Can a Christian Have a Devil?

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Blackpowderduelist

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Correct - you know any christians that "live after the flesh and die"? - Romans 8:13
All of humans die. Even the apostles died.
Unless you are referring to spiritual death. Which is a whole different thing.
 

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So "Christ in you the Hope of Glory" (Col 1:27) does not apply to you?

You have much to learn of the difference of Spirit and Soul.
So who sent the Holy Spirit and why? Jesus is living through the Holy Spirit in us.
 
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Are you asking if a Christian can become demon possessed? Then no I do not think it is possible.

Can demonic entities actually terrorize Christians using external methods? I really do think so, yes. Will God remove it from your life? Possibly no.

2 Corinthians 12:7-8
7And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
8For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
 
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So who sent the Holy Spirit and why? Jesus is living through the Holy Spirit in us.
You mean "the Lord who IS THAT SPIRIT"? - II Cor 3:17
Or is there another spirit in the Trinity?
 
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Nope, if the Holy Spirit is living in you, then the devil cant. But He can influence a Christian and He tries it where He can.
Anyone read "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis?
 

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You mean "the Lord who IS THAT SPIRIT"? - II Cor 3:17
Or is there another spirit in the Trinity?
I would say God,father God Jesus and God Holy Spirit , are Spirit. But Jesus send the Holy Spirit insteadt of Himself for to live in us.
And if we say Jesus in you, then Jesus is in us through the Holy Spirit.
 
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I would say God,father God Jesus and God Holy Spirit , are Spirit. But Jesus send the Holy Spirit insteadt of Himself for to live in us.
And if we say Jesus in you, then Jesus is in us through the Holy Spirit.
You'd have to use scripture.
Mine is John 18:14 "I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU" -
Jesus was speaking of the Holy Spirit.
Imagine that!
 
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Are you asking if a Christian can become demon possessed? Then no I do not think it is possible.

Can demonic entities actually terrorize Christians using external methods? I really do think so, yes. Will God remove it from your life? Possibly no.

2 Corinthians 12:7-8
7And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
8For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
You'll have to go deeper, in understanding Rev 12:11 "They overcame him..." -
Who is Him? The Devil.
 
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You'll have to go deeper, in understanding Rev 12:11 "They overcame him..." -
Who is Him? The Devil.
Yes the him is most like the devil. The blood of the Lamb spoils principalities and powers and publicly shames Satan at least in a spiritual way. But if you'll notice Revelation 12:12 it says the devil has wrath that he'll release on the world. This context is building up to what Satan will do on earth during the great tribulation.

But here's a different verse that maybe helps add perspective to what Jesus did:

Colossians 2:13-15
13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
 

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Christians obviously still live after the lusts of the flesh, which is why they are dying like flies like all other mortals - Romans 8:13 makes it more than obvious.
the flesh is not saved.


that will happen at the glorification of the body.
 
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the flesh is not saved.


that will happen at the glorification of the body.
Its not saved if your NOT "being transformed by the renewing of the mind" - Rom 12: 1-2.
Or, "Live after the flesh and die" - Romans 8:13a.
 
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Yes the him is most like the devil. The blood of the Lamb spoils principalities and powers and publicly shames Satan at least in a spiritual way. But if you'll notice Revelation 12:12 it says the devil has wrath that he'll release on the world. This context is building up to what Satan will do on earth during the great tribulation.

But here's a different verse that maybe helps add perspective to what Jesus did:

Colossians 2:13-15
13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
No, "Him" is the Devil - you're own personal Devil. - your Adamic Nature.
 

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Its not saved if your NOT "being transformed by the renewing of the mind" - Rom 12: 1-2.
Or, "Live after the flesh and die" - Romans 8:13a.
your mind being renewed is taking on the Mind of Christ.

The flesh will not accept the mind of Christ because it is a Spiritual mind which is at odds with always.

You battle the flesh everyday.
 
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SophieT

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One devil, many demons as has been noted

Be less demon conscious and more Christ conscious. Demons cannot 'possess' one who is in Christ. They can harass and do quite a bit, but they cannot own a saved person. Possession denotes ownership.