Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

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EleventhHour said:
Instead of being repulsed by the doctrines you defend, stripped down to its bare language without all the intellectualizing and hoop jumping you resort to the typical Calvinist tactic.

Since you do not find the truth of Calvinism repugnant and against GOD... this is what scripture has to say.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:20
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Amen and no doubt...........100 ribbons if possible.......and that is Calvinism to a T!
 
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John146 said:
Yep, and man was never meant to go there, thus, God did not predetermine any one to end up there. It's by man's own choice.
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Amen.........Notice the words missing...man, mankind, men etc....and who it was actually prepared for...

Then also He will say to those on the left, 'Depart from Me, those being cursed, into the eternal fire, having been prepared for the devil and his angels.
 
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She denies truth, believes lies, laughs at the truth and then makes a mockery of the fact she will not be laughing when she stands before God.

There you have it...Calvinism in a nut shell!
 
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The mind governed by the flesh,is the human mind,it doesn’t know God and is alienated from Him...

Before the Lord saves us by his grace we are in darkness and sin and don’t even know it....it’s not until we are saved,that we become children of God...he puts his spirit in us and recognises us as his child,....

Our new life in Christ begins,with the Lord .
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And just so we are clear God does NOT regenerate before belief which is not really clear in your post... why is that?
 
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EleventhHour said:
And just so we are clear God does NOT regenerate before belief which is not really clear in your post... why is that?
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As I have explained many times.....God brought me to salvation......scroll back or read other posts of mine....

You don’t know how God saves his children.
John 3:8
The wind blows wherever it pleases.You hear it’s sound,but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going.So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.
 
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Romans 8:28

And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,who have been called according to his purpose.
 
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Ephesians 1:11

In Him we were also chosen as God’s own,having been predestined according to the plan of Him who works out everything by the counsel of His will.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Do you? No one becomes a child of God BEFORE he becomes a child of God. But that is what you believe.
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I wouldn’t be so bold to say how God saves his children,because I don’t know....but some on here do think they know how God saves his children.
The rest of your post doesn’t make sense.
 
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jackrosie said:
Of course because he testifies to our spirit that we are his child,then we automatically recognise him as our Heavenly Father,almighty God....we have our own personal relationship with Him.
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Where is that written in the Bible? Because what you’re saying is God sidestepped the entire Great Commission with you. You believed in Jesus without ever hearing about Jesus.

That’s pretty extraordinary. It’s also extraordinarily heretical and unbiblical. Unless of course you’re the second coming of Mary that no one knows about. Then my bad.
 
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Duskey said:
Where is that written in the Bible? Because what you’re saying is God sidestepped the entire Great Commission with you. You believed in Jesus without ever hearing about Jesus.

That’s pretty extraordinary. It’s also extraordinarily heretical and unbiblical. Unless of course you’re the second coming of Mary that no one knows about. Then my bad.
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I am not explaining my salvation to you.


Worry about your own salvation......
 
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Mathew 23:9
And do not call anyone on earth “Father” for you have one Father,and he is in heaven.
 
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jackrosie said:
I wouldn’t be so bold to say how God saves his children,because I don’t know....but some on here do think they know how God saves his children.
The rest of your post doesn’t make sense.
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And yet Jesus is quite specific on the subject. How can you be saved if you don't know how God saves lost souls?

The Philippian jailer asked the question and got a direct answer from the apostles.

Ac 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? Read the passage for context and the obvious conclusion.

Amazing what God wrote in the bible for our benefit.

For the cause of Christ.
 
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jackrosie said:
I am not explaining my salvation to you.

Worry about your own salvation......
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There is only one way to be saved.
We all enter through the narrow gate.

That reminds me of a post....

dcontroversal said:
but it is....

Broad and wide is the path that leads to destruction.....for straight and narrow is the path that leads to life

EVEN THIS VERSE INDICATES CHOICE.....ONE MUST CHOSE which path to walk and WHAT GATE TO ENTER!
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And these are your words :unsure:

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I never........had.........a.........choice.......in.........being......born.........again!...
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dcontroversal said:
Amen and no doubt...........100 ribbons if possible.......and that is Calvinism to a T!
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Thanks ... hoping by exposing the ugly truth of Calvinism, maybe shake someone loose from its tentacles..... although we know it is a

looooooooooong shot for sure!!
 
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jackrosie said:
As I have explained many times.....God brought me to salvation......scroll back or read other posts of mine....

You don’t know how God saves his children.
John 3:8
The wind blows wherever it pleases.You hear it’s sound,but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going.So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.
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The context tells Nicodemus don't know what is being born again, Jesus is saying verily, verily, of truth he needs to know how. Further, Jesus said to him are you the teacher and don' t about this things. Perhaps. The implication is that one needs to be born again. Are you saying you need to? Only God knows our heart, but we can know for sure, but as observed, you might been disturbed by the teaching of man. I ask, how did you come to know Christ and his gospel? Had someone told you holding a Calvinistic belief? Read from their articles or what? Thanks
 
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As I have said many times...I have never doubted my faith and never will.

Correct,I never had a say in the matter....one thing for sure.....I think a few of you aren’t understanding.

Because....???....on that note I will leave you all to it..as I don’t have to explain my salvation to anyone.

Thank God I am saved and know it.
You can never take away what The Father gives to His Son......but many have tried...and will never succeed.
 
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notuptome said:
And yet Jesus is quite specific on the subject. How can you be saved if you don't know how God saves lost souls?

The Philippian jailer asked the question and got a direct answer from the apostles.

Ac 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? Read the passage for context and the obvious conclusion.

Amazing what God wrote in the bible for our benefit.

For the cause of Christ.
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Sorry....I was not saved as you have posted..I have already explained how I was saved.....which quite a few of you don’t understand....I can’t help that.....the main thing is I do.
 
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