read.
"KJV Only" advocates refuted!
"KJV Only" advocates refuted!
S
I fail to understand why you would make such a bold face lie when you know it's easily refuted. The only thing I can think of is that you really don't know how to study the Greek but you just had to try to make a point no matter how badly you did it. Please place your call again.
You can find the Greek and English side by side at the following link;
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gal+2:16&version=MOUNCE
You can find the Greek and English side by side at the following link;
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gal+2:16&version=MOUNCE
I would think even the heart and spirit ,the essence of life.. In our case even the new heart and new spirit that will never die.. The old heart turned to stone when Adam and Eve did the pleasure of the will of the father of lies as that seen than rather then obey the commandment of God not seen.. It is our old heart that he softens by the water of the word giving us the good ground by which He plants the incorruptible seed and causes the growth. He does all those things according to the mystery of his will . 1Co 2:7
It was a gracious thing He created a conscience in man, How else could we accuse and excuse our selves as its purpose , a personal judgement hall.. Its just that He is greater and know all things. Therefore as new creatures we can have the peace of God that surpasses all understanding according to the mystery of his will . (1Co 2:7)
It was a gracious thing He created a conscience in man, How else could we accuse and excuse our selves as its purpose , a personal judgement hall.. Its just that He is greater and know all things. Therefore as new creatures we can have the peace of God that surpasses all understanding according to the mystery of his will . (1Co 2:7)
I fully understand the Greek word TOU can be translated of or from and both indicate source
I also understand that FAITH is a spiritual GIFT OF or FROM GOD
I also UNDERSTAND that a measure OF FAITH has been dealt to every man
I also UNDERSTAND that my JUSTIFICATION, SALVATION and SANCTIFICATION is based upon the WORK and FAITH OF JESUS....
so...your mouthy response means less than zero pal.......
I also understand that FAITH is a spiritual GIFT OF or FROM GOD
I also UNDERSTAND that a measure OF FAITH has been dealt to every man
I also UNDERSTAND that my JUSTIFICATION, SALVATION and SANCTIFICATION is based upon the WORK and FAITH OF JESUS....
so...your mouthy response means less than zero pal.......
Yes it is the mutual faith of Christ , of God that works in the heart of all Christiabn to both will and do His goof pleasure as a imputed righteousness .
We we can see Christ's faith working in both called the mutual faith coming from one faith .It is used in James in the same way as in Romans using two people to impart a spiritual gift (not seen) that works in both men, edifying God as the gospel is heard by both.
Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you. For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.Rom 1:10
It would seem that spiritual gifts are two fold in that way, as the comforter of both, or us all.
I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.Rom 1:16
From His faith that works in us to His faith, as it is written,the perfect news.
We we can see Christ's faith working in both called the mutual faith coming from one faith .It is used in James in the same way as in Romans using two people to impart a spiritual gift (not seen) that works in both men, edifying God as the gospel is heard by both.
Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you. For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.Rom 1:10
It would seem that spiritual gifts are two fold in that way, as the comforter of both, or us all.
I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.Rom 1:16
From His faith that works in us to His faith, as it is written,the perfect news.
S
The KJV is a translation, it is not the Bible and it even says so on its original title page when it was published in 1611 which apparently you have never read.
http://dohistory.org/archive/doc155/155_title.jpg
http://dohistory.org/archive/doc155/155_title.jpg
S
So why don't you go ahead and highlight the following Greek text and show me exactly what you're talking about? By the way the name is Stan, not pal. I am definitely not your pal.
[δὲ] ὅτι οὐ δικαιοῦται ἄνθρωπος ἐξ ἔργων νόμου ἐὰν μὴ διὰ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, καὶ ἡμεῖς εἰς Χριστὸν Ἰησοῦν ἐπιστεύσαμεν,ἵνα δικαιωθῶμεν ἐκ πίστεως Χριστοῦ καὶ οὐκ ἐξ ἔργων νόμου, ὅτι ἐξ ἔργων νόμου οὐ δικαιωθήσεται πᾶσα σάρξ.
[δὲ] ὅτι οὐ δικαιοῦται ἄνθρωπος ἐξ ἔργων νόμου ἐὰν μὴ διὰ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, καὶ ἡμεῖς εἰς Χριστὸν Ἰησοῦν ἐπιστεύσαμεν,ἵνα δικαιωθῶμεν ἐκ πίστεως Χριστοῦ καὶ οὐκ ἐξ ἔργων νόμου, ὅτι ἐξ ἔργων νόμου οὐ δικαιωθήσεται πᾶσα σάρξ.
S
It's not talking about a mutual faith of Christ, it is talking about the mutual Christian faith which is not the same thing.
If you're going to quote scripture then don't quoted out of context like you've done enough.
[FONT="]First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world. 9 God, whom I serve in my spirit in preaching the gospel of his Son, is my witness how constantly I remember you 10 in my prayers at all times; and I pray that now at last by God’s will the way may be opened for me to come to you.[/FONT]
[FONT="]11 I long to see you so that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to make you strong— 12 that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other’s faith.
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If you're going to quote scripture then don't quoted out of context like you've done enough.
[FONT="]First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world. 9 God, whom I serve in my spirit in preaching the gospel of his Son, is my witness how constantly I remember you 10 in my prayers at all times; and I pray that now at last by God’s will the way may be opened for me to come to you.[/FONT]
[FONT="]11 I long to see you so that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to make you strong— 12 that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other’s faith.
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Your spirit seems to also indicate that you don't have a clue who Jesus is PAL....and anyone can google, cut and past Greek text PAL....so...again your mouthy, hostile remarks and responses mean nothing PAL....
ἐὰν μὴ διὰ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ--->Except through faith JESUS CHRIST..........the OF or FROM is GIVEN because our JUSTIFICATION is not based upon ἐξ ἔργων νόμου by works of LAW......
So, bark up another tree PAL if your going to continue to be HOSTILE and CONTRARY to η λέξη του Θεού
ἐὰν μὴ διὰ πίστεως Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ--->Except through faith JESUS CHRIST..........the OF or FROM is GIVEN because our JUSTIFICATION is not based upon ἐξ ἔργων νόμου by works of LAW......
So, bark up another tree PAL if your going to continue to be HOSTILE and CONTRARY to η λέξη του Θεού
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Now you even resort to misrepresenting the Greek. How dishonest can somebody be? The only one that's getting hostile here is you. I'll wait to see what the moderators have to say about your hostility.
Meanwhile;
gal 2:16 - Interlinear Bible Search
Meanwhile;
gal 2:16 - Interlinear Bible Search
dude!
i don't know why, but that just reminded me --
welcome to CC.
((i forgot to say that))
now about that question no Arminian has been able to answer, that i have --
where do i get the right heart that chooses Christ?
how do i get a spirit that believes in Him?
how can i see Him for who He is, so that i will put my trust in Him?
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Thanks.
By responding positively to how God draws us to the reality of Jesus Christ. Everybody has a spiritual aspect to themselves and if they ignore it or refuse to listen to it then that is on them. In the end every man is judged by what he does know, regardless of whether or not he admits it. Remember the scripture says that every knee will bow and that is not going to be a voluntary thing for many.
By responding positively to how God draws us to the reality of Jesus Christ. Everybody has a spiritual aspect to themselves and if they ignore it or refuse to listen to it then that is on them. In the end every man is judged by what he does know, regardless of whether or not he admits it. Remember the scripture says that every knee will bow and that is not going to be a voluntary thing for many.
