Can a So-Called Cafeteria Christian be a True Believer?

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And teaching Works for Salvation will not allow you to enter into Heaven Spherical.

Again, Salvation is based ONLY on Faith. salvation is NOT based on right thinking about Doctrines.

Again Spherical, you are teaching Works for Salvation.
 

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John 3:16-18
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.[SUP]17 [/SUP]For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. [SUP]18 [/SUP]He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

We see in John 3:16 that those who believe in Him will not perish. I do not see in this verse those who believe and accept all Doctrines will not perish.

Why Spherical are you injecting your man made doctrine into receiving Salvation?

Its not about what you want, its all about what God says and it sounds to me you are trying to sooth your conscience by demanding others follow what you teach.

You can teach all you want about how others are not doing what you demand, but until you resolve your issues you have with God you will never be at peace.
 
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God said " If you are not for Me , you re against me"
 
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Wrong! Paul said " Faith without works is DEAD" That does not mean you earn salvation bywords , But your works show your faith.
 

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What works is James talking about? First he is not talking about works we do to maintain our Faith. Second he is talking about because we have Faith we will show our Faith by feeding the poor and clothing the poor.

Its not keeping our Faith that James is talking about, its showing we already have Faith is what he is teaching.

Too many false Christians, especially the Catholic Church, use these verses to prove we work for our Salvation. We do works because we Love God. We do works because we have Faith from God.
 

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Could it be Spherical that maybe you are a cafeteria Christian? Because you have not defined what Doctrines you believe are true Doctrines. All you have done is talk in circles.
maybe you don't know him very well yet, but this guy is what you might call
"big on circles"


:rolleyes:
 

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A so-called cafeteria Christian is only a partial believer since this person picks and chooses belief based on personal preference
. . .

Pick and choose wisely. :)

which is it?
no pick-and-choose
or 'pick-and-choose wisely' ?


but He chose us, and picked us out of the world and out of darkness, seating us with Him in heavenly places and setting us in His divine light !
did He not do so wisely?
ha! not by human wisdom! hmm!



a servant does not order from a menu. he eats whatever his Master serves him.
 

posthuman

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He (100% man and 100% God)showed us that man could live a sinless life.
i'm not entirely sure how this idea squares with the fact that, as Jesus puts it,
"no one is good, but God alone"​

that's not licentiousness -- that's humbly submitting to the truth, and acknowledging that it is by His mercy that we are saved, and by His single finished work, not our many unfinished ones, that we are sanctified forever in Him.
 
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Thats true.
But what has to be said together with that is - We dont need to obey them perfectly.

Without this note it can get to absolutely wrong implications.
It is true we are just learning, but we do want to strive for perfection.
 

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God said " If you are not for Me , you re against me"
not exactly. common misquote. He actually said:

Whoever is not with me is against me,
and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

(Matthew 12:30)​

and He also said,

Anyone who is not against you is for you.
(Luke 9:50)
 
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maybe you don't know him very well yet, but this guy is what you might call
"big on circles"


:rolleyes:
Do you choose to believe all Christ's divine revelation to man, or, at least, do you choose to not deny any of Christ's divine revelation to man.
 
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Oh oh...we are back to the circle of life again...


[video=youtube;GibiNy4d4gc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GibiNy4d4gc[/video]
 
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All have sinned and come short of the glory of God ===== BUT man does;t have to keep sinning. Why did Jesus tell those he healed " Go and sin no more" Was He just being foolish? NO With the power of the Holy Spirit we can be over-comers!!
Wasn't JESUS born under law,and JESUS had not yet finished the work of the cross when HE told them to go and sin no more.

We all came short of the glory of GOD,So then How would the man go and sin no more?

Will-power?

IMO the man would delight In the law of GOD after the Inward man,but he would see another law In his flesh warring against the law of his mind and bringing him Into captivity to the law of sin which Is In his flesh.
 

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Do you choose to believe all Christ's divine revelation to man, or, at least, do you choose to not deny any of Christ's divine revelation to man.

do you plan on letting us know what you're talking about, since almost a dozen times now you've been directly asked, or just to keep asking nebulous generalities?
will you choose to do what the Bible says to do, or is that not on your personal cafeteria tray?

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.
(Colossians 3:16)

^ because i don't think the message here is "speak always to one another in meaninglessly vague phrases"




anyway no, i don't believe that the Bible teaches the earth is flat, and so of course i don't believe people will go to hell for rejecting that idea. i think you already know that no one accepts that line of thinking. it's not part of the revelation of God - it's a valueless, blatant & completely unsupportable deception that a handful of people are carried away by.
 
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When Jesus said "Be therefore perfect,even as Your Father in heaven is perfect" He meant Blameless. When we are absolutely Repentant and doing our best to resist sin ( living in the influence of the Holy Spirit) than to God WE are Blameless!!!!!!
Can you show scripture that says when JESUS said be perfect like your father In heaven Is perfect he was really saying be blameless?
 
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do you plan on letting us know what you're talking about, since almost a dozen times now you've been directly asked, or just to keep asking nebulous generalities?
will you choose to do what the Bible says to do, or is that not on your personal cafeteria tray?

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.
(Colossians 3:16)

^ because i don't think the message here is "speak always to one another in meaninglessly vague phrases"




anyway no, i don't believe that the Bible teaches the earth is flat, and so of course i don't believe people will go to hell for rejecting that idea. i think you already know that no one accepts that line of thinking. it's not part of the revelation of God - it's a valueless, blatant & completely unsupportable deception that a handful of people are carried away by.
Jesus put you on this earth to embrace His divine revelation to man. You have nothing better to do.
 
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Oh oh...we are back to the circle of life again...


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It depends on where they exist for eternity. The punishment for knowingly denying any of Christ's divine revelation to man is to go to hell. Most people choose to go to hell. If a person chooses to go to hell, do they somehow imagine they will enjoy their extended stay?
 
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No, he didn't say or imply that man can be sinless. What he said is that that we have been given the power and ability to overcome sin. So there is no excuse for living in sin.
Yes GOD made It possible In the spirit,the flesh Is not yet glorified though and here on earth Its still weak.
 
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When we are totally repentant (turned away from) and ding our best to resist sin , then God see's only Christ's robe of righteousness wrapped around us.

Call perfect or blameless I don't care,just so that is what God sees.
 
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Matt. 5 : 48 Jesus to his desciples of which I count myself